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By alabama24
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LUconn wrote:Johnny tried to spin that and just completely failed. I see what he's trying to say but that looks pretty silly. It was really unnecessary to be trying to align ourselves with Trump's personal philosophies.
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By adam42381
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BuryYourDuke wrote:I feel like vomiting. I think that I've never felt more ashamed of our university. Not because of Trump, or what he said, but because we endorsed it. Disgusting.
Agreed. The statement was a load of horse dung. :vomit
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By flamesfan30
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adam42381 wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:I feel like vomiting. I think that I've never felt more ashamed of our university. Not because of Trump, or what he said, but because we endorsed it. Disgusting.
Agreed. The statement was a load of horse dung. :vomit
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By jmdickens
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Wilberforce91 wrote:I guess that's what being a former Helms School student will do to ya.
I am happy you ignored a few key points from your Jurisprudence classes.
Now, regarding gay 'marriage' rights and abortion. Bunk. Homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals do
:BS
Except marry the person they love. You know, the whole crux of the discussion.
Marriage is a covenant relationship of one man, one woman, for life that reflects the nature of a triune God. Anything other than that is not true, biblical marriage.
Exactly, marriage is a religious ceremony and according to the Law, should not be established or recognized by the state. If the state recognizes a marriage, according to the First and Fourteenth Amendment, it has to recognize all marriages. Our argument needs to change to allowing the Church to decide who gets married! How long have we heard this topic from politicians?

The baby's right to life trumps (no pun intended...at least its on topic) the mother's rights to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Not according to the Supreme Court Study , and we must follow the law of the land (ask the dean of the School of Govt how is boss is dealing with that). While I agree with your conclusion, our ONLY viable chance to stop abortion is to first strip the Supreme Court of jurisdiction on abortion. You know, make it a state issue. Murder is a state issue and is decided by each state so it would make more sense and result in less government. It would allow more states and the people in those states to have laws that better reflect their views. Any law at the federal law would only exacerbate the underlying problem.
The problem is that as a culture, process philosophy and relativism is the dominant worldview and has been at least for the last century. God has been removed as the Creator and Sustainer of all things, and in His place, man has been raised to become the measure of all things.
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77% of all US Citizens identify themselves as Christians.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiani ... ted_States

The removal of Christ from our worldviews is a personal decision. Not something that is a role of civil government. Study
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By TH Spangler
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Purple Haize wrote:National Healthcare is in the Bible? Study
Here's a good warning about depending to much on the wrong King.
1 Samuel 8:5-9

5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”

6 But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”
Im beginning to think you're just a pot stirrer. You're a hard core Romney supporter .... and he is trying his best to run on limited Gov/King and now you're on here promoting National Healthcare? You know you're really turning off the Ron Paul guys now!!!!! :lol:
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By adam42381
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Hold My Own wrote:"Ricky is the greatest of all time." - Ricky Henderson
"Rickey says you better spell Rickey's name right or Rickey will get upset." - Rickey Henderson
By logic
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Wilderness hit this one on the head, and much more eloquently than I ever could. Everything he said is right on.

Let us get back to the basics.

1. Abortion is wrong.
2. Supporting then a political organization that supports abortion is also wrong.
3. A Christian should therefore not support the Democratic party.


Pretty simple. Haize, you are making it harder than you need to. And if you do not agree that abortion is wrong...well...there is no way we can reach you.

Wilderness also hit on the subject of forced altruism. It should be a crime, plain and simple.
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By Purple Haize
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adam42381 wrote:
jmdickens wrote:okay...is Mitt Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?
Depends on which will get him the votes he wants.
He is neither. He is Pro Business ! Or Pro Rich people. Depending in your point of view :D
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By Purple Haize
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logic wrote:
Let us get back to the basics.

1. Abortion is wrong.
2. Supporting then a political organization that supports abortion is also wrong.
3. A Christian should therefore not support the Democratic party.


Pretty simple. Haize, you are making it harder than you need to. And if you do not agree that abortion is wrong...well...there is no way we can reach you.

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Find me the quote where I said abortion wasn't wrong :dontgetit
Your 'basics' are also flawed. 1 does not Support 2. Nor does 2 support 3. Of course 1 should support 3 as well but doesn't. A simple Critical Thinking class would show that. But taking your 'basics' as true, where does it end? Why just Political parties? The Democratic Party did not abort the baby. The pregnant woman decided, of her own free will, to have the abortion. The physician, of his or her own free will, decided to perform the procedure. Should we not go to doctors? He or she belongs to the AMA, so should Christians not go to doctors who belong to the AMA? What about the Medical Colleges who teach the procedure? Can you, as a Christian, support those schools and doctors who graduate from there? These schools are teaching the procedure, not the Democratic Party. Their doctors are performing the procedure, not the Democratic Party. Even physicians who do not perform the procedure but graduate from the Medical College are still supporting the act of abortion, according to your reasoning, through their tuition dollars.
And if you really want to take this out to its 'logical' extension, Christians can't buy anything made in China. Why? Because China FORCES women to have abortions. Which, can be seen as far more hideous then what we have here in America. And what about businesses that support Democrats? No Ben and Jerry's for you. Better find out what Berkshire Hathoway owns, cause you can't go to any of those businesses.
Oh, and you can't vote for Mitt Romney, because when he was at Bain, he owned stock in a company that supported abortion, was actually in the abortion business some would say.
Life isn't so simple is it? I would say go back listening to your Wagner, but we all know whose favorite composer her was
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By TH Spangler
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logic wrote:Haize ... there is no way we can reach you.
But God can! Get ready Haize, he has an appointment scheduled with you in his day planner! :idea: :lol:

By the way, I met Taggart at the airport on his way out of town yesterday. Does he work for the LA Dodgers? Nice guy.
By logic
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Purple Haize wrote:
logic wrote:
Let us get back to the basics.

1. Abortion is wrong.
2. Supporting then a political organization that supports abortion is also wrong.
3. A Christian should therefore not support the Democratic party.


Pretty simple. Haize, you are making it harder than you need to. And if you do not agree that abortion is wrong...well...there is no way we can reach you.

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Find me the quote where I said abortion wasn't wrong :dontgetit
Your 'basics' are also flawed. 1 does not Support 2. Nor does 2 support 3. Of course 1 should support 3 as well but doesn't. A simple Critical Thinking class would show that. But taking your 'basics' as true, where does it end? Why just Political parties? The Democratic Party did not abort the baby. The pregnant woman decided, of her own free will, to have the abortion. The physician, of his or her own free will, decided to perform the procedure. Should we not go to doctors? He or she belongs to the AMA, so should Christians not go to doctors who belong to the AMA? What about the Medical Colleges who teach the procedure? Can you, as a Christian, support those schools and doctors who graduate from there? These schools are teaching the procedure, not the Democratic Party. Their doctors are performing the procedure, not the Democratic Party. Even physicians who do not perform the procedure but graduate from the Medical College are still supporting the act of abortion, according to your reasoning, through their tuition dollars.
And if you really want to take this out to its 'logical' extension, Christians can't buy anything made in China. Why? Because China FORCES women to have abortions. Which, can be seen as far more hideous then what we have here in America. And what about businesses that support Democrats? No Ben and Jerry's for you. Better find out what Berkshire Hathoway owns, cause you can't go to any of those businesses.
Oh, and you can't vote for Mitt Romney, because when he was at Bain, he owned stock in a company that supported abortion, was actually in the abortion business some would say.
Life isn't so simple is it? I would say go back listening to your Wagner, but we all know whose favorite composer her was

And on top of all that you just said, at the very least we don't have to vote for the party that supports it if we can't get away from it!
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By Purple Haize
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TH Spangler wrote:
logic wrote:Haize ... there is no way we can reach you.
But God can! Get ready Haize, he has an appointment scheduled with you in his day planner! :idea: :I am laughing out loud. I typed "LOL" but that is for teenage girls who text. So please know that I am laughing. Out loud.:

By the way, I met Taggart at the airport on his way out of town yesterday. Does he work for the LA Dodgers? Nice guy.
Really? I've talked to my people and they don't have anything on the books. Maybe it was sent via LinkedIn :dontgetit
By logic
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Purple Haize wrote:logic- you are free to vote for whomever you chose. I'm not sure that was ever the issue. The issue is/was how can Christians be Democrats.

As in....Christians can't get away from all things abortion, but at least they don't have to vote for it.
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By Purple Haize
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logic wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:logic- you are free to vote for whomever you chose. I'm not sure that was ever the issue. The issue is/was how can Christians be Democrats.

As in....Christians can't get away from all things abortion, but at least they don't have to vote for it.
I was unaware abortion was up for a vote :dontgetit
By phoenix
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logic wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:logic- you are free to vote for whomever you chose. I'm not sure that was ever the issue. The issue is/was how can Christians be Democrats.

As in....Christians can't get away from all things abortion, but at least they don't have to vote for it.
What about hiring a company that supports it? Or supports partner rights ("code" for gay marriage)?

'Cause that's what Southern Seminary did a while back when they hired a company to do maintenance and janitorial services on campus. Guess that Al Mohler fellow is just a liberal in disguise, huh?

I've gotten VERY cynical about any political solution to the abortion issue. We elected George W., and what did he do about it? Last I checked, it was still legal. :(
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By El Scorcho
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logic wrote: Let us get back to the basics.

1. Abortion is wrong.
2. Supporting then a political organization that supports abortion is also wrong.
3. A Christian should therefore not support the Democratic party.


Pretty simple.
I can play this game, too.

1. Killing innocent people with drones is wrong.
2. Supporting a political organization that supports killing innocent people with drones is also wrong.
3. A Christian should therefore not support the Democratic or Republican party.

Pretty simple.
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