- July 14th, 2020, 9:59 am
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Love having you back on the board!
TIMSCAR20 wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 9:17 am I'm not a Liberal or Conservative because I believe that rooting for a team in Politics is pointless. Each side has redeemable things and some things that are not worth pursuing. Partisanship calls for support of things that are indefensible and I don't want to be put in that position.All I said was that the military is not universally popular these days, and I believe that is evident. It's really not a matter of Republican or Democrat. There are more than enough of both parties who never met a war they didn't like. The dig I took at Coumo was just that, not an accusation. As I indicated in my post, I actually believe the current low number of cases in NY is a result of the fact that, much like Italy, Spain and Sweden, so many people in NY have either already had the virus or achieved some sort of secondary immunity by being exposed to it as indicated in the article I linked. I'd be interested in seeing your source re: Florida. As far as I know, the only accusations have come from a disgruntled former employee, and have pretty much been discredited. If DeSantos is cooking the books, he has certainly been doing a bad job of it the last couple of weeks!
Having said that, Oldflame I genuinely am asking what makes you think Liberals don't support the Military? It is a false narrative. I have seen protests of wars that should not have taken place or the over-use of minority lives in these battles but nobody I have seen has ever protested the actual Military.
Also hero worship of veterans is wrong and flawed. There are guys that are heroes and guys that are committing atrocities. We know because this President has pardoned a few of them. The problem I have in today's politics is that there is not a consensus on what truth even is anymore. Also intellectual honesty is lost. Painting the totality of one side as if the extremists are the norm while ignoring the extremists on your own side and using the best of your own side to represent the entire group.
This us vs them partisanship is horrible. I find it interesting too Oldflame that you suspected the NY Governor Cuomo of possibly cooking the books then mentioned Florida in the very next sentence. Florida has been caught cooking the books! But Cuomo is a Democrat (automatically evil and to be suspected of dishonesty) while DeSantis is a Republican (above reproach and anyone who says otherwise is fake news). I'm picking on Oldflame a bit who I think is a genuinely good dude. My point is we need to start evaluating behaviors without a partisan eye. It would help move our country forward in a ton of areas. Not my guy Oldflame but I suspect some would like to roll back the clock rather than move forward.
Love having you back on the board!