[ballcoach15]

Postman, I just read article you shared. I look no farther than the Chairman of that Board and his college. Ohio State will be biggest benefactor of this new rule. If it comes to fruition. The Buckholes may as well put car dealers logo on their uniforms.
A couple comments in the article are very funny, and are basically lies. I can't quote them right now, but I will later, when I'm on a computer, instead of phone.

So if you read the article then you should now know this isn't about schools paying athletes. It is about allowing them to do what every other American can do, make money off of their likeness.

It takes away the shadiness of the stuff that already is going on that gives the Alabamas and Clemnsons of the world an advantage and puts it all out in the open. The backdoor deals that are done opens things up to the criminal world and that isn't good for college athletics or athletes in the long run.

I can get why people are against schools paying athletes a salary but I have never understood why people are against athletes making money on their own from their hard earned success. It seems, to me, goes against what our economy is all about.

Obviously the schools that are already at an advantage will remain being the ones who benefit from this the most but it certainly won't change college athletics as we know it. It simply will give athletes the opportunity to make some money without having to worry about the NCAA getting involved.

I think it will increase the shadiness. Rogue boosters will be able to pay players legally. Once word gets out that car dealers in Ohio pay well, high school recruits will be drawn to "certain schools". Street agents and rogues will be more involved in recruiting than coaches, in many instances. With athletes being able to make money, who will pay them ?
Most payments will take place before the athlete arrives on campus, in my opinion. When NCAA enacts these new rules, I'm guessing probably 90% of all money going to players, will be done illegally, under the table. The 10% will be an attempt to look as if player is being paid legally.
How is an offensive lineman going to feel when he's in the trenches, making nothing, blocking for the "Toyota QB" whose is making 50,000 a game from the local dealer ?
Folks this is a bad rule that NCAA wants to put in place. It is my understanding that most of it was designed by Ohio State. That in itself should be a red flag.

[Purple Haize]

Which tells me Ohio St didn’t have a big say in it

[Jonathan Carone]

It may be your understanding that Ohio State played a big role in shaping it, but like most of your understandings, this one is wrong too.

[TH Spangler]

Postman, I just read article you shared. I look no farther than the Chairman of that Board and his college. Ohio State will be biggest benefactor of this new rule. If it comes to fruition. The Buckholes may as well put car dealers logo on their uniforms.
A couple comments in the article are very funny, and are basically lies. I can't quote them right now, but I will later, when I'm on a computer, instead of phone.

So if you read the article then you should now know this isn't about schools paying athletes. It is about allowing them to do what every other American can do, make money off of their likeness.

It takes away the shadiness of the stuff that already is going on that gives the Alabamas and Clemnsons of the world an advantage and puts it all out in the open. The backdoor deals that are done opens things up to the criminal world and that isn't good for college athletics or athletes in the long run.

I can get why people are against schools paying athletes a salary but I have never understood why people are against athletes making money on their own from their hard earned success. It seems, to me, goes against what our economy is all about.

Obviously the schools that are already at an advantage will remain being the ones who benefit from this the most but it certainly won't change college athletics as we know it. It simply will give athletes the opportunity to make some money without having to worry about the NCAA getting involved.

I hope the folks at chick filet end up being really big liberty fans :

[LU 57]

The details of this are still unclear, and likely will be for a while, but my understanding is that this is not schools providing a salary to players but is allowing players to profit from their likeness. Think sponsorship or marketing, not payroll. Just because the starting QB lands a deal that makes him a few bucks doesn't mean the softball team has to have the same. The sticky area will be in recruiting where one team may align things on behalf of players as a luring tool which I disagree with. IMO nothing should change pre-enrollment, only now permitting personal gain by a student from outside sources and not the university directly. Again, we don't know what this will actually look like but thats my .02.

This will absolutely play into recruiting. Teams like Alabama will work with local car dealers and business leaders and boosters to make sure their football recruits will be lined up with “endorsement deals”. It will absolutely become part of the recruitment pitches

Seems like it would favor larger markets. Bigger car dealerships and restaurant chains can pay more.

[ballcoach15]

It may be your understanding that Ohio State played a big role in shaping it, but like most of your understandings, this one is wrong too.

Which school is Michael Drake and Gene Smith associated with ?

[Jonathan Carone]

All the commentary in this from people who know more than me is saying this statement from the NCAA is all smoke and mirrors and won’t actually change anything.

[Cider Jim]

Seems like it would favor larger markets. Bigger car dealerships and restaurant chains can pay more.

And in Morgantown, the sponors will be bars and trailer parks!

[adam42381]

Burr promises bill to tax scholarships of student athletes who profit off their likenesses

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467 ... profit-off

What a joke. Is he going to tax kids who are on academic scholarships if they somehow profit off their likenesses as well? There’s some undertones to this that I just can’t quite put my finger on...

[ballcoach15]

Seems like it would favor larger markets. Bigger car dealerships and restaurant chains can pay more.

And in Morgantown, the sponors will be bars and trailer parks!

Cider, excellent observation. Plus maybe furniture stores(couches)

[Purple Haize]

Seems like it would favor larger markets. Bigger car dealerships and restaurant chains can pay more.

And in Morgantown, the sponors will be bars and trailer parks!

Lots of money in coal country. Now in Huntington I’m sure there will be many opportunities for Meth sponsorships

[Purple Haize]

The details of this are still unclear, and likely will be for a while, but my understanding is that this is not schools providing a salary to players but is allowing players to profit from their likeness. Think sponsorship or marketing, not payroll. Just because the starting QB lands a deal that makes him a few bucks doesn't mean the softball team has to have the same. The sticky area will be in recruiting where one team may align things on behalf of players as a luring tool which I disagree with. IMO nothing should change pre-enrollment, only now permitting personal gain by a student from outside sources and not the university directly. Again, we don't know what this will actually look like but thats my .02.

This will absolutely play into recruiting. Teams like Alabama will work with local car dealers and business leaders and boosters to make sure their football recruits will be lined up with “endorsement deals”. It will absolutely become part of the recruitment pitches

Seems like it would favor larger markets. Bigger car dealerships and restaurant chains can pay more.

We are talking about individual donors so don’t limit yourself to just restaurants and car dealers. Oklahoma St was a big recipient of cash from T Boone Pickens. Think of all the money donors give to pay Sabans salary. What about the mega amounts of cash Notte Dame fans have? Every school has its 2 or 3 big donors.

[TH Spangler]

Burr promises bill to tax scholarships of student athletes who profit off their likenesses

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/467 ... profit-off

What a joke. Is he going to tax kids who are on academic scholarships if they somehow profit off their likenesses as well? There’s some undertones to this that I just can’t quite put my finger on...

Burr is a Wake forest football alumni ...... he couldn't get in on it.

I bet Tim Tebow wishes he could start again.

[ballcoach15]

Nike will put every Oregon player on payroll.

[Purple Haize]

Nike will put every Oregon player on payroll.

Under Armour will put every Maryland kid on Payroll.

[Jonathan Carone]

There have been a few really hypocritical statements on this from Republican law makers. You've got Burr's tweet from yesterday then this from Romney today:

You don’t want to have a situation where some players are driving around a campus with a Ferrari” he continued: “making a million dollars lording over the other students."

For people who preach free market capitalism, you'd think they'd be all for this.

[cruzan_flame13]

There have been a few really hypocritical statements on this from Republican law makers. You've got Burr's tweet from yesterday then this from Romney today:

You don’t want to have a situation where some players are driving around a campus with a Ferrari” he continued: “making a million dollars lording over the other students."

For people who preach free market capitalism, you'd think they'd be all for this.

It's basically the "I don't want someone to get to a point in which I am or was ever in[at that age." What do these politicians care anyways? Maybe because they're not getting a piece for themselves? The point is that these kids should've had these opportunities with guidance. Possibly push for athletes to take a financial literacy course or something in the notion to be responsible and to think long term. Vision is key!

[ballcoach15]

For once, Romney is correct.

But seriously, who is going to pay these athletes , and what benefit will those shelling out the money gain, other than steering recruits to their favorite school.

[LUDad]

Personally, I am waiting for the first school to begin paying their athletes fair market value for use of their likness and jersey number, etc., on promotional materials, ads, etc. This will happen and it will happen soon. Can't wait for the lawsuits to begin if NCAA objects.

EDIT: In fact, I think I would love to see LU create the precedent.

[Purple Haize]

Personally, I am waiting for the first school to begin paying their athletes fair market value for use of their likness and jersey number, etc., on promotional materials, ads, etc. This will happen and it will happen soon. Can't wait for the lawsuits to begin if NCAA objects.

EDIT: In fact, I think I would love to see LU create the precedent.

I’m not so sure it will be the schools so much as the companies using them to promote product. Using their likeness on media guides programs etc would be a fair exchange. Jersey sales with the players names on it? Something different

[A Sea of Red]

Hugh Freeze and Ritchie McKay have offered their opinions and concerns regarding players benefitting from their name, image and likeness:

https://www.aseaofred.com/hugh-freeze-r ... -likeness/

[ballcoach15]

Combine paying athletes with the NCAA's liberal transfer rules, many Quarterbacks will "enter Free Agency" every season, and sign with highest bidder. This is not good for college sports. Heck even now, Oklahoma, Missouri, Ohio State, among others have starting QBs that left other schools. i.e. Top 5 schools at that.

[thepostman]

Thanks ballcoach for repeating yourself once again without actually explaining why this will be so bad for college sports.

[ballcoach15]

No explanation should be needed. Everyone who knows anything about college sports should know paying players and having liberal transfer rules is a bad idea. This is college, not NFL, NBA or MLB.

[Purple Haize]

No explanation should be needed. Everyone who knows anything about college sports should know paying players and having liberal transfer rules is a bad idea. This is college, not NFL, NBA or MLB.

Seems like a lot of people involved with running college sports thinks it’s a good idea. Seems like the Justice system thinks it’s a good idea as well. But you going right to a logical fallacy argument is so you. Keep up the good work