Re: Next President of Liberty University
Posted: August 24th, 2020, 10:24 pm
Just look at congress, and elementary, middle and high schools. That's all I can say, without being politically incorrect.
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Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 10:17 pm Right. Because I’m trying to score woke points in a conversation with predominantly ultra conservative white men.You certainly enjoy showing off your Woke Trophies. Your statement is about as credible as ballcoach’s “they must be Baptist”.
FlamesHighontheTide wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 9:41 pm 1. Dr. Voddie Baucham - Dean of the Seminary at Africa Christian University.While I understand the draw of Baucham, his views on childhood discipline are not something I can support leading a school with teaching and family science programs. I admit that’s nit picky, but all-day spanking sessions and his views on daughters aren’t something I can get behind. Quality preacher and theologian even if I don’t agree with everything.
2. Dr. Emir Caner - President of Truett McConnell University.
Sly Fox wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 10:09 pm I would heartily endorse Mark DeMoss rejoining the board. Since he shut down his firm last year, he should be available. We need tough folks willing to hold leadership accountable. And if they have LU credentials all the better.DeMoss, the guy that helps churches (eg The Village Church - Chandler) paper over sex abuse disasters? No thanks.
Whoever lands in the permanent position will have their work cut out for them reworking the upper echelons of the organization.
Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 7:59 pm I’ve always been an advocate of elevating up from the multitude of smaller Christian Colleges and Universities. The talent and leadership are out there.If I recall, that was your position on selecting a basketball coach as well. It's certainly something that should be looked into, but ultimately it comes down to finding that special individual with the necessary combination of skills, experience and Godly character. IMHO he/she could come from any one of a variety of backgrounds.
Just John wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 11:36 pm I understand Mark is in very poor health. I was told he had cancer but that was close to a year ago.He has recovered, and is doing well. I had some interactions with Mark when he was Doc's right hand man at a very young age. He is an impressive individual, and loves Liberty. While I know there are some here who would disagree strenuously, I think he could make a great President, but that does not mean he would be the best choice. I most certainly would like to see him back on the board and actively involved in the process of recovery from this mess. He has a very special skill set, and having shut down his business, should have time to put in the work.
olldflame wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 7:53 amThe thing I like about Mark is that he seems to be the only board member who pushed back against JJ games. He saw issues back in 2015-16 and said something! No one else on the board that I am aware of had the guts to do that. At this point I don't trust the current board members. They were at the very least complacent with JJ and they lack the guts to do the right thing. Mark's history of integrity speaks volumes about his character. I can get behind that kind of leadership.Just John wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 11:36 pm I understand Mark is in very poor health. I was told he had cancer but that was close to a year ago.He has recovered, and is doing well. I had some interactions with Mark when he was Doc's right hand man at a very young age. He is an impressive individual, and loves Liberty. While I know there are some here who would disagree strenuously, I think he could make a great President, but that does not mean he would be the best choice. I most certainly would like to see him back on the board and actively involved in the process of recovery from this mess. He has a very special skill set, and having shut down his business, should have time to put in the work.
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ballcoach15 wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 8:21 am I look can't wait to see what other names get tossed about on this board in reference to next president. (similar to when we were waiting on a new football coach). I still laugh at some of those.Mitt Romney? We could be BYU East?
olldflame wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 7:33 amIt was. But I can’t argue with the success that RMK has brought. He was a unique hirePurple Haize wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 7:59 pm I’ve always been an advocate of elevating up from the multitude of smaller Christian Colleges and Universities. The talent and leadership are out there.If I recall, that was your position on selecting a basketball coach as well. It's certainly something that should be looked into, but ultimately it comes down to finding that special individual with the necessary combination of skills, experience and Godly character. IMHO he/she could come from any one of a variety of backgrounds.
VarsityLu wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 8:26 amYeah, that is part of the reason he appeals to me as well. I don't know if he would be a good fit for president but there should be a place for him back on the board.olldflame wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 7:53 amThe thing I like about Mark is that he seems to be the only board member who pushed back against JJ games. He saw issues back in 2015-16 and said something! No one else on the board that I am aware of had the guts to do that. At this point I don't trust the current board members. They were at the very least complacent with JJ and they lack the guts to do the right thing. Mark's history of integrity speaks volumes about his character. I can get behind that kind of leadership.Just John wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 11:36 pm I understand Mark is in very poor health. I was told he had cancer but that was close to a year ago.He has recovered, and is doing well. I had some interactions with Mark when he was Doc's right hand man at a very young age. He is an impressive individual, and loves Liberty. While I know there are some here who would disagree strenuously, I think he could make a great President, but that does not mean he would be the best choice. I most certainly would like to see him back on the board and actively involved in the process of recovery from this mess. He has a very special skill set, and having shut down his business, should have time to put in the work.
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Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 10:35 pmJC is proud of his 'wokeness" precisely because of the makeup of the board, "predominately ultra conservative white men" which in itself is not factual. It is all about getting attention, shock value, he needs/craves it. It is pretty obvious. It is always about race and gender first, then qualifications.Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 10:17 pm Right. Because I’m trying to score woke points in a conversation with predominantly ultra conservative white men.You certainly enjoy showing off your Woke Trophies. Your statement is about as credible as ballcoach’s “they must be Baptist”.
I don’t care what color or gender they are. I do agree that LU needs a less autocratic leader
Sly Fox wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 8:46 am I haven't talked to Mark in years. A decade ago he offered me a job at his firm and we used to be in touch regularly for a period of time. He has recovered from his cancer treatments at last check. He would make a strong board member with a track record of holding adminstrators accountable.This can not be emphasized enough and it is one of the main reasons I am so emotionally invested in this. This is far greater than hiring a coach. I do think the board has finally seen the light, it may have been a little late but all I can do is have faith that they are turning to God to lead them in this very, very tough decision.
Gerb - I feel you on your concerns. You will not likely find a more passionate person on this board than me about rooting out sexual abuse in the church. We as Evangelicals have come a long way in acknowledging the horrific nature of this sin and the impact on the victims and the witness of the church to the lost. My grandfather who passed away a few years ago there in Lynchburg bravely exposed covered up sin at the largest church in America back in the '80s. It cost him friendships, financial support and resulted in death threats for years. Interestingly enough the only Christian leader who was willing to stand by grandfather through this time was Doc. I have counseled churches through staff sex scandals over the years and have been consistent in shedding light on the darkness and supporting the victims the way Scripture demands us.
This only makes the events of the past few days all the more ironic and sad. Doc spent his entire life in full recognition of what a scandal like this would do to the university and his ministry. Apparently his eldest wasn't paying close enough attention.
Whatisthetruth wrote:A couple of other trustees pushed back and were 'retired' behind the scenes. No many stood up.Who?
flameshaw wrote: ↑August 25th, 2020, 8:44 amMy comment was about this message board, not the Board of Trustees. We have a diverse BoT which is a good thing.Purple Haize wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 10:35 pmJC is proud of his 'wokeness" precisely because of the makeup of the board, "predominately ultra conservative white men" which in itself is not factual. It is all about getting attention, shock value, he needs/craves it. It is pretty obvious. It is always about race and gender first, then qualifications.Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 10:17 pm Right. Because I’m trying to score woke points in a conversation with predominantly ultra conservative white men.You certainly enjoy showing off your Woke Trophies. Your statement is about as credible as ballcoach’s “they must be Baptist”.
I don’t care what color or gender they are. I do agree that LU needs a less autocratic leader
Class of 20Something wrote: ↑August 24th, 2020, 6:27 pm Not backing down.This guy looks like a good fit. Hope he's at least contacted.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dondi_E._Costin
Poach him.
LUconn wrote:I can't remember who off the top of my head, but I am fairly certain we discussed it here on the forum. Those of us who saw the writing on the wall with Jr's leadership saw it as just another red flag of many.Whatisthetruth wrote:A couple of other trustees pushed back and were 'retired' behind the scenes. No many stood up.Who?