[ReKlef]

I had Prof Moon too.

Maybe, just maybe, he might have had an inappropriate consensual relationship with a student. I would highly doubt it, but maybe.

But to do what they are accusing him of??? A man of his intelligence and character would never do such a thing unless he literally lost his mind or developed some kind of major personal problems that made him devalue his career.

Is anyone currently in one of the classes he was teaching this semester? If so, how was he acting throughout the semester?

[matshark]

A man of his intelligence and character would never do such a thing unless he literally lost his mind or developed some kind of major personal problems that made him devalue his career.

Hmm, maybe you should ask Ed Hindson about that...

[rueful]

not that many people know about that. But do you think Liberty will ever attepmt to restore moon the way they did hindson?

[matshark]

not that many people know about that. But do you think Liberty will ever attepmt to restore moon the way they did hindson?

nope. criminal charges make it kind of hard to do that. even if he's found innocent, the stigma is there.

[Rockthejungle]

I was really surprised when I first heard about this because from what I could tell Prof Moon was a very nice teacher respected by a lot of students. This seems pretty out of character

OK, here is where we list the names of all the LU profs we would NOT be surprised to hear had done something like this!

Of course it seems out of charactor for someone in that position; Christian university or not. It just proves things aren't always what they appear, and we need to place our trust in God, not in men.

While they may not have broken any laws, people in much higher positions with the school have had their own "failings" Thank God for forgiveness and redemption.

I could bring up names from the 70's who worked at the school and TRBC who got in trouble for this very thing.
We know that Satan is in full attack mode at Liberty.

[ReKlef]

A man of his intelligence and character would never do such a thing unless he literally lost his mind or developed some kind of major personal problems that made him devalue his career.

Hmm, maybe you should ask Ed Hindson about that...

Based on your post, I'm assuming that you are saying that Hindson did something as bad as what they are accusing Moon of...?

[ATrain]

A man of his intelligence and character would never do such a thing unless he literally lost his mind or developed some kind of major personal problems that made him devalue his career.

Hmm, maybe you should ask Ed Hindson about that...

Based on your post, I'm assuming that you are saying that Hindson did something as bad as what they are accusing Moon of...?

Not quite as bad, b/c I think that incident was consenual and she wasn't a student...at least that was my understanding of that incident.

[matshark]

it was consensual, but from what i understand it was a student. either way, the point is that anyone can take a fall - no matter what we believe their character to be.

[ReKlef]

it was consensual, but from what i understand it was a student. either way, the point is that anyone can take a fall - no matter what we believe their character to be.

Okay, that would make a little more sense.

As I said in my original post, I could possibly, just possibly, see Moon doing something consensual as there is not a near certainty that something like that would come to light. But to do what they are accusing him of?

[matshark]

accusing him of object sexual penetration by force.

i mean, that's basically saying "something entered her non-consensually."

i think there are more than a few details that are not being released.

apparently he allegedly had given her massages at her home previously. and if she is comfortable enough to take a test then lay down in his office while he gives her a massage and then go to SLEEP, well, obviously there is a bit of a relationship there that hasn't been brought forth.

i'm not sure i buy the charges against him. it's very possible its a case of some chick who thought it would be fun/naughty to get involved with a teacher, then maybe got mad or jealous or something and decided to get even. it's certainly not a case of the evil math teacher having a single opportunity to take advantage of a poor little college student. that much is certain.

[LUconn]

I don't think you can say that's certain. Nobody knows what happened at this point.

[matshark]

I don't think you can say that's certain. Nobody knows what happened at this point.

"Prosecutors say it happened when a 21-year-old student came to Moon's office last Tuesday to do classwork. The prosecutor says the victim was in pain, so she got on the floor and let Moon give her a massage. That's when she says she fell asleep, and woke up to find him touching her inappropriately."

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0409/617314.html


"Wetzel said prosecutors’ evidence shows Moon had previously given the student massages at her home on campus."

http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/news/loc ... ond/15488/

[JDUB]

I think the details aren't out bc they want to protect the innocent girl. She's been through enough, I'm sure she doesn't want embarressing details coming out about it.

Bottom line: he is guilty, and what has been released sounded sketchy but the whole story makes more sense with the details filled in.

[LUconn]

Case closed. No need for a trial folks, JDUB is privy to all the details because he was apparently in the room.

[SuperJon]

Case closed. No need for a trial folks, JDUB is privy to all the details because he was apparently in the room.

Haha. The whole story isn't gonna come out because we're at Liberty but I'm like a lot of you guys, this sounds a little too strange to consider the girl completely innocent. She's at least guilty of putting herself in a stupid situation on multiple occasions.

[jinxy]

hahahaha, wow how could you say she is completely innocent, the only thing that is certain is that we dont know enough to know anything for sure.

[matshark]

Case closed. No need for a trial folks, JDUB is privy to all the details because he was apparently in the room.

Haha. The whole story isn't gonna come out because we're at Liberty but I'm like a lot of you guys, this sounds a little too strange to consider the girl completely innocent. She's at least guilty of putting herself in a stupid situation on multiple occasions.

Man, SJ is on a ROLL! I find myself agreeing with almost everything he's said in the past couple days. What's the world COMING to?!?!?!?!

[JDUB]

She did put herself in a stupid position, I'm not saying she didn't do that. But that is no excuse, as a pastor and professor, he should not have allowed that to happen, and now that he did this it seems that his career is over.

I'm not trying to say that the girl didn't make a stupid decision, because she did, but that doesn't open the door to accuse her of making stuff up, and that doesn't make what happened ok.

[ReKlef]

She did put herself in a stupid position, I'm not saying she didn't do that. But that is no excuse, as a pastor and professor, he should not have allowed that to happen, and now that he did this it seems that his career is over.

I'm not trying to say that the girl didn't make a stupid decision, because she did, but that doesn't open the door to accuse her of making stuff up, and that doesn't make what happened ok.

Okay, so you either have some inside information or you are a moron.

[Rocketfan]

But that is no excuse, as a pastor and professor, he should not have allowed that to happen, and now that he did this it seems that his career is over.

jdub = guilty until proven innocent.

[jmdickens]

jdub....come on, you're a dook fan and we all remember what happened with the lacrosse team.

[ReKlef]

Here's what they are saying on the wset comment board. It isn't exactly the most intellectual discussion, but a lot of students are defending Prof Moon (at least "a lot" compared to the 15 or so posts)

http://cfc.wset.com/forums/viewmessages ... 11&erow=20

[matshark]

She did put herself in a stupid position, I'm not saying she didn't do that. But that is no excuse, as a pastor and professor, he should not have allowed that to happen, and now that he did this it seems that his career is over.

I'm not trying to say that the girl didn't make a stupid decision, because she did, but that doesn't open the door to accuse her of making stuff up, and that doesn't make what happened ok.

is his career over? most likely.

is he guilty of what he's been charged with? i'd say the odds are decent he could be found not guilty. the story seems a bit fishy to me, and im quite sure the jury will be interested in hearing the REST of the story before they make any decisions.

[JDUB]

jdub....come on, you're a dook fan and we all remember what happened with the lacrosse team.

they were innocent!

[LUconn]

Is there some type of deductive reasoning or logic course at LU these days?