A Sea Of Red

this 20-3 run is the result of some of the worst calls and non-calls i've ever seen. Did anyone just see that blatent goaltending by hansborough? The refs are simply looking the other way. What a load of crap.

usc gets no and-1 calls and unc never got called for any over the backs.

usc choked...not excuse for losing that lead whatsoever.....

and I HATE UNC....and Duke for that matter

those refs were overzealously and eagerly calling fouls on usc as soon as possible and only calling obvious hacks on the heels. It was one of the worst officiating jobs I've ever seen and it got progressively worse as the rally continued. Anyone rational person who looks at the footage objectively will agree with me.

you are a Duke fan there is no way in the world you will look at a UNC game objectively....

USC had the game won and completely withered under pressure...good teams don't let bad calls effect them....yes you are right there were calls blown...but like I said good teams overcome that...

UNC isn't going any further so don't you worry.....

well, since you're using the duke line on me, next time you use the "Duke gets every call " conspiracy line, I'll just quote you on how much you hate duke At this point, the only team remaining that I can tolerate is Oregon, FREAKING OREGON! You know the tourney has hit a low point when you have to pull for the ducks. ugh.

I will not deny the fact that UNC got some calls their way......but thats not the reason UNC won....they won because USC completely withered under pressure....

you like arguing don't you??? I would think the sunny weather of Florida would make you a happier person...I know today I was the happiest I have been in a while because it finally was warm....

anyways, my point isn't arguing about UNC getting calls, they clearly got the calls....but a good team with a double digit lead would not allow the refs to lose it for them...that is my point

I hate UNC and Duke equally....just thought you should know

thepostman wrote:I will not deny the fact that UNC got some calls their way......but thats not the reason UNC won....they won because USC completely withered under pressure....

you like arguing don't you??? I would think the sunny weather of Florida would make you a happier person...I know today I was the happiest I have been in a while because it finally was warm....

anyways, my point isn't arguing about UNC getting calls, they clearly got the calls....but a good team with a double digit lead would not allow the refs to lose it for them...that is my point

I hate UNC and Duke equally....just thought you should know

Just because I practice healthy debate doesn't mean I'm unhappy. The main reason i really posted this was for all the duke conspiracy theorists to challenge my claim and state the same points you did, so I could throw it back in there face when they started using the tired "Duke gets all the calls" line. I guess you could say I was venting but I also had a creative alterior motive

well, i see where your coming from hoops, and i am glad you brought it up. I'm so tired of hearing duke gets all the calls, its good to see someone point out that unc gets calls too. i agree that it is not the reason unc won, but it isn't the reason duke wins either! so... good point hoops

I love ruining the whole Duke/UNC debates....because I hate hearing about it all the time....so I feel as if I have accomplished something tonight by doing so

I hope you do realize Duke gets their share of calls....but I am not to the point where I think there is this mass conspiracy by the NCAA to have UNC or Duke win...this will be proven when unc loses to Georgetown...Georgetown is who I picked as National Champion....so yeah

anyways....i think you like causing conflict....but its alright....its kind of fun......for a while

hey, i'm not the only one saying it- all the analysts on espn agreed with. And speaking of georgetown, that walk at the end was pretty obvious, but i'm not complaining because I think they have a better chance at dethroning the tar "hells"

UNC got a few calls....but UNC played nasty and came back to win.....Dook is whole other story and everyone can atleast agree they get the calls

hoopsmalone wrote:this 20-3 run is the result of some of the worst calls and non-calls i've ever seen. Did anyone just see that blatent goaltending by hansborough? The refs are simply looking the other way. What a load of crap.

Do you want some cheese to go with that whine?

You Dook apologist, there were a lot of no calls on both sides, I watched the game -- There were times when Hansborough was getting hit harder than a girl at lacrosse party.

It's not UNC's fault they are a FAR deeper team than USC (to the point where USC had used SIX players in the game when their big guy went down). The same thing happened during the MSU game against Carolina, the other team ran out of gas.

Don't blame UNC for that.

please go away hoops! USC choked that game away more than the refs gave it to UNC. I THOUGHT YOU SAMFORD GRADS WERE A BIT MORE INTELLIGENT!

bigsmooth wrote:please go away hoops! USC choked that game away more than the refs gave it to UNC. I THOUGHT YOU SAMFORD GRADS WERE A BIT MORE INTELLIGENT!

Thats what I was trying to say!! USC had such a huge lead that it should not have mattered!!!!!!!!!..

hoopsmalone wrote:usc gets no and-1 calls and unc never got called for any over the backs.

GMTM or Haize will tell you there is no such thing as that type of call.

we've had this argument before

about 7,364 times

Blame that one on Tim Floyd. the 4th foul on Gibson was a tough foul and took the wind out of USC sails.

the heels were down 16 points in the second half. i saw the game. UNC woke up in time. They were much more physical and aggressive in the second half and that propelled them to the win. Give UNC credit for crying out loud. Hoopsalone you got a lot of gull trashing UNC when your team lost in the first round.

"hoopsalone" that's pretty creative. I love the UVA fan simply telling me to "go away". The Lacrosse joke was so original and hilarious, especially when you consider that the entire case is about to be thrown out. Sportscritic- How does Duke's first round failure even relate to my point in any way?T That doesn't change the fact that the refs made some terrible calls and/or no calls.
Anyway, unlike certain posters I won't resort to the childish name-calling and referring to unrelated incidents.
For the record, i'm certainly not alone on this one. I admit, post headline was designed to draw interest, but I'm really not even trashing UNC, i'm trashing the officiating. I can't blame UNC for the incompetence of the refs.
All three analysts on gamenight said his fourth foul was ticky-tack and UNC was able to dominate the boards once he was out.If Hansborough had been in the same situation, you would be in here complaining the other way.
The bottom line is that refs are favoring the rallying teams, and the refs also missed an obvious travel at the conclusion of the georgetown game. If you don't believe me, watch the ESPN highlights and,as Ronald Reagan once said, "don't be afraid to see what you see"
I'm simply amused by the fact that the same group of people who are so quick to question the refs' integrity whenever duke plays are the first to rush to unc's defense when i make the EXACT SAME claim about the tar heels. And if any of you honest think I honestly care about third-grade name-calling tactics, don't waste your time. I will always call em like i see em, even if that requires the ruffling of a few feathers.

the thing is most rational people agree the refs were terrible....but if you are USC you can't put the blame on anybody but yourself when you are up by 16 freaking points you CAN NOT blame the refs...I can understand if it was a close game throughout....but it wasn't....

you are a duke fan hoops. you have nothing better to do after your team failed to start crying over a game and the referees "blowing" the game for USC to lose. Give UNC some credit for coming out and playing up to their capabilities in the second half. USC blew that game not the referees.

well...if you want to be completely objective USC completely disappeared...yes unc played better in the second half...but USC let the refs get in their heads and gave this game away....but you have to give UNC credit for being more aggressive, that is what won them that game....but you also have to admit if you are unc fan that usc completely fell apart as well....

thesportscritic wrote:you are a duke fan hoops. you have nothing better to do after your team failed to start crying over a game and the referees "blowing" the game for USC to lose. Give UNC some credit for coming out and playing up to their capabilities in the second half. USC blew that game not the referees.

wow, i wasn't aware the you had complete control of my schedules and obligations. lol. I didn't know you had a copy of my daily calendar there mr sportscritic, i mean, mr. omniscient.

hoopsmalone wrote:

thesportscritic wrote:you are a duke fan hoops. you have nothing better to do after your team failed to start crying over a game and the referees "blowing" the game for USC to lose. Give UNC some credit for coming out and playing up to their capabilities in the second half. USC blew that game not the referees.

wow, i wasn't aware the you had complete control of my schedules and obligations. lol. I didn't know you had a copy of my daily calendar there mr sportscritic, i mean, mr. omniscient.

HOOPS I am an OFFICIALS fan. You said that the "analysts" said it was a ticky tack foul. That begs 2 points: What experience, other than watching, do the analysts have in officiating? And they said it was a "ticky tack" foul, they didn't say it WASN"t a foul.
As for the Georgetown travel, that was discussed in the other thread. He DID NOT TRAVEL ON THE SHOT. The announcers were TOTALLY offbase with their rules interpretation.
For the umpteenth time their is no foul for "going over the back". Good grief, next you'll be complaining that the refs weren't tossing the ball up after every made basket!!! (It is in the original rules, FYI)
Ref's miss calls. No denying that. BUT fortune favors those who are more assertive and take the ball to the rack.