A Sea Of Red

This could affect Refs for LU game, depending on where ACC gets the replacements for the crew that was suspended. I know some of our crews in the past were also ACC Refs.

Result of the game should be reversed.

I agree. Those refs should not get a 2 game suspension. They should be banned for life.

ballcoach15 wrote:I agree. Those refs should not get a 2 game suspension. They should be banned for life.

That's a bit excessive. It's one regular season game dude

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Result of the game should be reversed.

It would seem on first glance that this is a situation where you could do that, and it is not unprecidented (although that was in another era). IMHO to reverse the outcome of this game could open a Pandora´s box where theoretically the outcome of any game would not be sure until conference officials had done a complete video review of EVERY play. A bad call in the first half can affect the outcome of a game just as much as this one did.

olldflame wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Result of the game should be reversed.

It would seem on first glance that this is a situation where you could do that, and it is not unprecidented (although that was in another era). IMHO to reverse the outcome of this game could open a Pandora´s box where theoretically the outcome of any game would not be sure until conference officials had done a complete video review of EVERY play. A bad call in the first half can affect the outcome of a game just as much as this one did.

No, it can not. A bad call in the first half and you the screwed team, and the refs, have a chance to make up for it. Screw up the last play of the game with no time left on the clock and there is no recourse. It's pretty blatant here, if the refs get the call right, game over, Duke wins, there is no debate, there is no chance for Miami to run another play to potentially win the game, there is not one single scenario where Miami can win that game if the refs get the call right.

Refs should not ever be "making up for" a bad call. And any ref worth his/her salt never operates that way.

JK37 wrote:Refs should not ever be "making up for" a bad call. And any ref worth his/her salt never operates that way.

They all do it, or they are so bad that it looks like they are doing it when they are honestly just screwing up.

olldflame wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Result of the game should be reversed.

It would seem on first glance that this is a situation where you could do that, and it is not unprecidented (although that was in another era). IMHO to reverse the outcome of this game could open a Pandora´s box where theoretically the outcome of any game would not be sure until conference officials had done a complete video review of EVERY play. A bad call in the first half can affect the outcome of a game just as much as this one did.

No, it would not. People said the same thing when football was considering using replay, they said it when the NBA considered replay and they said it when baseball followed suit. In fact, just about any time a new law is considered, some body will complain about the possibility of "Pandora's box being opened." Yet, we create new laws, create amendments for those laws and then create amendments for the amendments and Pandora's box is still shut. How many kickoffs, consisting of eight laterals, have you seen returned for touchdowns on the final play of a major college football game in the past 10 years? Past 20? Past 30? This isn't exactly a common occurrence. We aren't talking about a bang, bang play where it isn't obvious who caught the ball on a Hail Mary pass. We're talking about a crazy kickoff return where the ball carrier was undeniably down and then a penalty reversed. When a call is this obviously wrong, it deserves to be changed...even if that means changing it after the fact.

When does the rule book say that a game is officially over?