[stokesjokes]

Add Scott Lamb and Jerry Prevo to the “need to go” list.

Might as well burn it down and start from scratch.

[flameshaw]

The fact that we pulled Piper but are keeping Cruz shows me everything we're doing right now is just window dressing on a pile of crap.

Kinda funny, since most here don't believe with Piper's theology at all. But because he isn't going to vote for Trump, it is ok to take his side on this subject.
This stuff has been going on for many years at LU. It is not limited to convocation speakers either.

[stokesjokes]

It’s not about taking sides. Piper’s theology is within the big tent of orthodox Christian theology, it even falls within the bounds of the smaller tent of evangelical theology. He shouldn’t be “cancelled” because he’s not voting the same way as the university leaders.

If this stuff is and has been going on, it should stop. Now is the time, especially given the current transition, to make these necessary operational changes.

[Purple Haize]

Who is John Piper ?

Peter's son. He got out of the pepper business and became a preacher.

Roddy’s brother

[ballcoach15]

Rowdy Roddy

[flameshaw]

It’s not about taking sides. Piper’s theology is within the big tent of orthodox Christian theology, it even falls within the bounds of the smaller tent of evangelical theology. He shouldn’t be “cancelled” because he’s not voting the same way as the university leaders.

If this stuff is and has been going on, it should stop. Now is the time, especially given the current transition, to make these necessary operational changes.

I don't know enough particulars to say for certain he was cancelled because of his Trump message. But for the sake of this conversation, let's stipulate that that was 100% the reason.
There has been vote counting going on up there for many, many years. I do know the particulars of some of that. I also know some of the particulars about many people being silenced for their theological view, even though it falls within a small sector of the Evangelical world.
I believe the school was in much better spiritual condition, when our theological views were much more narrow than today. Unfortunately, that narrowness also went hand in hand with the legalistic, cultural, views held at that time as well.
Somewhere there has to be a middle.
Finally, I am not sure that the leaders of LU are as overtly pro-Trump, as when Jr. ruled with an iron fist. I know a lot of them did not support Jr's Republican, drinking, buddy for the 5th district of VA, nomination. I also know that he had a list of the ones that didn't and how much they contributed to the opponents campaign. (Public knowledge, but he had it close at hand.
Yes, we need to be careful who/why we ask someone to speak at convocation. There shouldn't necessarily be a litmus test. But, whatever path they choose to go down, it should be consistent.

[Jonathan Carone]

The fact that we pulled Piper but are keeping Cruz shows me everything we're doing right now is just window dressing on a pile of crap.

Kinda funny, since most here don't believe with Piper's theology at all. But because he isn't going to vote for Trump, it is ok to take his side on this subject.
This stuff has been going on for many years at LU. It is not limited to convocation speakers either.

Piper is one of the leading theologians of our time. While I don’t agree with him on everything, he is absolutely a voice worth listening to and exposing our current students to.

[Liberty22]

Add Scott Lamb and Jerry Prevo to the “need to go” list.

Might as well burn it down and start from scratch.

One good thing about Prevo is that he knew Falwell Sr very well. He was around in the beginning. He knew and likely agreed with the vision to compete at the highest levels of collegiate sports. That likely means prevo would continue to pour money into Athletics. With an outside hire, which will eventually happen anyway, could mean the end of massive athletics funding. I’m not arguing athletics over Christ, simply stating it’s possible to be Biblically accurate, Christ centered education and still compete at highest levels and put money towards that. We just need the right person(s).

[ballcoach15]

Add Scott Lamb and Jerry Prevo to the “need to go” list.

Might as well burn it down and start from scratch.

One good thing about Prevo is that he knew Falwell Sr very well. He was around in the beginning. He knew and likely agreed with the vision to compete at the highest levels of collegiate sports. That likely means prevo would continue to pour money into Athletics. With an outside hire, which will eventually happen anyway, could mean the end of massive athletics funding. I’m not arguing athletics over Christ, simply stating it’s possible to be Biblically accurate, Christ centered education and still compete at highest levels and put money towards that. We just need the right person(s).

Excellent post Liberty 22. Probably best post in this entire thread.

[Just John]

Let him without sin , cast the first stone

Go and sin no more

Well hey, just bring Jr. back then.

[rogers3]

Let him without sin , cast the first stone

Go and sin no more

Says our local Pharisee.

[TH Spangler]

Add Scott Lamb and Jerry Prevo to the “need to go” list.

Might as well burn it down and start from scratch.

One good thing about Prevo is that he knew Falwell Sr very well. He was around in the beginning. He knew and likely agreed with the vision to compete at the highest levels of collegiate sports. That likely means prevo would continue to pour money into Athletics. With an outside hire, which will eventually happen anyway, could mean the end of massive athletics funding. I’m not arguing athletics over Christ, simply stating it’s possible to be Biblically accurate, Christ centered education and still compete at highest levels and put money towards that. We just need the right person(s).

Sports is a healthy, positive way to engage culture. If its Christian it should be better.

Stay away from hollywood and fashion

[paradox]

Big Jerry was a big Yankee fan. Mickey Mantle is to blame. Also, he was known to attend post-season games in the Bronx, mixed in that sea of humanity. Bet ya didn't know that.

[ballcoach15]

I heard of a new name for possible president this morning:

LTC (Ret) Oliver North

[Purple Haize]

I heard of a new name for possible president this morning:

LTC (Ret) Oliver North

Voices in your head don’t count as #sources

[flameshaw]

I heard of a new name for possible president this morning:

LTC (Ret) Oliver North

Too old.

[stokesjokes]

Isn’t he a war criminal?

[Purple Haize]

Isn’t he a war criminal?

No

[stokesjokes]

Ok, glad we cleared that up

[Jonathan Carone]

He’s nowhere near qualified for the position given what the board has said they’re looking for.

[ballah09]

Pence wants to run Liberty so he can stay in the spot light for 2024. Nothing like being used for political purpose. Our bots will probably go with it too.

paywall
https://www.businessinsider.com/pence-2 ... ff-2020-11

[stokesjokes]

Isn’t he Catholic?

[ballcoach15]

Isn’t he Catholic?

According to my sources, he was raised Catholic, but he isn't now.

[ballah09]

sources lol. you can just look it up online.

[ballcoach15]

Very true, but I was busy at work, and received a message via Facebook on my telephone, informing me that Pence may be a candidate, Then it was relayed to me as to his religion. But as Dr. Towns once said in his Pastor's Bible Class, "Google is my friend"