[flamesbball84]

if I wanted to argue about evolution on here I would, but I don't. There's no point in it since no one is going to change their opinion regardless of what anyone on here says. I'd have as good of a chance convincing my cacti to believe in evolution as I would a person who stands firm by the Bible. Likewise a Bible person would have as good of a chance convincing my cacti of their beliefs as they would the DA or me.

[ToTheLeft]

if I wanted to argue about evolution on here I would, but I don't. There's no point in it since no one is going to change their opinion regardless of what anyone on here says.

Plus, you don't have quite the Grammar that DA does.

Which, btw, DA lists his occupation as Advocate... Devil's Advocate. Could be one of our own?

[JMUDukes]

All that to say you have no clue how life began.

I have plenty of clues and they're based on observable falsifiable data, unlike yours.

You observed the beginning of life? No, you didn't. And that's why no story/hypothesis/theory can ever be proven. Because it's not something that can be observed. So stop acting like the scientific majority is some type of noble uncorruptable body that has anything but it's own self-interest at heart.

I smell a troll.

[Sly Fox]

The Genesis of a Debate
Creationist Students Take Field Trip to Hotbed of Evolution: the Smithsonian

By Steve Hendrix
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 11, 2009; Page A01



Every winter, David DeWitt takes his biology class to the Smithsonian's Museum of Natural History, but for a purpose far different from that of other professors.

DeWitt brings his Advanced Creation Studies class (CRST 390, Origins) up from Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., hoping to strengthen his students' belief in a biblical view of natural history, even in the lion's den of evolution.

His yearly visit to the Smithsonian is part of a wider movement by creationists to confront Darwinism in some of its most redoubtable secular strongholds. As scientists celebrate the 200th year of Charles Darwin's birth, his doubters are taking themselves on Genesis-based tours of natural history museums, aquariums, geologic sites and even dinosaur parks.

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[Sly Fox]

The story in the WaPo generated ZERO response from our board but has been the buzz of the rest of the web world since it was posted. Here is an article on the response from the Post:

Creationism, Evolution, Faith and Reason

One of the trip wires of journalism is located along the fault line between creationism and evolution as explanations for the origin of man and other things.

Our Readers Who Comment are having a mostly civilized debate on this today because of Steve Hendrix's story about a Liberty University professor who takes his biology class to the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History in hopes of strengthening a biblical view of natural history.

That view, of course, has big trouble with Darwin and the theory of evolution.

Our readers are using their interpretations of science and religion to argue their points. While the majority of early comments ridiculed the creationist position, its defenders soon joined. Humor and sarcasm (not always the same thing) abound. Several readers wonder why the Post is bothering us with this story --- while readership of it and the length of the comment string grow by the minute.

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[LUconn]

I think the article did some injustice to the course. I know it's a newspaper article so they can't get too technical or it's no longer entertaining, but it made it seem like there's no substance to the actual material that they learn. And it seems like a lot of those comments reflect that.

andrewpatejr wrote, "It's regretful that Liberty students are not fully exposed to the beauty of Darwinism, which is, in reality, NOT opposed to Christian understanding, but to the contrary, quite compatible with its finest expressions."

I'm wondering if this dude even read the article. They're not fully exposed? That's what the article was about! The prof was even filling in the evolutionary holes that the museum left out.

[RubberMallet]

i think we can all agree that none of us really know how the world/universe began. if it was important in regards to our relationship with him then he would of given us more information. Whether you believe in 7 day creationism, theistic evolution (I'll lump 1 day is 10,000 to God in here as well), the Gap Theory, or Atheistic evolution, there has to be regard to fact.

The Bible is an interesting book in that we are left with a lot of words and meanings that christians assume mean one thing when they very well could mean another.

Does evolution explain many of the OBSERVATIONS of the genetic relation between species? Most scientists believe it does, and have some experimental DATA to support their OBSERVATIONS and the limits of their observations. that’s fine. the problem is nothing other than assumptions can point us in the direction of Macro evolution. There is no proof that every organism came from 1 organism and mutated its way to where we are today….

Big bang and evolution are 2 separate issues.

I think the problem many evolutionists have with Creationists are the absolutes that we speak in. Which is hypocritical because when have you ever seen a show and they've said, "this may have happened this way." never….they always talk as if its fact. its not, its their best guess based off of experiments involving something else that they have to assume is the same case in regards to the feathery dinosaur they are talking about.

an example, 7 day Creationists have are generally resolved to the fact that the word Yom (we've translated it into Day but it can also mean era or other periods of time) is a 24 hour period. But it might not be. We have to realize that. Then and only then will we be able to open the door up to productive discussion with those who disagree with 7 day creationism.

Most evolutionists make themselves look silly as well by trying to disprove the Bible by using its english translations. same as the "the Bible has tons of contraditions" yokles you see often.

[NJLibertyboy]

The one annoying thing is that evolutionary scientists claim they are all about the advancement of science and reason. However, I can tell you that everyone of our science professors have been discriminated from journals based on their reputation as being "creationists", even when writing articles using evolutionary time-tables. It's not about science, or finding truth through science, it is about digging their heels in and defending something to the point of exhaustion that can't be proven. It is honestly pretty sad.

What is even more disgusting is that last time I went to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural Science (which is a pretty awesome place), they had an exhibit called "Your closest descendants". It was filled with these models of monkeys, and not smart looking monkeys that use reason to build fire or discuss ethics, but dumb looking monkeys hanging from trees and making silly faces. There was a woman there trying to control her crazy ADDDDD child, who wouldn't listen as she explained the exhibit and how we descended from monkeys, it was pretty funny.

[olldflame]

Evolutionism is a religon, plain and simple. It has foundational beliefs that are accepted on faith, and then adapts science to support it.

[mrmacphisto]

This 'just in,' from America's Finest News Source...

Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory

August 17, 2005 | Issue 41•33


Rev. Gabriel Burdett explains Intelligent Falling.

KANSAS CITY, KS—As the debate over the teaching of evolution in public schools continues, a new controversy over the science curriculum arose Monday in this embattled Midwestern state. Scientists from the Evangelical Center For Faith-Based Reasoning are now asserting that the long-held "theory of gravity" is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

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[LUconn]

The Onion is probably one of the funniest things going these days.

[adam42381]

The Onion = Very Funny