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#7979
From the WSET web site. I love the "It's the law" statement. :wink:
Lynchburg, VA - It's the law. Colleges have to report certain crimes. Now, one campus safety group says Liberty University violated that law, by not properly handling a rape case.

The group "Security on Campus" has filed a complaint with the U-S Department of Education. But the university says it's done nothing wrong. In fact, it says it still isn’t sure a rape actually took place. The alleged victim says the school is ignoring her complaints.

Daniel Carter, Security on Campus - "We are asking the Department of Education to review Liberty's campus crime disclosures, to ensure that students are getting timely and accurate information about crime on the campus."

The group Security on Campus says it filed the complaint at the urging of several students. One claims she was raped on campus last April. She does not want us to say where and Campus Police did not report it.

Carter - "Any time a crime is brought to the attention of a campus police officer or other authority on campus, it becomes a reportable offense."

That's Federal law - so it can be available to the people on campus and the public, and will show up in national campus crime statistics. A Department of Education website shows Liberty reported one rape - back in 2002.

Carter - "No timely warning was ever issued, which is one of the Cleary act's requirements, to warn students about ongoing threats to their safety."

In a statement to ABC-13, the university says it did not report it because, quote, "It was first denied that any assault occurred and she did not change her story until many months later. As of this point, there has never been a sexual assault report done to L.U.P.D."

Campus police did take the student to the hospital. But she admits she did not file a report or get a rape test. She says she regrets that now. About the log itself, Security on Campus says students were not even able to access it, to see if the rape was reported.

Carter - "They were not able to access any crime log whatsoever."

The university says there was and is a log, but the person the students asked didn't know about it. They say all staff is now informed about the log and knows that everyone has access to it.

While we can't say where the alleged rape took place, that area of campus does NOT have security cameras, and the student says she wants that to change. Campus police say the area is well lit and patrolled.
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By PAmedic
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#7985
some pretty yellow journalism. That report IS online, I believe a pdf file on liberty.edu ,on the LUPD site.

I've personally looked at it, because it interests me- so I know its there. I bet I find it in 10 minutes or less. Start the clock.
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By PAmedic
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#7987
GREAT fact checking there by WSET. What did that take me, 3 minutes? ITS RIGHT THERE, 2004 being the last year given because I'm sure the data from 2005 isn't in yet.


LU 2004 Crime Report
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By PAmedic
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#7989
if thats too hard to find, they could've linked from here like I did- its the page w/ the BIG BADGE ON IT.

LUPD homepage.

I'm sure there is no agenda behind this :roll:
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By Flamesfanva
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#7990
Do I see a career in investigative reporting for you? Seems WSET could use some help in that area. 8)
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By PAmedic
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I actually found it last year- looking for info on Public Safety at LU after talking to PD/EMS at homecoming. And that reporting IS mandatory- LU can't just NOT post that info.

For SET to put that out there w/out investigating it is pathetic and shameful.

I'm NOT surprised that the students don't know where to find the info- we still can't get people to remember how to dial 911. Kids think they're invincible and don't care about this stuff until it happens. I'm also not surprised the victim didn't press charges immediately. Thats also very common in this type of case. Thats why its EMS/PDs job to make sure they get to an ED for counseling and testing, because they wont go on their own. But I digress.
By A.G.
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The problem in the Philly area is folks finding the eleven on the phone!!
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By PAmedic
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funny man there. SCAR gonna put a beat down on ya!

Actually- we really do stress that its "NYNE" - "WUHN" - "WUHN".

especially in the elementary schools- kids DO look for an eleven!
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By El Scorcho
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#8023
"But she admits she did not file a report or get a rape test."

If you don't file a report, there IS NO CRIME. How can they put it on a statistical report if the victim refuses to acknowledge it happened? That's how the system works. Crime is reported, arrest is made, trial and either conviction or aquittal. If you don't freaking report it, there's nothing else for the cops to do.

I don't even understand how this is a story other than it happened at LU. Seems to me that a student of questionable mental health ran to a shallow media outlet to make some noise. Argh.
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By bigsmooth
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#8025
just another case of the the liberal media doing anything to crack on liberty.
By absturgill
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#8030
It was a weak story to begin with. I liked and still like 13 but that was a stretch of a story.
By A.G.
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Kool aid Kool Aid, tastes great!
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By PAmedic
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The 2005 crime data report is in (pdf format), right there on the main page of the LUPD website.

again, took me all of 2 minutes to find it. Yeah- we're hiding stuff. :roll:

the link below is kinda, like the fishwrap links- either cut and paste it or go to the site and then link:

http://www.liberty.edu/media/1370/Crime ... 02-04).pdf
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By Sly Fox
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As someone int he business, I can tell you that was a pretty lame performance. Its not uncommon in small markets without proper management to not do a proper job of telling the story. The reporter's respose would probably be, "What are you complaining about? I talked to both sides of the issue." In other words, I don't have the time or inclination to do any work for myself so I'll jet let some squeaky wheels provide all the facts.

Is WSET still hiring primarily entry-level reporters these days?

As for the facts of the case, I think we are all for every sexual assault being fully investigated and prosecuted. But this particular instance leaves little criminal recourse. It would be an extremely difficult case to prosecute and I doubt a grand jury would hand up an indictment unfortunately. Honestly I don;t doubt her story but she's left everyone with no case to handle.
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By Flamesfanva
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What would be interesting is a story on crime on LU's campus as compared to other colleges in the area. Looking at those reports from LUPD, I would say LU is a relatively safe campus.
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