A Sea Of Red

Who Wins?

I reluctantly picked NE here. I think it will be close and the Jags will play well, but at the end of the day I think TB picks the Jags secondary apart.

Despite Lefty's fanboy crush on Gruden, Jacksonville is the best team from Florida in the playoffs and if they were playing anybody else, I'd take them. Unfortunately, they're not.

RagingTireFire wrote:Despite Lefty's fanboy crush on Gruden, Jacksonville is the best team from Florida in the playoffs and if they were playing anybody else, I'd take them. Unfortunately, they're not.

Wow, I HATE Gruden. I just love my team. I thought he should have been fired after last year, and hope he gets fired now.

But I agree, Jax > Bucs.

you hate Gruden?? Must I remind you of what you said a couple weeks ago

ToTheLeft wrote:Luke McCown can't handle the play call at the line of scrimmage.

Can't get his guys set up in formation.

Luke calls a timeout and comes to the sideline.

And plain as day, on FOX Television, you see Jon Gruden saying (by reading lips)...

"What the **** is wrong with you?"

He doesn't put up with a QB who can't handle an offense. I love it.

http://flamefans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7337

That sounded like quite the opposite

You should run for president Lefty, you like to flip-flop. One week you love Gruden, the next you hate him.

go to moe's and eat a joey and chew on that!

I'm still waiting for a response

He's probably on the toilet after eating a joey. give him time,YOUR'E THE MAN TTL!!!

thepostman wrote:you hate Gruden?? Must I remind you of what you said a couple weeks ago

ToTheLeft wrote:Luke McCown can't handle the play call at the line of scrimmage.

Can't get his guys set up in formation.

Luke calls a timeout and comes to the sideline.

And plain as day, on FOX Television, you see Jon Gruden saying (by reading lips)...

"What the **** is wrong with you?"

He doesn't put up with a QB who can't handle an offense. I love it.

http://flamefans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7337

That sounded like quite the opposite

That was my "Why I Love Him"

You will note that use of profanity in teaching his QB was all that I mentioned.

The "Why I Hate Him" list is a LOT longer.

bigsmooth wrote:He's probably on the toilet after eating a joey. give him time,YOUR'E THE MAN TTL!!!

Actually went to Chick-Fil-A...

Haven't been to Moe's yet, plan on going tonight. I can taste my custom Joey now.

wow...you really should run for office man...that was great!

and so can the toilet

thepostman wrote:wow...you really should run for office man...that was great!

If you knew me you would know that I have been on the "Get Rid of Gruden" bandwagon for a while.

I wanted Ken Wisenhunt this offseason. I wanted Gruden out.

I thought that he didn't do anything this year to earn a job as our Head Coach.

then I guess my question is why did you seem to aruge with me when I said he hasn't done much since winning the Super Bowl? He was given a good team that Dungy built...

you said you were tired of hearing the Dungy stuff and stuck up for Gruden....that is why its hard to believe you hate the guy....

thepostman wrote:then I guess my question is why did you seem to aruge with me when I said he hasn't done much since winning the Super Bowl? He was given a good team that Dungy built...

you said you were tired of hearing the Dungy stuff and stuck up for Gruden....that is why its hard to believe you hate the guy....

I hate Dungy, too. I think both of them are incompetent to win the big game. Gruden is better off, but his crap has gotten old in Tampa. His offense is outdated, and isn't even that good, and he adds nothing to the defense, and we are about to lose our D Coordinator. We need someone else, would have been nice to get Tomlin, former assistant.

I would like to see Raheem Morris, our DB Coach, move up to D Coordinator, and bring in a new HC for next season. Someone who will run the ball and handle the locker room well.

fair enough...I disagree though, i think Dungy is by far a better coach then Gruden

thepostman wrote:fair enough...I disagree though, i think Dungy is by far a better coach then Gruden

I think Peyton is a good coach.

I don't think Dungy is.

ToTheLeft wrote:

thepostman wrote:fair enough...I disagree though, i think Dungy is by far a better coach then Gruden

I think Peyton is a good coach.

I don't think Dungy is.

Are you starving yourself or something.....because your "tampa is going to the superbowl" and now you dont' think Dungy isn't a good coach is getting close to a Britney breakdown i think.

Nope, I actually had an extra sandwich with my Number One Combo a Chick-fil-a.

I was just mocking Knuckles Chargers thread, and sippin' on the home town .

That's about it. I wasn't expecting much from them, I have been on the Pats bandwagon for a while now, I am sure everyone noticed that.

ToTheLeft wrote:Nope, I actually had an extra sandwich with my Number One Combo a Chick-fil-a.

I was just mocking Knuckles Chargers thread, and sippin' on the home town .

That's about it. I wasn't expecting much from them, I have been on the Pats bandwagon for a while now, I am sure everyone noticed that.

So, there we are. It's my fault you made a dumb comment!

I also caused global warming and starvation worldwide!

You are the reason Al Gore is so angry.

Thanks.

ToTheLeft wrote: I think both of them are incompetent to win the big game.

So the 2 guys you choose to think are too incompetent to win the big game, have both won the big game within the last 5 years. You should be a NFL team president.

LUconn wrote:

ToTheLeft wrote: I think both of them are incompetent to win the big game.

So the 2 guys you choose to think are too incompetent to win the big game, have both won the big game within the last 5 years. You should be a NFL team president.

Blind Squirrel finds the Acorn?

This is just my gut, how I feel about the issue. Both of them caused me a ton of heartache as a Bucs fan, and I have a ton of hard feelings towards them. They just never got us where we need to go.

Plus, Peyton won that Super Bowl, not Dungy. Dungy was along for the ride. He is a defensive coach, and their defense was in the bottom 5 of the league.

Never got you where you need to go?

You won the Super Bowl.

Where else do you need to go?