A Sea Of Red

Keep in mind that this is not yet a court ruling. It is a temporary injuction to keep Pavia and every other player with JUCO on their transcripts eligible until the final ruling is rendered.

Interesting

I hope congress, President Trump or someone cracks down on the destruction of college sports.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2024, 3:49 pm I hope congress, President Trump or someone cracks down on the destruction of college sports.

Too late. SAD

This will have major implications if the courts do rule that attendance at JUCOs can't be used to count against eligibility.

If JUCOs end up not counting towards eligibility, that could have a real negative effect on lower levels of D1 and going into D2 and D3 while being a big recruiting tool for the JUCOs. I can see a lot of kids, especially ones who don't have any D1 offers (or only have what they perceive as undesirable D1 offers), electing to go the JUCO route to improve their stock after a year or two, then transfer to D1 with four years of eligibility.

Now the route is take the the crappy D1 offer or go D2/D3 and transfer later with anywhere from only 1-3 years of eligibility left. But if you can go JUCO for a year or two and still have 4 years of eligibility left? That becomes a lot more attractive of an offer, especially for those that don't have full athletic scholarship offers.

Some will still find out that they aren't in any better position than they were before as far as getting the types of D1 offers they dreamed about (sorry buddy, not everyone is good enough to play in the SEC, B1G, ACC, etc!), but even then they still have four years of eligibility left to use at a lesser D1 or in D2/D3. So if they end up deciding to do grad school, they can play as grad students without having to get any type of waiver or eligibility extension.

I wonder if this ruling could be extended to players at a 4 year school but who are participating in a JV football program. If so, does that bring back JV football to a lot of schools? Do any schools still have JV?

NCAA is on fast track to destroy college sports.

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑December 24th, 2024, 1:13 pm NCAA is on fast track to destroy college sports.

Pay attention. This was not the NCAA's doing. It was the court that decided in Pavia's favor.

Not a fan of this, even though it could potentially help some of our teams short term. It will pretty much put to rest any conception that athletics and academics are concurrent at the NCAA level. JUCU players will continue to bring a bunch of credits with them. As things stand now, with athletes attending all summer school sessions, most incoming HS grads get their undergrad degree in 3 years and either have, or are well on their way to a masters in 4. If you add in those JUCO credits, what will they be studying the last 2 years (3 if they redshirt)?

Ain’t this basically what prep schools were for one year, but now it could be up to two? Don’t have the offer you want, so go prep/Juco to get right and try to get that offer (aka. “Bag”) thereafter.

The NCAA is going to have to decide when their clock starts. Or more specifically when to change it. If we’ve learned anything about the NCAA over the last decade, it’s that once the courts are involved they will do whatever it takes to not get sued.

@ballcoach15 It is not the NCAA’s job to keep the college athletics static to the 1970’s. Times change. People change.

This will be a boon for JUCO’s, and after a few years not much else will change. Kids will just take a couple more years to make their decision. And you’ll
have a bunch of 25yo’s in college. And maybe shorter NFL careers that started later.

What about players that go to NAIA schools? Will it be treated like the JUCO? Are the years in NAIA will not count in NCAA?

Some appear to want 25-30 year olds playing college sports. NCAA and liberal judges.

JK37 wrote: ↑December 24th, 2024, 3:07 pm Ain’t this basically what prep schools were for one year, but now it could be up to two? Don’t have the offer you want, so go prep/Juco to get right and try to get that offer (aka. “Bag”) thereafter.

The NCAA is going to have to decide when their clock starts. Or more specifically when to change it. If we’ve learned anything about the NCAA over the last decade, it’s that once the courts are involved they will do whatever it takes to not get sued.

@ballcoach15 It is not the NCAA’s job to keep the college athletics static to the 1970’s. Times change. People change.

This will be a boon for JUCO’s, and after a few years not much else will change. Kids will just take a couple more years to make their decision. And you’ll
have a bunch of 25yo’s in college. And maybe shorter NFL careers that started later.

The difference is that it's pretty hit or miss as to prep school courses transferring to a university, whereas if you finish a 2 year JUCO course and get your associate degree, those credits are almost universally accepted.

olldflame wrote: ↑December 25th, 2024, 1:38 pm

JK37 wrote: ↑December 24th, 2024, 3:07 pm Ain’t this basically what prep schools were for one year, but now it could be up to two? Don’t have the offer you want, so go prep/Juco to get right and try to get that offer (aka. “Bag”) thereafter.

The NCAA is going to have to decide when their clock starts. Or more specifically when to change it. If we’ve learned anything about the NCAA over the last decade, it’s that once the courts are involved they will do whatever it takes to not get sued.

@ballcoach15 It is not the NCAA’s job to keep the college athletics static to the 1970’s. Times change. People change.

This will be a boon for JUCO’s, and after a few years not much else will change. Kids will just take a couple more years to make their decision. And you’ll
have a bunch of 25yo’s in college. And maybe shorter NFL careers that started later.

The difference is that it's pretty hit or miss as to prep school courses transferring to a university, whereas if you finish a 2 year JUCO course and get your associate degree, those credits are almost universally accepted.

So, what? What am I missing? Other than it is Open Business for juco’s. And college grads are gonna be 24 now instead of 22. What’s the big deal?