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By Purple Haize
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LU 57 wrote: August 24th, 2020, 8:03 am
Purple Haize wrote: August 24th, 2020, 7:52 am
LU 57 wrote: August 24th, 2020, 7:44 am All I can really say is wow.

Certainly lends a lot of credence to the stories/rumors about JFJR’s endorsement of then candidate Trump. It was quite a head scratcher at the time.

Praying for the Falwells, the Board, and the entire LU family. Leaning on Romans 8:28.
What does Trump have to do with it?
No shot at the President here. I will be voting for him on 11/3.

I was alluding to the stories of Cohen helping JFJR with the blackmail photos in return for an endorsement. I guess we will have to wait and see if Cohen makes that claim, and whether it is credible or not.

Probably should have left it alone.

That is all.
Fair enough. You might be correct
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By TH Spangler
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ballcoach15 wrote: August 24th, 2020, 8:05 am
Purple Haize wrote: August 24th, 2020, 7:52 am
LU 57 wrote: August 24th, 2020, 7:44 am All I can really say is wow.

Certainly lends a lot of credence to the stories/rumors about JFJR’s endorsement of then candidate Trump. It was quite a head scratcher at the time.

Praying for the Falwells, the Board, and the entire LU family. Leaning on Romans 8:28.
What does Trump have to do with it?
Absolutely nothing.
Not according to Hillary! I'm sure this will be her reason #1001 for not being POTUS :lol:
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By Jonathan Carone
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The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.

2) What is he trying to get in front of? Cohen's book is coming out soon. Is there more in there? Did the Board know something bigger was coming which is why they did something?

3) Jerry has rarely ever quoted Scripture. The way this letter quotes Scripture and uses the KJV shows he's trying to speak someone. Who's this geared to?

4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

5) One person suggested the Board has to terminate Jerry immediately before things get worse.

I don't know if Jerry thought this letter would fix things, but it certainly has done anything but that.
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By Jonathan Carone
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Granda, (the pool boy - my edit), told the Examiner in an email that "any allegation of extortion" is false, "defamatory, and belied by clear documentary evidence," adding that the attempt by the Falwells "to sandbag me" with this "last-minute story" just "reeks of desperation," and "the WHOLE truth will come out."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/jerry-falwel ... 00284.html
By thepostman
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Yeah. This was not a smart move on his part. Going to the media?? It will only bring more negative attention to the Liberty University name.
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By chris leedlelee
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To be fair to Jerry, you can somewhat sympathize with him if he indeed did have to deal with the issue of marital infidelity and dealing with extortion threats. Assuming the story as stated is all that there is too it, I think it is entirely appropriate to have some Christian compassion on his more erratic behaviors given the stress that he had to endure. It would explain his rapid weight loss and his outbursts and odd behavior.
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By Just John
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PR ploy in my book....

Why did he feel it necessary to go to the press with this instead of only to the BOT? Throws Becki directly under the bus. The liberal quoting of scripture, from a guy who hasn't attended church regularly for years... :BS

I'm guessing his NY lawyer has mush experience in damage control but not sure they know how it works in the Evangelical world. Have to say of late, I'm not so sure either.
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By TH Spangler
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 24th, 2020, 10:50 am The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.

2) What is he trying to get in front of? Cohen's book is coming out soon. Is there more in there? Did the Board know something bigger was coming which is why they did something?

3) Jerry has rarely ever quoted Scripture. The way this letter quotes Scripture and uses the KJV shows he's trying to speak someone. Who's this geared to?

4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

5) One person suggested the Board has to terminate Jerry immediately before things get worse.

I don't know if Jerry thought this letter would fix things, but it certainly has done anything but that.
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By hoop20
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 24th, 2020, 10:50 am The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.

2) What is he trying to get in front of? Cohen's book is coming out soon. Is there more in there? Did the Board know something bigger was coming which is why they did something?

3) Jerry has rarely ever quoted Scripture. The way this letter quotes Scripture and uses the KJV shows he's trying to speak someone. Who's this geared to?

4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

5) One person suggested the Board has to terminate Jerry immediately before things get worse.

I don't know if Jerry thought this letter would fix things, but it certainly has done anything but that.
All of the above.
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By LUAlum1215
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TH Spangler wrote: August 24th, 2020, 11:21 am
Jonathan Carone wrote: August 24th, 2020, 10:50 am The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.

2) What is he trying to get in front of? Cohen's book is coming out soon. Is there more in there? Did the Board know something bigger was coming which is why they did something?

3) Jerry has rarely ever quoted Scripture. The way this letter quotes Scripture and uses the KJV shows he's trying to speak someone. Who's this geared to?

4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

5) One person suggested the Board has to terminate Jerry immediately before things get worse.

I don't know if Jerry thought this letter would fix things, but it certainly has done anything but that.
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Yep. That was what I'd heard and what it looked like to me when I was around. Here's the next question... if she's been the one holding the puppet strings and the one running the show so to speak, what else is going on that Jr still plays that game even after she's had an affair?

I don't see how the BoT can possibly bring him back as president, but am starting to wonder if he should come back at all. How long does the board wait before they make an official, permanent change?
By thepostman
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If it is true that he went to the media about this before the board then he is probably as good as gone and he knows it.

Who knows. This is a mess and in my opinion just makes things worse.
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By Just John
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 24th, 2020, 10:50 am The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.



4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

1. If he did pay this guy any money we need to hope it was his personal money and not through the university.

4. I am told that Becki is Nassar's champion. As for the riff between Jonathan and Jr, that has always been there but she hasn't helped. The two families rarely socialize with one another but we know they are as different as water and oil.
By flamehunter
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Question: does the most recent photo of JR and Becki's assistant, that was supposedly taken by Becki, look like something a couple with infidelity in their past and having reconciled would do? No. I think this is part of their ongoing history and and a tip of the iceberg. The letter is in JR's eyes a sympathy play. Unfortunately for him its not working.
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By olldflame
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 24th, 2020, 10:50 am The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.

2) What is he trying to get in front of? Cohen's book is coming out soon. Is there more in there? Did the Board know something bigger was coming which is why they did something?

3) Jerry has rarely ever quoted Scripture. The way this letter quotes Scripture and uses the KJV shows he's trying to speak someone. Who's this geared to?

4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

5) One person suggested the Board has to terminate Jerry immediately before things get worse.

I don't know if Jerry thought this letter would fix things, but it certainly has done anything but that.

If #4 is correct, all I can think of is "shoulda listened to your momma JR". Macel was dead set against him marrying her, and it caused a huge rift between them for years. Not saying mothers should be able to decide who their sons marry, but it might be a good idea to listen.
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By flameshaw
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 24th, 2020, 10:50 am The amount of messages I've gotten about this so far today is through the roof. Some really interesting ideas I can't take credit for but are worth sharing for the discussion:

1) He let himself get blackmailed by a 20-something year old instead of coming forward and telling the truth. If he was blackmailed by that, what other blackmails have there been? And why did he not come forward and trust the Liberty community when it happened? These are all ideas that put in jeopardy the character of someone leading the University.

2) What is he trying to get in front of? Cohen's book is coming out soon. Is there more in there? Did the Board know something bigger was coming which is why they did something?

3) Jerry has rarely ever quoted Scripture. The way this letter quotes Scripture and uses the KJV shows he's trying to speak someone. Who's this geared to?

4) The amount of people who have mentioned Becki being the wizard behind the curtain pulling the power strings has been surprising. One person even said she was "a weight around his neck he probably doesn’t even realize he’s carrying." Another said she's "just as power hungry as he, and I would argue she is the root of a lot of it." A third told me she's been the catalyst for the separation of Jerry and Jonathan and the rest of the family.

5) One person suggested the Board has to terminate Jerry immediately before things get worse.

I don't know if Jerry thought this letter would fix things, but it certainly has done anything but that.
I would say that the above is indeed mostly wild speculation, mixed with some inkling of truths. What is public knowledge is that the boys have never seen eye to eye, long before either one got married. The other is that Becki has been some protection for Nasser, as JJ has stated. I am confident that the board has everything it needs to terminate Jr. immediately, if they see the need. Sometimes it takes a little while to finalize the details, to formalize whatever decision they make. I would say the Cohen is not even on the radar right now. IMHO
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By Jonathan Carone
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flamehunter wrote: August 24th, 2020, 11:37 am Question: does the most recent photo of JR and Becki's assistant, that was supposedly taken by Becki, look like something a couple with infidelity in their past and having reconciled would do? No. I think this is part of their ongoing history and and a tip of the iceberg. The letter is in JR's eyes a sympathy play. Unfortunately for him its not working.
And given the examples of some of the women Jerry follows on Instagram, the photos of college girls in bikinis he's liked, and the rumors of him sharing pictures of Becki, it's just a lot of smoke that a lot more was going on in their personal lives.
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By Jonathan Carone
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chris leedlelee wrote: August 24th, 2020, 11:09 am To be fair to Jerry, you can somewhat sympathize with him if he indeed did have to deal with the issue of marital infidelity and dealing with extortion threats. Assuming the story as stated is all that there is too it, I think it is entirely appropriate to have some Christian compassion on his more erratic behaviors given the stress that he had to endure. It would explain his rapid weight loss and his outbursts and odd behavior.
Didn't want this to go unanswered.

If I believed the statement, I think you're 100% spot on with extending compassion and grace.

I just don't believe it given other things I've heard.
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By bluedevilflame
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LUconn wrote: August 24th, 2020, 12:02 pm Some of you really taking "my wife made me do it" with ease. That's so evangelical...
Yeah he’s obviously trying to get ahead of a bigger story that’s hovering out there, probably Cohens upcoming book.
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By sstaedtler
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There obviously has to be a lot more to the story than Falwell is letting on. Even if I feel bad for him going through depression, with the photos out there and who knows what else we will find out - He cannot ever be the President of Liberty University again.
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