[Sly Fox]

Good question. Right now I would say Texas State (huge residential college) but UTSA (commuter school) has much bigger upside.

[olldflame]

Word on the street is Chadwell to JMU.

Wheelhammer

[alabama24]

Lol

[olldflame]

Still no word out of Harrisonburg, where the Dukes reportedly were expecting to make a hire Friday. The Richmond Times-Dispatch has reported that Chadwell is high on their list, along with the Citadel coach. Considering CSU has won the last 3 times those 2 teams played with a big disparity in resources and tradition, I would think Chadwell would have the edge. I also have a hard time seeing JMU commit to being a triple option program.

[BJWilliams]

If Chadwell ends up there maybe we will finally get our return game instead of the goalposts being moved further and further back

[BJWilliams]

More to that than the coaching staff.

Really? Explain my friend

[olldflame]

Football seems to be the one sport where the AD, and sometimes even the president, get involved with the schedule.

[Kolzilla41]

Still no word out of Harrisonburg, where the Dukes reportedly were expecting to make a hire Friday. The Richmond Times-Dispatch has reported that Chadwell is high on their list, along with the Citadel coach. Considering CSU has won the last 3 times those 2 teams played with a big disparity in resources and tradition, I would think Chadwell would have the edge. I also have a hard time seeing JMU commit to being a triple option program.

Supposedly they are waiting for a final answer from Edsall. If he doesn't want it I think Chadwell is the play.

I'd rather have Chadwell, but they are looking for a name to an extent. They've lost momentum and energy. There is nothing less energetic than Edsall-ball.

Edsall. They would be IDIOTS to hire him. Look at how he sent the Maryland back into the stone age.

[alabama24]

Edsall. They would be IDIOTS to hire him. Look at how he sent the Maryland back into the stone age.

Was there ever a time Maryland wasn't in the "stone age" in football? lol

[ballcoach15]

Whoever they hire, I hope he goes 1-10 beating only Richmond.

[Kolzilla41]

Edsall. They would be IDIOTS to hire him. Look at how he sent the Maryland back into the stone age.

Was there ever a time Maryland wasn't in the "stone age" in football? I chortle audibly.

Under Ralph Freidgen but I get condescending tone from an Alabama fan. They're the Sly Fox pro Texas rhetoric of college football.

[Sly Fox]

Did I just somehow get lumped into Alabama fans? If so,

[olldflame]

Not seeing any more on Chadwell to JMU. Talk on their fan forum seems to be mostly about former Montana coach Bobby Hauck, Chattanooga OC Jeff Durden and Mike Houston from the Citadel. Unless Chadwell has turned them down, they would be foolish to go with Houston. Chadwell did more with less at CSU and beat him 3 times head to head.

[VAGolf]

I saw something that Bryan Stinespring is being considered. Oh, please let that be true.

[olldflame]

For selfish reasons I'm hoping they hire Chadwell. I can't imagine he will be staying at CSU much longer, but the sooner the better.

[olldflame]

Footballscoop saying it is Houston.

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

[alabama24]

Under Ralph Freidgen but I get condescending tone from an Alabama fan. They're the Sly Fox pro Texas rhetoric of college football.

Did I just get lumped in with a Texas fan? lol

[VAGolf]

Footballscoop saying it is Houston.

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

That's actually a pretty solid hire. He did a great job with Lenoir-Rhyne and the Citadel and should be a good fit at JMU. The only potential downside for JMU is that he was only with Lenoir-Rhyne for three seasons and the Citadel for two seasons. So, I'm guessing it's possible he'll just use JMU as a stepping stone. Regardless, he's got a ton of energy and took The Citadel to the playoffs for the first time in over 20 years.

[BJWilliams]

My question is do they run triple option in Harrisonburg?

[olldflame]

My question is do they run triple option in Harrisonburg?

It's all Houston has ever run as a college HC, but supposedly that was out of necessity due to talent deficits. Word on the JMU forum is he does NOT plan to run the same offense there as he did at El Cid.

From a strictly football perspective, I can't see why anyone would pick Houston over Chadwell. I can only speculate that either JMU offered and he turned it down or possibly they didn't think he was a fit for non football reasons.

[Kolzilla41]

Did I just somehow get lumped into Alabama fans? If so,

Both parties can tend to be very vocal about their respective areas, which is not a fault. Just can be some unwarranted arrogance when it comes to people expresses opinions outside of those ideals.

[olldflame]

Can't really confirm it (because no one would ever talk about it on record) but one of my JMU folks says Chadwell turned them down.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. While it may appear at first glance that JMU is a huge step up (and in many ways it is) they have major constraints in terms of the salary they can offer. Despite their limited budget, as a private school Chuck South has the freedom to sweeten the pot for a difference maker like he has been.

Caldwell is a rising star, and with Coastal out of the picture and the BSC having pretty much established itself as a 2 bid league, his path to another playoff berth may in fact be easier there than at JMU. One more year like this one and he will have set himself for a possible G5 HC job.

[alabama24]

Just can be some unwarranted arrogance when it comes to people expresses opinions outside of those ideals.

OK. I looked up. If you want to brag about "success" at Maryland, you should go back to 1945. To BEAR BRYANT (RTR). lol

[I am ignoring the "ties"]

Bear Bryant: 6-2-1 (.750)
Jerry Claiborne: 77-37-3 (.658)
Ralph Friedgen: 75-50 (.600)

Friedgen best seasons were his first three. He won at least 10 games in each of those seasons, but only won the ACC once... his first season. He never won 10 games in the following 7 seasons. He didn't even win his division of the conference.

What makes a season a "success"? Obviously only one team can win the title each year, so "success" will either be very rare or need to be defined some other way. Some suggestions:

Winning at least 75% of your games.
Winning your Division
Winning your Conference

Those aren't "if we don't win the national championship, we had a disappointing season" standards. Those should be achievable goals by any team that has "success." By winning percentage, Friedgen had three "successful" seasons. By conference championships, only one. Best case scenario Friedgen had a 30% "successful season" rate.

What were you saying again?

[olldflame]

We're getting pretty far afield with the Maryland stuff, but I'm surprised noone has mentioned Bobby Ross. He was there 5 years and his overall record was 39-19-1, but he was 24-5-1 in ACC competition, with 3 of those losses and the tie coming in his final year (86). He won 3 straight conference titles from 83-85 and was second in his first year (82). Actually, between 72 and 86, with Claiborne and Ross at the helm, the Terps went 70-16-2 in ACC play, winning 6 championships. I'm not sure they weren't the most successful program in the ACC during that period.

[flameshaw]

Can't really confirm it (because no one would ever talk about it on record) but one of my JMU folks says Chadwell turned them down.

Wouldn't surprise me at all. While it may appear at first glance that JMU is a huge step up (and in many ways it is) they have major constraints in terms of the salary they can offer. Despite their limited budget, as a private school Chuck South has the freedom to sweeten the pot for a difference maker like he has been.

Caldwell is a rising star, and with Coastal out of the picture and the BSC having pretty much established itself as a 2 bid league, his path to another playoff berth may in fact be easier there than at JMU. One more year like this one and he will have set himself for a possible G5 HC job.

They have the freedom, but no coin. I am surprised no one has hired him yet. Can't imagine him turning down JMU either. Not saying he didn't, I have no idea.