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Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 7:20 pm
by Purple Haize
jbock13 wrote:
adam42381 wrote:Poop wherever you are want. Problem solved.
This.

Personally, the best thing about being a libertarian is to make everybody upset on every issue. Maybe I enjoy that too much. :)
I just had my 2nd experience sharing a bathroom with the opposite gender. Let's say it was beyond awkward. I don't suffer from stage fright but knowing there is a young girl in the stall next to you is a bit off putting. Can't imagine trying to pinch a loaf!

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 10:10 am
by ALUmnus
So, from what I gather, the main arguments are:

Stupid. This. :exactly

Dumb. This. :nod

Pooping, no big deal. Exactly.

Good engagement guys, you're so close to having me convinced.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 10:45 am
by ballcoach15
I think football goes to Orlando. Baseball to Louisville.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 10:56 am
by adam42381
ALUmnus wrote:So, from what I gather, the main arguments are:

Stupid. This. :exactly

Dumb. This. :nod

Pooping, no big deal. Exactly.

Good engagement guys, you're so close to having me convinced.
We know that you - and a lot of others - aren't going to be convinced. It's like trying to convince PH that Trump is a bad candidate.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 12:53 pm
by Purple Haize
My argument is I know I have used a Public restroom at the same time as someone of the opposite gender who was much younger. I have no idea, but would wager I have, shared a bathroom with a Transgender person

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 2:40 pm
by flamesfilmguy
Baseball will either be in Gwinnett(atlanta) or Jacksonville(where it was previous to Durham). Gwinnett put in a big to host when they moved from Jacksonville several years ago. but they didn't get it. rumor is that those are the two most logical places from a facilities standpoint.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 3:47 pm
by ATrain
ALUmnus wrote:So, from what I gather, the main arguments are:

Stupid. This. :exactly

Dumb. This. :nod

Pooping, no big deal. Exactly.

Good engagement guys, you're so close to having me convinced.
Out of all the sexual assaults that have happened - ever - how many have occurred in co-ed public bathrooms? Its like putting up a "gun free zone," sign at a school and expecting a mass murderer to obey it. HB2 is trying to fix a problem that never needed fixing because it didn't exist.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 4:31 pm
by ALUmnus
ATrain wrote: Out of all the sexual assaults that have happened - ever - how many have occurred in co-ed public bathrooms?
So this is your standard, right? Not only do we have to use the % from the number of sexual assaults *EVER*, but specifically in co-ed public bathrooms.

As a reminder, this is a response to the city of Charlotte changing the law, which would have had consequences and put people in increased danger.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 4:49 pm
by Jonathan Carone
And all of us have said the Charlotte law was stupid too.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 19th, 2016, 3:26 pm
by RubberMallet
BYD pretty much hit it on the head for me. The NCAA is playing sjw here when they have much larger fish to fry in that it seems to openly be ok with sexual abuse. It def is hypocritical.

But also good on NC for standing up for their principals in this. Most other states would of kowtowed to the NCAA. Charlotte made its own bed.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 20th, 2016, 8:41 am
by jbock13
ALUmnus wrote:So, from what I gather, the main arguments are:

Stupid. This. :exactly

Dumb. This. :nod

Pooping, no big deal. Exactly.

Good engagement guys, you're so close to having me convinced.
You don't have to poop on everybody who disagrees with you.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 20th, 2016, 9:38 am
by RubberMallet
he's not really. he's just asking for better arguments.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 20th, 2016, 3:59 pm
by jbock13
You didn't get the joke

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 21st, 2016, 6:20 pm
by LUDad
We have the "stupid" law in NC only because it was needed to correct the "stupid" law passed by the ultra liberal PC city of Charlotte.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 21st, 2016, 6:51 pm
by LUDad
BuryYourDuke wrote:It's not the transgender folks that are the problem. If you are truly trans, no one is going to know you are there. The problem is that there is then no standard at all. I can have a beard, wear men's clothing, and walk into a women's room, and no one can stop me. Why? Because how can they tell me what I identify as today. This is absolute madness. It's not the bathroom issue really (although there are obvious, and already documented issues with sexual predators exploiting this). It's the absolute destruction of any standards regarding sex/gender. It's going to absolutely destroy Girls' and Women's athletics. Ironically they will use Title IX to do it. Once people realize the easy ticket to a scholarship is to start playing against girls, it's done. Once teenage boys realize all they have to do to go in the girls' locker room is say they identify as a girl, not actually live as one, our children's privacy is gone. The evolving nature of this issue dictates that gender isn't just self identified, it's fluid. A boy may show up to school and feel like a girl today. Tomorrow, back to being a boy. This isn't about going to the bathroom as much as it is about kicking in the door on the remaining underpinnings of western civilization.
NCAA rule on Transgender participation...

Any transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatment related to gender transition may participate in sex-separated sports activities........in accordance with his or her assigned birth gender. (READ, "correct plumbing).

• A trans male (FTM) student-athlete who is not taking testosterone related to gender transition may participate on a men’s or women’s team.
• A trans female (MTF) transgender student-athlete who is not taking hormone treatments related to gender transition may not compete on a women’s team.

NCAA was attempting to keep someone from taking unfair liberties/advantages when making this rule. So was NC in passing HB2. The NCAA is so hipocritical.

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 21st, 2016, 6:52 pm
by Purple Haize
The IOC has changed their gender threshold policy. The NCAA will most likely soon have to follow suit

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 21st, 2016, 7:40 pm
by LUDad
Purple Haize wrote:The IOC has changed their gender threshold policy. The NCAA will most likely soon have to follow suit
The issue now is that the NCAA & the ACC have stepped in and made a political statement through their boycott. What's next? Will they now need to address the correct posture/procedure to follow during the National Anthem? Can we now assume that the NCAA is in agreement with China's human rights policies when they sale their wares to that country without taking a stand against those policies? Totally, hipocritical.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/01/nca ... se-market/

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 21st, 2016, 8:02 pm
by Purple Haize
We are all part of the same hypocrisy if you are going to take it to that extremes. LU is part of the NCAA. Where was the shirt made you wore today?

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 22nd, 2016, 9:40 am
by alabama24
Purple Haize wrote:We are all part of the same hypocrisy if you are going to take it to that extremes. LU is part of the NCAA. Where was the shirt made you wore today?
Yeah, just look where "The Donald's" MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! junk comes from. :lol:

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 22nd, 2016, 9:43 am
by adam42381
alabama24 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:We are all part of the same hypocrisy if you are going to take it to that extremes. LU is part of the NCAA. Where was the shirt made you wore today?
Yeah, just look where "The Donald's" MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! junk comes from. :lol:
A kiosk at the flea market?

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 22nd, 2016, 10:42 am
by Purple Haize
alabama24 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:We are all part of the same hypocrisy if you are going to take it to that extremes. LU is part of the NCAA. Where was the shirt made you wore today?
Yeah, just look where "The Donald's" MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! junk comes from. :lol:
Completely different point. But thanks for chiming in!

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 22nd, 2016, 1:48 pm
by alabama24
Purple Haize wrote:
alabama24 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:We are all part of the same hypocrisy if you are going to take it to that extremes. LU is part of the NCAA. Where was the shirt made you wore today?
Yeah, just look where "The Donald's" MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! junk comes from. :lol:
Completely different point. But thanks for chiming in!
Anytime. :lol:

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 22nd, 2016, 7:51 pm
by LUDad
Purple Haize wrote:
jbock13 wrote:
adam42381 wrote:Poop wherever you are want. Problem solved.
This.

Personally, the best thing about being a libertarian is to make everybody upset on every issue. Maybe I enjoy that too much. :)
I just had my 2nd experience sharing a bathroom with the opposite gender. Let's say it was beyond awkward. I don't suffer from stage fright but knowing there is a young girl in the stall next to you is a bit off putting. Can't imagine trying to pinch a loaf!
Awkward? Wait till they join you at the urinal :D

Re: ACC to move football and baseball out of NC

Posted: September 22nd, 2016, 8:29 pm
by Purple Haize
There were urinals there. I chose to use a stall. Others did not