[paradox]

Affirmative. Yes. Yup.

[bluedevilflame]

Oh the humanity! How dare Liberty uphold Judeo-Christian values. They even defend the Western tradition. Imagine that. They have strayed so far from their original intention. So sad. I feel for ya bruh. I really really do.

Does Falkirk actually do that?

They're really good at spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories, it's an absolute embarrassment.

[TH Spangler]

Oh the humanity! How dare Liberty uphold Judeo-Christian values. They even defend the Western tradition. Imagine that. They have strayed so far from their original intention. So sad. I feel for ya bruh. I really really do.

Does Falkirk actually do that?

They're really good at spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories, it's an absolute embarrassment.

Sounds like you're talking about msnbc and cnn

[paradox]

Either that...or he's just repeating their boring talking points.

[stokesjokes]

You guys are so predictable

[paradox]

As if there can be only one perspective shared by all. And nothing tolerated outside of pre-approved consensus thinking. If that's your thing, then do your thing. But that's not for everyone.

[ATrain]

Does Falkirk actually do that?

They're really good at spreading disinformation and conspiracy theories, it's an absolute embarrassment.

Sounds like you're talking about msnbc and cnn

Maybe Falkirk, CNN, and MSNBC ALL do it

[paradox]

That's true. But there is a distinct difference between the one excess that relentlessly deceives, while the other excess overreacts to the deception.

[thepostman]

One is deceptive and divisive while the other is deceptive and divisive using the name of Christ. So huge difference. I agree

[paradox]

The distinction would be between out and out deception with an agenda to control versus a response that is sometimes an overreaction. Excess is never good and should be avoided. But the answer is never timidity or servility. On the contrary, we should avoid all excess, stay focused, and fight the fight for truth.

[stokesjokes]

The distinction is deception I like and agree with vs. deception I don’t. Stop trying to excuse it because it’s from your camp. If it’s unacceptable for MSNBC or CNN, it should be a million times more unacceptable when it’s coming from people claiming the name of Christ.

[paradox]

You obviously don't understand what's being said here. There's no reason to repeat what's been stated multiple times. This was a call to commit to a struggle for the truth, and has nothing to do with committing to an ideology. That's why you can't see beyond it.

[stokesjokes]

Ok, then we should shut down Falkirk. Glad you came around

[paradox]

Exactly. And we should never ever ever oppose the left. First, because they don't really exist, and second because it's not very nice. And we should not only be nice, but very nice. Ideally, very very nice.

Now, there are exceptions, and we'd really have to ask someone like Swallow Prior to help us out here. Maybe, give Beth Moore a holler. It may have not been very nice to condemn a brother for "heaping coals of shame." But again, there are exceptions, and her first name is...Karen. We should listen to the Karens. They know when to be nice and when to be not nice.

Now, onward, Hugh Freeze Power Thread!

[JK37]

I’ve been listening/reading all this with intrigue. Seems the common thread is the extremes assumed of one side by the other.

There can be a time for timidity. Jesus Christ even went so far as to call it turning the other cheek - a concept even more unthinkable to His audience then as it still seems today.

Why ruin our testimony for Christ under the guise of “fighting” for His truth? We can’t change the hearts and minds of men; that’s the Holy Spirit’s job. We too often just get in the way. I doubt very seriously that being used as the Lord’s vessel for truth involves as much “fighting” as we employ.

[paradox]

The Apostle tells Timothy that God does not give us the spirit of timidity, cowardice, fear. The literary imagery is one who flees battle.

Turning the other cheek is not about weakness, but strength. The strength that comes from God to overcome flawed passions like human revenge.

Different people have different callings. Some lean left, some lean right. Stay true to your calling and make the most of what God puts in your path. Be courageous, and avoid excess.

[Jonathan Carone]

You can stand up for things without being inflammatory, demeaning, or rude. Just because "they" act that way is no reason for us to do the same thing. Absolutely stand up for your beliefs, but don't lose your witness in the process. What will make us different is how we speak truth in a way that is pointing towards something, calling people to something more. We can do that without making fun of or degrading those who believe opposite us.

[Just John]

Matthew 10:16 (NLT)

“Look, I am sending you out as sheep among wolves. So be as shrewd as snakes and harmless as doves."

We are in a hostile world. We need to be wise to what is going on around us. We shouldn't be timid. God has told us He hasn't given us a spirit of fear. At the same time, our motives and our actions on how we navigate in this hostile world should be pure and innocent. That's the "dove" part.

We aren't going to insult many people into changing their minds. And Falkirk, with a "healthy" dose of disinformation and weak representatives are neither doves nor serpents.

[paradox]

Blatant and intentional deception is completely different from the allegation of it or the mere perception of it.

[rogers3]

Blatant and intentional deception is completely different from the allegation of it or the mere perception of it.

So, do you work for Falkirk? You seem to staunchly defend it if I read you right.

[paradox]

I just can't get on board with condemning everybody over there. I may only agree with less than half of what they're about right now. But it has potential. There's definitely something to work with there. Name change would be good too. That's really all it is.

[Just John]

I just can't get on board with condemning everybody over there. I may only agree with less than half of what they're about right now. But it has potential. There's definitely something to work with there. Name change would be good too. That's really all it is.

I agree, it has potential. Change the name and get a whole new roster of legit scholars to do legit work instead of cheerleaders and grifters. Seb Gorka? Seriously?

[paradox]

It would seem that the better scholars would be at Stanford and Pepperdine right now. Not so sure that Liberty is even a landing spot for scholars. It would be welcome, but seems unlikely. That doesn't mean that there can't be something here that can be a positive influence--while defending Judeo-Christian values.

[Jonathan Carone]

If you read the release about the Center for Law & Government, it has a charter to do the things everyone here is asking for. They’ve done everything from hosting debates to bringing students to DC a couple times each year to meet public officials, media personalities, and other policy influencers in Washington. All their events are non-partisan. The student symposia in DC have had speakers from both parties. We have also participated jointly with Hampton University over the past two years, allowing them to invite speakers they would like to hear from and exposing our students to perspectives they won't encounter in the Liberty bubble.

This year, the Journal for Statesmanship and Public Policy is holding a virtual conference for LU students, faculty and alumni to submit and present scholarship, and host panels for discussion on political and cultural issues.

The Center for Law & Government and the Journal for Statesmanship and Public Policy are both hosted in our School of Government. The Falkirk Center is a vanity project for Jerry, Jr. and Charlie Kirk and offers no scholarly value to students, faculty or alumni.

The School of Government has the charter and the track record, and rather than investing is a vanity project that wouldn't know what non-partisan meant if you hit them in the face with the dictionary opened to the definition, we should continue to invest in something substantive that we are already doing.

[chris leedlelee]

I just can't get on board with condemning everybody over there. I may only agree with less than half of what they're about right now. But it has potential. There's definitely something to work with there. Name change would be good too. That's really all it is.

I feel as if this is basically the median opinion on here.