A Sea Of Red

As for a new name: Gridlock. Which is the only thing that the Washington region is good for.

Not these days! I had to go to DC last week and got there in record time!

TH Spangler wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:15 pm

Purple Haize wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:06 pm I’ve heard “Warriors” being bantied about.

Washington Veterans

I kinda like that

Purple Haize wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:18 pm

TH Spangler wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:15 pm

Purple Haize wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:06 pm I’ve heard “Warriors” being bantied about.

Washington Veterans

I kinda like that

Use a big Ole Glory logo!

Just not a Betsy Ross flag!

Swamp Creatures.

The military card would help soften the blow with the ballcoach type crowd.

Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 4:01 pm Native American nicknames have been getting phased out for 40 years. Were you all this offended when Syracuse, Stanford, and St. John changed their names?

John, you can make this point, but your examples are horrible. Syracuse were called the Orangemen because of Dutch history. St. John's were called the Redmen because, get this, they wore red! Had nothing to do with native americans, but only changed because of "perceived" insensitivity.

thepostman wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:30 pm The military card would help soften the blow with the ballcoach type crowd.

Not gonna lie, Veterans is my favorite. You can do a lot with that. Plus, how can anyone really be upset with it! I mean there will be some for-reasons- but I know want it to be Veterans

I have spoken

Veterans Logo

ALUmnus wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:32 pm

Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 4:01 pm Native American nicknames have been getting phased out for 40 years. Were you all this offended when Syracuse, Stanford, and St. John changed their names?

John, you can make this point, but your examples are horrible. Syracuse were called the Orangemen because of Dutch history. St. John's were called the Redmen because, get this, they wore red! Had nothing to do with native americans, but only changed because of "perceived" insensitivity.

Syracuse used a Native American mascot named Saltine Warrior until 1978.

St. John’s used a Native American mascot named Chief Blackjack until 1994.

You are correct in where the names started originally and the original intent, but they both developed insensitive mascots over time which is why the names were changed.

Purple Haize wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:32 pm

thepostman wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:30 pm The military card would help soften the blow with the ballcoach type crowd.

Not gonna lie, Veterans is my favorite. You can do a lot with that. Plus, how can anyone really be upset with it! I mean there will be some for-reasons- but I know want it to be Veterans

I have spoken

Well it will be something military related, so you may end up being right.

Redtails is the best I’ve seen.

thepostman wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:17 pm Not these days! I had to go to DC last week and got there in record time!

Once agencies reopen their offices (because lets be honest, they're not going to follow the private sector to full-time telework), that'll change.

Cider Jim wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:03 pm

ballcoach15 wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 4:33 pm
None of these are offensive or racist, including REDSKINS.

Ballcoach, how many Native Americans have you interviewed or surveyed to come up with your conclusion?

I have been a REDSKINS fan long enough to not have to interview or survey anyone. The REDSKINS name honors the native Americans.
I just hope relatives of some Old West Cowboys, come forward and call for Dallas to change their name. Based on rationale of liberals, Cowboys are just as offensive as REDSKINS. And don't leave the Tampa Bay Rays. I have a couple relatives named Ray. I find that totally offensive.

I don’t know if “ironic” is the right choice of word, but it is funny. This should have been the first thing they looked at after they decided to change the name.

http://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/se ... rginia-man

that is amazing.

TH Spangler wrote: ↑July 13th, 2020, 5:15 pm
Washington Veterans

Has "Veterans" been suggested by others, or is that original with Spangler? Either way, I love it, even if, ironically, Ballcoach would probably still boycott that name!
I also like "Federals" as a second choice.

@Cider Jim and that is what makes it such an interesting idea. You have some vocal people who are very opposed to dropping the name but if the name is some sort of tribute to the military, it puts those people in a very interesting spot.

If this is the direction they go, it'll be fun as an outsider to see how it plays out.

I doubt they will go with Veterans. Sad as it is, the military is no longer universally popular. I could see some "woke" players protesting, or even boycotting.

The mentioned honoring the military with the name, so something like Veterans is certainly possible.

We must remember that at the end of the day, liberals do not like the military. Snyder could intentionally pick a name that liberals don't like, and I hope he does.

I mentioned this elsewhere. Imma just put all name change stuff here

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... e-must-go/

@ballcoach15, that is debatable but this isn't the place for that debate. Hypothetically speaking, if they did use this as a way to honor the military and did so with a name, would you still support the team?

I'm not a Liberal or Conservative because I believe that rooting for a team in Politics is pointless. Each side has redeemable things and some things that are not worth pursuing. Partisanship calls for support of things that are indefensible and I don't want to be put in that position.

Having said that, Oldflame I genuinely am asking what makes you think Liberals don't support the Military? It is a false narrative. I have seen protests of wars that should not have taken place or the over-use of minority lives in these battles but nobody I have seen has ever protested the actual Military.

Also hero worship of veterans is wrong and flawed. There are guys that are heroes and guys that are committing atrocities. We know because this President has pardoned a few of them. The problem I have in today's politics is that there is not a consensus on what truth even is anymore. Also intellectual honesty is lost. Painting the totality of one side as if the extremists are the norm while ignoring the extremists on your own side and using the best of your own side to represent the entire group.

This us vs them partisanship is horrible. I find it interesting too Oldflame that you suspected the NY Governor Cuomo of possibly cooking the books then mentioned Florida in the very next sentence. Florida has been caught cooking the books! But Cuomo is a Democrat (automatically evil and to be suspected of dishonesty) while DeSantis is a Republican (above reproach and anyone who says otherwise is fake news). I'm picking on Oldflame a bit who I think is a genuinely good dude. My point is we need to start evaluating behaviors without a partisan eye. It would help move our country forward in a ton of areas. Not my guy Oldflame but I suspect some would like to roll back the clock rather than move forward.