[Purple Haize]

With a $400k salary and a free house atop the mountain he will fight to keep his plum job. Will his benefactor be able to help?

That’s why he’s laying low. He wants “to be of service “ to whoever comes next

[Jonathan Carone]

I don’t mind the $400k salary or the house. For someone in his role, that could be considered fair compensation. Maybe a little high on the salary, but I believe in paying more for people you value.

That said - we need someone in that position different than him.

[ballcoach15]

Most overpaid employee at LU.

[flameshaw]

Most overpaid employee at LU.

Amen............................. empty suit. Based on his performance, he is over paid by about $350k plus a house. He is supposed to be the campus pastor. What is the biggest problem on campus right now? Spiritual leadership. He can always blame it on leadership above him, but even if that is true (and it probably is), he should have resigned if he didn't agree with the direction. That also means, in order to save his job, he has to throw his protection under the bus. Either way, not a good show of any moral character. Con man in my humble opinion. He is past being coached up.

[Purple Haize]

Most overpaid employee at LU.

Yes you are

[olldflame]

Most overpaid employee at LU.

Yes you are

If I recall, Cider once posted here that their buddy TF liked to joke that BC was a volunteer coach, and he was overpaid.

[Purple Haize]

Most overpaid employee at LU.

Yes you are

If I recall, Cider once posted here that their buddy TF liked to joke that BC was a volunteer coach, and he was overpaid.

Fraudcoach has said not to bite the hand that feeds you so he’s obviously getting paid. Obviously too much. He’s also claimed he’s an usher at football games. So again, overpaid based on the number of times people have been in my seats.

[ballcoach15]

Ball coach has never been an usher.

[thepostman]

he worked security. Keep up PH.

Anyways, Nasser was hired to do the exact job he has done. I am not a huge fan but at the end of the day he was hired to do his job a certain way and he did it. That does speak about his character a bit but his shortcomings have more to do with how the Liberty hierarchy works than with him.

[Purple Haize]

he worked security. Keep up PH.

Anyways, Nasser was hired to do the exact job he has done. I am not a huge fan but at the end of the day he was hired to do his job a certain way and he did it. That does speak about his character a bit but his shortcomings have more to do with how the Liberty hierarchy works than with him.

Security. Usher. Same thing at LU

[LUAlum1215]

he worked security. Keep up PH.

Anyways, Nasser was hired to do the exact job he has done. I am not a huge fan but at the end of the day he was hired to do his job a certain way and he did it. That does speak about his character a bit but his shortcomings have more to do with how the Liberty hierarchy works than with him.

I have to disagree. I can't speak to why he was hired or how he was asked to carry out his duties, but from a character perspective DN has no business being the pastor of anything at LU. In my former position I worked numerous events each week with his office. Most of his staff were easy to work with but when he came around you could feel the stress and anxiety in the room. I have witnessed far too many acts (and been the subject of a few) of pure disrespect and disregard from him towards people around him, especially those who fall under him in the chain of command. A pastor would never talk to or treat people the way I've seen him interact with people.

[Purple Haize]

I dunno. A lot of pastors are a holes. True story.

[Just John]

Most overpaid employee at LU.

Yes you are

If I recall, Cider once posted here that their buddy TF liked to joke that BC was a volunteer coach, and he was overpaid.

Speaking of TF, would be curious to know his thoughts about Nassar....

[thepostman]

@LUAlum1215 i have no doubt he is a difficult person to work for but again, it goes back to the pressure he is under by the peoole who hired him. They have a particular vision and he is simply the one charged to seeing it happen. He wasn't a good hire but he is exactly the kind or person Jerry wanted in that position which is all that matter. It goes back to the larger issue and moving away from Jerry's leadership.

[LUAlum1215]

Just to be clear, I never worked for him or his office, but worked events along side of them. I've never thought what he was saying or asking was much issue, but how he does it bothers me. But some things are completely ridiculous and not indicative of a professional individual much less a pastor. Many of what I mentioned had nothing to do with work situations but just how he conducted himself generally.

[thepostman]

Don't get me wrong. I believe you and always thought he was a bad hire but he does as he is told and that is the main quality Jerry likes.

[Purple Haize]

Just to be clear, I never worked for him or his office, but worked events along side of them. I've never thought what he was saying or asking was much issue, but how he does it bothers me. But some things are completely ridiculous and not indicative of a professional individual much less a pastor. Many of what I mentioned had nothing to do with work situations but just how he conducted himself generally.

You might have an idealized vision of what pastors act like. I don’t know Nasser but I’ve worked for a lot of pastors. There’s a reason you shouldn’t put people on a pedestal. I don’t doubt one bit you saw and experienced what you saw and experienced. However, this type of behavior is far far more common than people think

[Jonathan Carone]

@LUAlum1215 i have no doubt he is a difficult person to work for but again, it goes back to the pressure he is under by the peoole who hired him. They have a particular vision and he is simply the one charged to seeing it happen. He wasn't a good hire but he is exactly the kind or person Jerry wanted in that position which is all that matter. It goes back to the larger issue and moving away from Jerry's leadership.

This feels like you’re giving him a pass because of the directives from above.

He was hired specifically to do exactly what he’s been doing and that’s one of the problems. Even if we replace Jerry, Nasser still be will an issue because of the way he operates. He should be a part of the house cleaning.

[thepostman]

I'm not sure why it feels that way to you, that isn't what I was saying at all. I was never a fan of the hire but I know he was hired for a purpose and he is fulfilling that purpose. Now that it appears the tide is shifting a bit, he will probably move on.

[LUAlum1215]

Blowing your nose in a tissue and throwing it on the floor in the Vines tunnel then scoffing at the person who calls you out on it and still refusing to pick it up and throw it away, rolling your eyes and grunting at someone who says good morning and wishes you a good day on every convo morning, and threatening to call an employees VP when they don't do what you demanded of them even when it is clearly is not their responsibility nor within their ability to do it are not things that make you unqualified to pastor, they are things that make you a JA. I could go on but my point isn't that my frustration isn't with his pastoral performance or LU responsibilities but are issues within the character. That's why I think he should be gone. Those issues were present when he was hired, they weren't instilled due to his job.

Hopefully he won't be retained with whatever changes are hopefully coming.

[thepostman]

I do apologize if my words made it seem like I was justifying his behavior and how he treats people. It wasn't that at all. I know his deal and know he was kept on because he enabled Jerry. Those are the kinds of people that stick around which is what the board is probably hearing more and more about. So even though I think Nasser is unfit for the position he holds, i just understand it is a symptom of what has been wrong with the Liberty culture for years.

It is interesting that he takes LU off his twitter profile and then posts this...

[Just John]

Just to be clear, I never worked for him or his office, but worked events along side of them. I've never thought what he was saying or asking was much issue, but how he does it bothers me. But some things are completely ridiculous and not indicative of a professional individual much less a pastor. Many of what I mentioned had nothing to do with work situations but just how he conducted himself generally.

You might have an idealized vision of what pastors act like. I don’t know Nasser but I’ve worked for a lot of pastors. There’s a reason you shouldn’t put people on a pedestal. I don’t doubt one bit you saw and experienced what you saw and experienced. However, this type of behavior is far far more common than people think

Agree. I have worked with some of the largest "media pastors" and many are full of themselves. At the same time, I have worked with others that are incredibly down to earth...and set the culture for the entire organization. Hiring good people for the right reasons is a prerequisite and I think there is a pretty good consensus on this hire.

[Jonathan Carone]

I think it’s harmful to put people on a pedestal, but the position of pastor should be held to a higher standard. It comes with a high calling and even higher standards and should be held to such. Too often pastors feel no accountability and it empowers them to be the types of people mentioned above.

[Purple Haize]

I think it’s harmful to put people on a pedestal, but the position of pastor should be held to a higher standard. It comes with a high calling and even higher standards and should be held to such. Too often pastors feel no accountability and it empowers them to be the types of people mentioned above.

Pastors are ALWAYS held to a different standard. I have no illusions of the crap they put up with.
Your last point blends with the first. If everything you do is criticized or praised you’ll get a warped sense of self. It’s why I treat pastors like I would anyone else

[flameshaw]

I think it’s harmful to put people on a pedestal, but the position of pastor should be held to a higher standard. It comes with a high calling and even higher standards and should be held to such. Too often pastors feel no accountability and it empowers them to be the types of people mentioned above.

Pastors are ALWAYS held to a different standard. I have no illusions of the crap they put up with.
Your last point blends with the first. If everything you do is criticized or praised you’ll get a warped sense of self. It’s why I treat pastors like I would anyone else

As a member of a good pastor's family for almost 50 years and knowing many, many pastors. I would say that there and some good ones and many, many, bad ones. Let's just say I am more skeptical of them than most people, generally speaking. I can read most of them like a book, within the first 5 minutes of meeting them. Nasser is a joke. I am sure some in leadership are aware of it. But with everything else going on, he may get over-looked in the shuffle. He is literally the first one that should go.