A Sea Of Red

Has anyone else seen this. Heartbreaking. I am a big fan of Scott Ray. http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0909/657718.html

Was he employed at LU when he commited his first offenses in 2005?

flamesbball84 wrote:Was he employed at LU when he commited his first offenses in 2005?

If he wasn't then, he started shortly after.

Very sad news...I always really liked Scotty

wow. didnt expect this. VERY sad news. always thought he was a good guy.
ironic the news breaks on the same night Caner was preaching about hypocrisy...

I wouldn't be so quick to call him a hypocrite.

true... and im not necessarily saying he is. Caner said tonight repeatedly "just because someone is exposed to have sinned publically doesn't make him a hypocrite"

just that was interesting or rather because of this situation caner kept stressing that without directly referencing it.

I saw Johnnie Moore being interview today and wondered what was happening. Scott spoke on my hall like twice a year when i used to live on campus, and I always liked him. I dont think he ever preached condemnation on drug use or anything like that, he always seemed to be big into the grace God gave, so I really dont think you can call him a hypocrite. Hopefully this all works out for the best, he always seemed like a great guy.

Hydrocodone I can understand, but Tramadol I don't believe is a narcotic. At least it isn't supposed to be addictive.

yeah, I pulled my Achilles tendon and they gave me Tramadol for it. The doc said it wasn't a narcotic, but it was just as powerful. I don't know if its addictive or not. But at least its not a narcotic...

Purple Haize wrote:Hydrocodone I can understand, but Tramadol I don't believe is a narcotic. At least it isn't supposed to be addictive.

I was given Hydrocodone after my knee surgery in 2005...I had to have a friend drive me home after the surgery. and I probably couldnt remember anything that happened over the next couple days as I was taking it. Still a horrible situation.

SuperJon wrote:I wouldn't be so quick to call him a hypocrite.

Agreed. From what I understand he was very upfront with LU re: his prior history when he was hired. Painkiller addiction is a very difficult thing to fight as I have some friends that have been there. It's not something you really ever put down b/c all it takes is one and you're right back to square one. Definitely praying for him and his wife.

The thing about this story is that he came clean earlier. To me that says he was trying to change and just had a "relapse". I am not sure if he was in trouble with the law the first time, and the article stated that they didnt know where he was and he may have checked into rehab. Again, to me that says he is facing his problem b/c he knows it is a problem, not just b/c he got caught.
Having just had back surgery my doctor put me on a oxycotin and oxycodone cocktail. I was only on them for about a month, it was a B*** getting off of them. I can see how easy it would be to stay on them.

I also know some people who have struggled with painkiller addiction, and can attest to how powerful a hold it can have. Following my motorcycle accident in 99, I took oxycodone. I switched to something less addictive as soon as possible, and had no problems, and was pretty coherant even when I was taking it, so I guess I was blessed. What I can say is that the stuff works! They started me off on morphine, but just a couple of days after an operation that involved a foot long incision (to the bone) and insertion of multiple metal plates and screws, I essentally had no pain with oxycodone. Pretty amazing when you think about it.

Wow. Never saw that coming. That makes mae sad. I am praying for him and his family and that everything will get straightened out.

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0909/659267.html

WSET wrote:LU Official Facing Additional Charges
posted 09/14/09 6:53 pm

Campbell Co., Va - New charges have been filed against Liberty University (web) 's Director of Convocation.

A Grand Jury indicted Scott Ray Monday on four counts of burglary, and one count of possession of a schedule two controlled substance

A former Liberty University official is learning how much time he'll spend in jail for stealing a prescription painkiller.

Scott Alan Ray was sentenced Wednesday afternoon to 18 months in prison.

Scott gets his sentance. Hope he can find the help he needs!

LINK HERE.

Scott has been telling his story through a blog. He hasn't once made an excuse or claimed he got anything more than what he deserved. He starts from the very beginning when he was a kid and walks through his life. It's a great, great story of how easy it is to get off course and do things you know that you shouldn't be. If you start reading, scroll back to the very first post and start there and read through it all.

From The Inside...

Bump

3rd strike?

http://www.wset.com/story/22513064/form ... -break-ins

Addiction is a difficult thing.

One day this guy is going to pick on a wrong home and get shot.

He may not ever get a chance again. Addiction indeed is brutal.

Sly Fox wrote:He may not ever get a chance again. Addiction indeed is brutal.

I know it probably isn't the case but I've always thought addiction to prescription meds is more difficult to overcome than 'illegal' drugs. To say this can't happen here, that makes 2 people in the basketball department with RX drug problems. It can happen here, to anyone at any time.

I agree completely. No one takes prescription drugs knowing they will become addicted. And we all take prescription drugs from time to time for legitimate reasons.

Purple Haize wrote:I know it probably isn't the case but I've always thought addiction to prescription meds is more difficult to overcome than 'illegal' drugs.

Chris Herren agrees. Got to attend one of his talks once, he took everything imaginable and said Oxycontin was the worst he ever took.