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#53850
Holy cow...
...never saw this coming.
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The possibility for a football team at LC
Aaron Strong
Issue date: 1/18/07 Section: Sports


The lines on Shellenberger Field were barely laid when Dr. Garren asked the faculty and staff to start on another project that will greatly affect athletics at Lynchburg College. Last semester Dr. Garren proposed a taskforce to study the feasibility of a football program at Lynchburg.

According to Steve Arnold, the Associate Vice President for College Relations the idea for a football team came up over the course of natural discussion (between board members and the administration).

Both Arnold and Dean of Residence Life John Eccles were quick to say the feasibility of the project will be critical in determining whether or not the college will field a football team.

The taskforce will be delving into issues such as costs, possible revenue from the football team, and the support of students, alumni and parents.

An area of concern to be studied is the role Title IX will play in the addition of another all-male team. The purpose of Title IX is to forbid discrimination on the basis of gender. Currently funding for male and female sports is equal to the proportion of males to females at Lynchburg. If athletics are expanded to include football; more money will need to be spent on female sports.

"You can be assured that we will be in compliance with Title IX. I have always made sure we were (and are) in compliance," Dr. Jack Toms, Director of Athletics, said.

Eccles maintains the student body will not change greatly.

"We still believe that we would not grow any larger than a total head count of 2,500," Eccles said.

Arnold agreed with the sentiment.

"No specific targets with respect to minorities or to the general student body [have been made]," Arnold said.

Eccles did mention there might be a slight gain in the amount of minority students.

"[It] would certainly be a positive aspect," Eccles said.

Toms does believe some recruiting would have to take place in order to field a football team, but also acknowledges some students already at Lynchburg may be interested in playing.

"I think football is a huge drawing card…I am sure recruiting will have to take place," Toms said.

Critics of a football program at Lynchburg may be swayed when they find out that Eccles has stated admission fees would never cover the cost of the program, so would probably not be used.

"We do not endorse the concept of robbing Peter to pay Paul," Eccles said.

By saying this he means money from academics would never be used to pay for an athletic program.

"Football is a rallying force for many colleges," Arnold said.

The taskforce will have to determine if football will do the same here at Lynchburg. Students and alumni interviewed believe football will be that "rallying force."

Stephanie Myers, '06, is excited at the possibility of having football at Lynchburg.

"Personally, I have never been to a lacrosse game," Myers said. "[But I] went to almost every home football game in high school."

Myers said that she would have done the same if Lynchburg had football during her tenure here.

"Football would be a great thing. I think there would be a lot of fan support and it would help bring the students together more and give them something to do," Freshman Jon DeMaio said.

Junior Ashlee Ayers, who has attended UVA football games, said she would be really excited if we were to have an LC football team.

"It is great to have so many students coming out to support their football team," Ayers said.

Toms believes the college atmosphere on Saturday's could change if a football program is added, allowing the hopes of these students to come to fruition.

With some reservation, senior Charles Shaw said he would like to see a football program at Lynchburg. He does not think it's feasible without more school-owned space and he does not know if the school is willing to make the kinds of actions to create the space for a football program. He cites the control Lynchburg College officials seem to want over their students and their timidity in losing it.

"The only way I see that (creation of more school-owned space) being possible is if the school tears down all the houses it owns, but it would cause the school to lose control," Shaw said.

Other than this issue, Shaw believes that football is an exciting prospect for Lynchburg College.

Lynchburg College officials are interested in retaining their students and this newest venture between the faculty/staff and board of trustees shows their commitment to the students.

"There are advantages to having a football team. They add to the social climate by adding another sport that students can enjoy and support. The happier students are with their experience the more likely they are to stay and graduate," Eccles said.
By Hold My Own
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I thought they already approved it. Guess they're still trying to figure out how much money they'll lose...cause they will, its just a matter of how much.
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By El Scorcho
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Good for them.

Now if they can keep enough of their kids sober enough to regularly make it to practice and play, I'll be shocked.
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By bigsmooth
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if schools like averett, shenandoah, and north carolina wesleyan with much smaller endowments amd resources can field D3 programs why not LC? good for them!
By Hold My Own
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anyone recall their antics back when we used to play them in soccer?

They even threw bananas at our Goalie (maybe from south Africa, cant remember) so I guess what your saying is justified El
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By El Scorcho
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I'm only saying it based on the experiences of some friends of mine who lived on Bell St., right next to the school. Friday and Saturday nights always seemed like it was a block party down there.
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By jcmanson
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Good for them.
By thepostman
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good for them...as for the partying thing, i mean they party over there, but its nothing compared to a lot of others...like Virginia Tech when I stayed there a couple days...it put LC to shame...
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By Fumblerooskies
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I am suprised...
...usually football is added to help increase enrollment. That is not an issue at LC.
By ATrain
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The major question is...if this happens, does LC replace the D-IIs we've been playing for our home opener?
By Libertine
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LC would be D3. Belchers' Boys might open up with them. :P
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By PAmedic
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I still have eligibility left- maybe I can kick for LC :D

can D III's award schollies?
By Libertine
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D3 = 0 scholarships.
Every coach I've ever talked to that's coached at the D3 level hated it b/c they had no way of enforcing policy. After all, if a kid broke the rules, what could you do to him? Take his scholarship away?
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By PAmedic
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darn. so much for my aspirations. thanks for crushing my dream
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By El Scorcho
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Don't give up yet. I'm sure you can find some scholarships for little people. Dwarves may even help the school meet some kind of diversity goals, which could also be a scholarship.

:lol:
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By PAmedic
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El Scorcho wrote:Don't give up yet. I'm sure you can find some scholarships for little people. Dwarves may even help the school meet some kind of diversity goals, which could also be a scholarship.

:lol:
you are all so very kind. :oops: (sniff, sniff)

and helpful.

I just dont' know where I'd be today without all your support :roll:
By ATrain
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We're always here for ya man, always
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By fsn32
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D3 Football at a private school makes money... that's why Birmingham So added it when they dropped to D3.

60 Football players x $30,000 (tuition, room and board) = 1.8 million dollars = make money.

Maybe LC could add 60 students regardless... but in the brain of a sports minded AD, it certaily justifies it... more pub too.
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By Sly Fox
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From the fishwrap:
LC looking into football

By Chris Humphreys
Lynchburg News & Advance
March 6, 2007


Lynchburg College is exploring the possibility of fielding a football team after a lengthy layoff.

The board of trustees has formalized a task force of faculty, staff, students and trustees to conduct a study to determine the feasibility of putting the pads on and taking the field again.

"The topic has been informally discussed for several months," Associate Vice President for College Relations Steve Arnold said. "It's been talked about for years and President (Kenneth) Garren had been asked why we didn't have football so many times in his five years that he took the question to the board of trustees and they formalized a task force to look into it."

The task force is consulting Hampden-Sydney athletic director Joe Bush and examining a couple of potential models, including Shenandoah University, which added football in 2000.

"We are sorting through the pros and cons," Arnold said. "We are looking at the start up costs versus the ongoing benefits."

Some of the startup costs would include facilities, equipment and travel expenses.

The task force's goal is to prepare a non-binding recommendation for the Board of Trustees' meeting on May 18.

"It's still early," Arnold said. "It's just a feasibility study. We are just looking at the possibility of adding football. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds."

The college sent out an e-mail to alumni asking for their input on Tuesday.
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By LUconn
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awww, LC is so cute.
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By bigsmooth
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Like i said earlier is schools like averett and shenandoah which are smaller than LC can have football so can those guys. why not? it would be good for them and lynchburg.
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By Fumblerooskies
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My son goes to LC...
...and I just don't get the need for football there. Enrollment is not an issue, but if they want a sure-fire way to lure an extra 75-100 students on campus, it makes financial sense.

Figure it costs about 31K for R+B+T, and you are potentially looking at an additional $3 million coming in, every year. Not a bad investment.
By Hold My Own
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I've never heard of a school (at any level) starting a football team to make money...create a better school atmosphere yes, more prestige yeh...but I've never heard of a school starting one to make money...and even if they show me a budget that proves they're making money then I've venture to say not everything made it on there and there are a few costs that got moved....I just personally dont see it
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By Sly Fox
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Actually fumbles is not far off. In non-scholarship football, travel costs are your biggest factor. IF you can find enough nearby schools to schedule then its not realy a burden. And when you consider the income from student costs, it can break even or even make a few bucks.
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By Fumblerooskies
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Between all the ODAC FNSCD schools and the USA South FNSCD schools, scheduling should be a breeze.
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