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By PAmedic
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sorry if I missed this one already

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/s ... id=2747455

Big South kings draw Missouri State on the road
By Kyle Whelliston

Special to ESPN.com
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ROCK HILL, S.C. -- On Saturday night, exactly 48 hours before the BracketBusters pairing selections, Winthrop head coach Gregg Marshall could be found wandering in a sea of cars, searching the Winthrop Coliseum parking lot for his black Acura.

"How many wins do I have to get in order to get my own parking space around here?" joked Marshall, repeatedly pressing buttons on his key fob.

If you're counting, Marshall has won a grand total of 182 games in eight and a half years at Winthrop. The Eagles' 2006-07 victory total stands at 17 against four losses (all to Top 25 teams), with a perfect 7-0 record in Big South conference play. That seventh league win had occurred earlier that afternoon, a hard-fought 65-63 nail-chomper over in-state rival Coastal Carolina, a team that swept Winthrop last regular season and played the Eagles to within a point of their lives in a 51-50 championship game a year ago.

But the reason why it took Marshall 10 minutes to find his car on Saturday was due to the fact that the Eagles' basketball sellout total now stands at one. For the first time ever, all the seats in the Coliseum were taken, filled with screaming fans wearing gold and red "Beat Coastal" shirts and wildly waving every piece of loose paper and fabric they could find. A decade ago, insects outnumbered fans at Winthrop games, but six league championships and several NCAA near-misses later, there isn't a place to sit or park.


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Winthrop star Torrell Martin is expected back in mid-February, hopefully by the clash with Missouri State.
"Nine years we've invested in this," said Marshall. "If it were a business, it's a stock that should have been bought in 1998 or 1999. It's a validation of what our program is, and what it's become."

What Winthrop has become is the Big South's signature school, a small-conference juggernaut with national name recognition. But with all that lofty loftiness comes the burden of sky-high expectations: anything less than breezing through the league schedule is a red-flagged disappointment. The team's recent performance (three games -- at Radford, at High Point and versus CCU -- won by a combined six points), as well as its bare survival against Coastal last March, has caused many to wonder if the Eagles are dangerously close to falling from the Big South sky.

"It's conference play," explained Marshall. "Obviously, the familiarity teams have for each other is so much greater. Sometimes you just have to gut out wins, find a way. Before we beat them [64-63 on Jan. 25], High Point was undefeated at their place and had won 15 in a row … it's just a hard place to play. We just gutted that one out."

But the biggest reason why the Eagles have had to gut things out recently is sheer attrition. A foot injury to their leading scorer, 6-5 senior guard Torrell Martin (14.9 ppg), has denied them access to an array of jumpers and 3-pointers that nearly took down North Carolina in a 25-point performance back on Nov. 15. Martin hasn't played since going down after seven minutes in a home win against VMI on Jan. 16, and isn't expected to return until mid-February.

"We're down to bare bones," said Marshall. "We made a decision early on to redshirt three freshmen … soon we were down to 10 scholarship players. Torrell Martin goes down, [redshirt freshman forward] Mantoris Robinson hurts his knee, that's eight. Then tonight, [junior forward] Taj McCullough gets his lip busted by an elbow and has to get that tended to … seven. Then [junior guard] Antwon Harris takes four fouls. I don't have much left."



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Gregg Marshall has built Winthrop into a mid-major power.The NCAA Tournament selection committee may allow some leniency for injury matters, but there's no denying the Eagles' razor-thin margin for error in the one-bid Big South. They were able to take care of nonconference business against teams like Old Dominion, Mississippi State and East Carolina, but couldn't close the deal against a single one of the power-conference high-RPI teams they played: North Carolina (currently No. 2), Wisconsin (No. 3), Maryland (No. 27) or Texas A&M (No. 23). That's a major reason why Winthrop languishes at No. 73 in the RPI and doesn't have a seat at the table in the national at-large discussion.

"C'mon, are we really the 73rd-best team in the country?" declared Marshall. "If you're judging us by the RPI, we have no chance. But we chose this schedule, we did what we could do. Against North Carolina, we were up 12 in the second half. In the Wisconsin game [an 82-79 loss], we were the better team. Texas A&M was very, very good, and Maryland handled us. But you're talking about potential Sweet 16 [teams] there."

And that's why BracketBusters is so important to a team like Winthrop -- it's one last chance to improve and polish an NCAA résumé against an evenly matched opponent, one last opportunity to make a case in front of Hoops Nation and the selection committee.

But if there's anyone who knows how important January play is in obtaining one of those choice TV spots, it's Gregg Marshall. Last season, the Eagles found themselves in a very similar position: four nonconference losses, a 6-0 league record and in desperate need of an RPI boost. But five days before the pairing announcement, Coastal Carolina beat them by five at the Winthrop Coliseum; Winthrop was relegated to the non-TV portion of the BracketBusters schedule. While their homestanding 98-97 overtime thriller over MAC representative Northern Illinois certainly was exciting, hardly anyone got to see it. A 23-7 Winthrop team ended up as a 15th seed at the NCAA's, although it nearly beat Tennessee when it got there.

After the Coastal revenge victory, Marshall was daydreaming of a much better matchup than last year's.

"I'd love to play VCU, that's somewhere we can drive to," Marshall said when asked for his preferences. "Or Hofstra. Or maybe even Butler … that's a direct flight. But [CCU head coach] Buzz [Peterson] told my beat writer before the game that we already drew Marist [MAAC, 15-6, RPI No. 133]. I don't think so."

While Peterson's speculation may just have been a sly mini-jab in what's become the Big South's best rivalry, Marshall chose not to snipe back -- instead, he put the Worldwide Leader on notice.

"I'll tell you what," Marshall said with a laugh, finger wagging. "If we don't get a TV game, you're going to have to pull me off some ESPN executive, first one I can find!"


* * *
When Monday rolled around, Winthrop received its BracketBusters travel destination: the Hammons Center in Springfield, Mo., home of the Missouri State Bears -- a 15-win team that's currently 6-5 in the tough and parity-driven Missouri Valley Conference, with a No. 39 RPI. By not repeating their January loss to Coastal Carolina from a year ago, the Eagles had earned the right to show a national audience what they could do as a participant in one of the 14 televised contests.

Upon hearing the matchup, Marshall took a deep breath, absorbed the news and scoured his internal database for "Missouri State."

"We saw them on tape early in the year when we were scouting for Wisconsin," said Marshall of his BracketBusters opponent. "And I know they beat Wisconsin [66-64 on Nov. 20]. I know it's a tough place to play, and I know about [MVC sixth-leading scorer] Blake Ahearn and how hot he can be shooting the ball. Hopefully, we'll have our own hot shooter, Torrell, back in time."

It promises to be a good, even, seesaw matchup: Missouri State's nationally ranked shooting and offensive efficiency will test Winthrop's nationally ranked defensive efficiency, while the Eagles' front line of 6-8 Phillip Williams and 6-10 Craig Bradshaw likely will force the issue for the Bears in the paint. But before Winthrop can prepare for the game itself, the Eagles are going to have to figure out how to get there.

"Travelwise, it's not what you want at this point in the season," said Marshall. "There aren't any direct flights. We're going to have to fly somewhere … St. Louis? Then we'll have to find a charter to take us the rest of the way, or something."

Then again, in the quest for mid-major glory, one must bear many vehicle-related issues -- whether it's a bus rental far from home on BracketBusters Saturday, or the lack of an assigned parking spot outside your home gym.

"Still working on that one," said Marshall. "But these are all good problems to have."

Kyle Whelliston is the founder of midmajority.com and is a regular contributor to ESPN.com.
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By El Scorcho
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Big South kings...
Good to see that ESPN has already crowned them.
ROCK HILL, S.C. -- On Saturday night, exactly 48 hours before the BracketBusters pairing selections, Winthrop head coach Gregg Marshall could be found wandering in a sea of cars, searching the Winthrop Coliseum parking lot for his black Acura.

"How many wins do I have to get in order to get my own parking space around here?" joked Marshall, repeatedly pressing buttons on his key fob.
Boo hoo hoo. Poor little guy can't find his Acura. So sad. Crybaby
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By PAmedic
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one sport wonders. :roll:

how's that FB program coming along? 8)

(Sorry WEF, that old one is all I got- I know, I'm slipping. Need to work on my creativity :mrgreen: )
By ATrain
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Lemme know when ya'll hang a Sweet 16 banner in the Colisseum (ok ok...I know, ours is for WOMEN'S bball, but still...its the first and only one in the Big South) :P
By krh44
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This is on now in case anyone is interested
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By Fumblerooskies
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On Saturday night, exactly 48 hours before the BracketBusters pairing selections, Winthrop head coach Gregg Marshall could be found wandering in a sea of cars, searching the Winthrop Coliseum parking lot for his black Acura.

"How many wins do I have to get in order to get my own parking space around here?" joked Marshall, repeatedly pressing buttons on his key fob.
What a loser...
...what kind of moron forgets where he parks and loses his car :roll:
By givemethemic
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Winthrop can pretty much seal the deal here... Up 71-60 with a min to go
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By Fumblerooskies
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You heard it announced for all the nation to hear...
...on ESPN2 with about a minute to go in the game...

THE NEXT GREAT COACH IN THE COUNTRY...
...GREGG MARSHALL
By Realist
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WU put it on them in a major way. Now the at large is open. If we play the way we did tonight though, it's going to be the Big South beat down the rest of the way.
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By Fumblerooskies
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Realist wrote:WU put it on them in a major way. Now the at large is open. If we play the way we did tonight though, it's going to be the Big South beat down the rest of the way.
Good luck to your guys in the quest for the ever-elusive unbeaten season in the Big South...
...as much as it pains me, it would be good for the league for you guys to win out, including the tournament.
By Realist
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Wow, Espn gamenight did about a 5-7 minute story on winthrop leading off. Marshall interviewed, and Gottlieb saying WU is a lock for at large if they win out in the regular season. Don't know about that, but nice press.
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By Cider Jim
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Winthrop Handles Missouri State in O'Reilly ESPNU BracketBusters Friday Night, 77-66
Winthrop 77, Missouri State 66

Michael Jenkins scored a game-high 25 points and connected on seven 3-point field goals to lead Winthrop to a key 77-66 victory over Missouri State in the O’Reilly ESPNU BracketBuster game Friday night before a national television audience. Winthrop improves to 23-4 as they will return home for its final regular season home game on Tuesday, Feb. 20, as the Eagles host High Point on Senior Night with a chance to clinch the regular season Big South Conference championship. Missouri State, a top 40 RPI team out of the powerful Missouri Valley Conference, dropped to 19-7. Joining Jenkins in double figures were Craig Bradshaw with 16, Chris Gaynor, 11, and Torrell Martin, 10. Jenkins led a 50-point second half offensive explosion after drawing Winthrop to within one point at halftime (28-27) with a 30-foot buzzer beater with four-tenths of a second on the game clock. After a jittery first half shooting performance in which it shot just 38 percent, Winthrop made its shots count in the second period, connecting on 64 percent. Meanwhile, the Eagle defense held the nation’s 10th best 3-point shooting team, that featured four starters shooting better than 40 percent from behind the arc, to just 22 percent (6-27) from long distance. Behind its own red-hot three-point shooting night, the Eagles connected on 14 of 26 (53.8) from behind the arc and extended their season winning streak to 13 in a row. For the game Winthrop connected on 22 of 41 field goals (53.7) and had one of its best free throw shooting performances in a long while going 19 of 22 (86.4) after entering the game hitting just 61 percent. Missouri State held a 28-27 first-half lead but Winthrop took the lead for good on its first basket of the second half, a 3-pointer by Bradshaw. With Missouri State trailing 41-37 with 12:53 left, Winthrop took off on a 25-14 run, led by Jenkins with 13, to push ahead to a 66-51 lead with 4:08 left on Chris Gaynor’s steal and layup. Missouri State made its first 3-pointer in the second half with 37.5 seconds left and made just two of 14 for the half for 14.3 percent. A basket by Devon Mitchell with 1:44 left cut Winthrop's lead to 69-60 but Winthrop hit six of seven free throws and a basket by Antwon Harris to close out the game.
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By jcmanson
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I was very impressed by Winthrop in this game. They played extremely well, and were always able to answer Mo St.'s challenge. Good win and good publicity for Winthrop and the Big South.
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By PAmedic
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CAVEAT: I will deny ever having written any of this. And will pay SLY to destroy the evidence if need be.

***

I saw the vast majority of the game. The outcome was never in doubt.

Winthrop looked very, very good. MO St had no answer for them, Bradshaw and Taj owned the lane. I don't think the Bears EVER had a successful or easy look inside.

Add to that some quick hands out front (WU with several very nice steals) and it wasn't as close as it appeared at times, IMHO. I'd have to agree with the announcers when they said that NO TEAM wants to see Winthrop on the schedule right now.

Props to WU :oops:

***

and now I'm going to go vomit. :banghead
the fact that we are unable to get to the level of this women's teacher's school makes me absolutely crazy Crybaby
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By WinthropEagleFan
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Wow...Medic with compliments for WU? I never thought I'd see the day.
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By PAmedic
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:nod

note- it was begrudging admiration.

your guys really did look solid in every aspect last night, and- as a sports fan- I have to give credit where credit is due.

I would like to see them matched up against the likes of a higher caliber ACC team.
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By PAmedic
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ok- thanks to this thread, I hate you guys again :lol:

http://www.winthropfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=2840

oh- and this is quite possibly the funniest thing I've seen in a while:
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ummm. yeah. I'm betting MOST conferences want to add a school that has 5000 kids and NO FOOTBALL TEAM :roll:
By ATrain
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They could always go to the ASUN...but their conference schedule would have a new look every 2/3/4 years.
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By WinthropEagleFan
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I don't see where WU would go if they wanted to leave, so I don't ever bring it up...without football, the options are very limited...
By Realist
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PAmedic wrote:ok- thanks to this thread, I hate you guys again :lol:

http://www.winthropfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=2840

oh- and this is quite possibly the funniest thing I've seen in a while:
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ummm. yeah. I'm betting MOST conferences want to add a school that has 5000 kids and NO FOOTBALL TEAM :roll:

This is opposed to Liberty with no football and basketball team? :) It's just as amusing as you guys talking about it :roll:
By SuperJon
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I think most people with half a brain at Liberty know that the Big South is the only place for us, and that we need to do whatever we can to make what we have better. We can't afford a bigger and better house across town, so we're forced to try to renovate this one and make it bigger and better where it is currently.

The only problem is, LU, WU, and CCU (and HPU's getting there) are the only schools that even halfway care about athletics.
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By horrez
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WinthropEagleFan wrote:Wow...Medic with compliments for WU? I never thought I'd see the day.
I always thought Medic was a closet Winthrop fan. :clapping :P
PAmedic wrote:ummm. yeah. I'm betting MOST conferences want to add a school that has 5000 kids and NO FOOTBALL TEAM
I don't know how many kids they have, but I do know not having a football team hasn't kept Duke from playing in a pretty good conference. :lol:
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By PAmedic
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touche' 8)

actually thought one of you guys was gonna break out Gonzaga on me.

5000 kids, no FB
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By PAmedic
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I'm sorry. I just can't help myself:
winthropgirl wrote:On ESPN2 last night, one of the sportscasters mentioned that Winthrop could be as high as a 9 or 10 seed in the tourney. I would be surprised if they don't crack the sweet 16 this year. They'll definitely get that one win, though.
:BS

http://www.winthropfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=2858

our "drinkers" have nothing on her. I'm not saying its an impossiblity- I've already admitted (against my better judgement :wink: ) that they look great and are probably a legitimate threat to any team out there- but thats a FAR CRY from being surprised if they DON'T crack the sweet 16 :shock: Considering the fact that they've YET to win a game in the tourney.

and yes, I wish we had their success this year.
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