[VAGolf]

Prayers for all those who are injured. But how on earth do you confuse the gas for the brake pedal, long enough to do this?

http://www.wset.com/story/26371070/car- ... restaurant

[PAmedic]

happens all the time. esp with a rapidly increasing geriatric population (%) which remains pretty darn active.

needless to say we put them in for a re-test when something like this happens.

[Sly Fox]

Reaction time decreases rapidly once you hit your 70s.

[jcmanson]

This happened to my grandparents several years back. My grandfather accidentally hit the gas instead of the brakes and slammed into a Safeway. He eventually died from his injuries.

[alabama24]

how on earth do you confuse the gas for the brake pedal, long enough to do this?

In the Snooze and Advance, he is quoted as saying that he had a medical condition which caused him to confuse the two... In which case, his "medical condition" should prevent him from driving.

[Yacht Rock]

So I feel if an individual is aware enough that they have a condition causing them to make bad choices like that, then they are culpable for what happened. I mean, what is the practical difference between someone who knowingly gets behind the wheel, aware of issues that impair their driving and someone who knowingly gets behind the wheel while after knocking back a dozen Miller Lites (the champagne of beer)?

I suppose the only real difference is the legal limit. While there are defined limits of intoxication the level at which someone is unfit to drive may be hazy and subjective.

[adam42381]

So I feel if an individual is aware enough that they have a condition causing them to make bad choices like that, then they are culpable for what happened. I mean, what is the practical difference between someone who knowingly gets behind the wheel, aware of issues that impair their driving and someone who knowingly gets behind the wheel while after knocking back a dozen Miller Lites (the champagne of beer)?

I suppose the only real difference is the legal limit. While there are defined limits of intoxication the level at which someone is unfit to drive may be hazy and subjective.

Wrong beer.

[Yacht Rock]

I don't know. I'm a Newcastle Brown Ale man myself.

[VAGolf]

I don't know. I'm a Newcastle Brown Ale man myself.

Good man. That's an excellent choice.

[adam42381]

I don't know. I'm a Newcastle Brown Ale man myself.

Good man. That's an excellent choice.

Maybe a it's a good introduction if you're leaving the world of cheap fizzy lagers, but it's not a good example of the style. Samuel Smith's Nut Brown would be a good start if you're looking for an English brown ale. If you like that, there are tons of American craft breweries that make good English-style browns.

[Yacht Rock]

Lol, well at my age I've tried many varieties. Sam Adams isn't bad but I still go back to Newcastle. Just preference I suppose.

[ATrain]

I willl admit, Temptress is perhaps the best craft stout I've had...it's a craft beer here in Texas. Though my favorite craft beer remains Young Veterans Pineapple Grenade.

Oh yeah, and I wish my grandparents wouldn't drive.

[Purple Haize]

Being from the Midwest, I'm a Cider (not Jim) fan

[BJWilliams]

My dad's mom drove up into her late 60s before advancing Parkinson's left her incapable of even the most basic things. I thiknk if you have full use of your physical and mental faculties at 70 or 80 or even 90..and you can pass a driving test, I have no problem with a senior citizen driving