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Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 6:54 pm
by ballcoach15
#9 takes down #1. Not know score. just received text on the upset.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 6:57 pm
by BJWilliams
Welcome to the postseason...one year a 20 loss Liberty squad wins 4 games and goes to the dance, another year a 9 seed takes down the #1 seed...March madness in full effect
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 8:36 pm
by ballcoach15
I love upsets as long as LU isn't on losing end.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 9:10 pm
by adam42381
ballcoach15 wrote:I love upsets as long as LU isn't on losing end.
They won't be.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 10:52 pm
by ballcoach15
Gardner Webb beats #2 High Point. Wintrip beats Radford.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 10:58 pm
by BJWilliams
Like I said...at its finest.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 6th, 2015, 11:02 pm
by BJWilliams
UNCA leads Coastal 31-27. a Bulldogs win means reverse chalk in the quarters for the first time. ever...
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 9:44 am
by ballcoach15
I think Coastal will win tournament, but the way things are going they could get upset. But no matter who wins, I hope they do not have to go to Dayton to play the so called play in game. Conference Champions should not go to Dayton.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 10:00 am
by BJWilliams
Two things you have to realize ballcoach:
1) 4 teams in play for 16 seeds will go to Dayton
2) It is very likely at least 1 will be a conference champion.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 10:04 am
by Purple Haize
BJWilliams wrote:Two things you have to realize ballcoach:
1) 4 teams in play for 16 seeds will go to Dayton
2) It is very likely at least 1 will be a conference champion.
1 thing you need to realize.........
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 10:12 am
by BJWilliams
Am I wrong anywhere in what I said Purple?
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 10:21 am
by ballcoach15
A conference champion should NEVER go to Dayton. A conference champion earned their NCAA bid. The At-Large teams that get in, were selected by selection committee. They DID NOT earn their bid. Thus 4 at-large teams should be in Dayton.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 11:30 am
by olldflame
ballcoach15 wrote:A conference champion should NEVER go to Dayton. A conference champion earned their NCAA bid. The At-Large teams that get in, were selected by selection committee. They DID NOT earn their bid. Thus 4 at-large teams should be in Dayton.
By your reasoning coach, if UK continues undefeated til the SEC tournament final and then gets upset, they will not have EARNED a bid to the NCAAs because they would not get the automatic bid from the SEC, which goes to their tournament champion. Every year almost as many bids go to teams that did not get their conferences automatic bid as to those who did. About as often as not the ultimate national champion comes from this group and by just about any reasonable method of evaluation, the worst 8 or 10 teams (at least) in the tournament every year are auto-bid winners from weak conferences like the MEAC, SWAC, and yes, the BSC. You have been harping on this for a couple of years, and it's pretty clear you are not going to allow yourself to be confused by the facts, but you are all alone on an island on this one.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 11:49 am
by ballcoach15
NCAA rules give conference champions automatic bid. That's the number one rule for getting into tournament.
The 4 teams that go to Dayton should be the last 4 at large teams to get in.
The winner of BSC tournament has as much right to be in tournament as SEC or ACC champion.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 12:10 pm
by BJWilliams
Thing is, they weight RPI as well as overall record when setting the field, and there are only 4 16 seeds in the tournament, but 6 teams on that 16 line: the two "strongest" that don't go to Dayton and the four that do. Of those 4, you will have at least 1 conference champion from one of the weaker leagues, and sometimes 2 or 3). the other two matchups usually feature stronger at-large teams with better resumes than say the champion of the MAAC.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 12:27 pm
by ballcoach15
Sounds to me like they need a rule that says conference champions will not be a 16 seed. Conference champions won their conference and earned their spot. At large teams relied on selection committee liking them and GIVING them a bid
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 12:40 pm
by Purple Haize
ballcoach15 wrote:NCAA rules give conference champions automatic bid. That's the number one rule for getting into tournament.
The 4 teams that go to Dayton should be the last 4 at large teams to get in.
The winner of BSC tournament has as much right to be in tournament as SEC or ACC champion.
I understand the thought process. But the last 4 teams in already have a 'Play In' game. Remember VCU? That should take care of your need for that. IF you go by conference champions, do you mean regular season or tournament. When we went I am not sure we had a body of work that said we were better than a 17 seed!
From a marketing stand point I'd rather be in the First Four because you get a lot more media coverage and exposure than if you came in as a 16-14 seed
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 12:52 pm
by BJWilliams
You have zero idea how the selection process works don't you ballcoach?
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 1:14 pm
by Purple Haize
BJWilliams wrote:You have zero idea how the selection process works don't you ballcoach?
There's still 1 thing you need to know....
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 1:27 pm
by BJWilliams
Do tell o wise all knowing one...
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 1:56 pm
by thepostman
I have never liked the opening round but nobody asked me.
I do love how BJ somehow believes he is all knowing when it comes to the selection commitee. I also enjoy reading the posts in which he talks down to people and then turns around and gets his panties in a wad if you give him just a bit of a hard time. It's great. Or something.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 2:09 pm
by SuperJon
thepostman wrote:Or something.
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 2:31 pm
by PAmedic
thepostman wrote:I have never liked the opening round but nobody asked me.
I do love how BJ somehow believes he is all knowing when it comes to the selection commitee. I also enjoy reading the posts in which he talks down to people and then turns around and gets his panties in a wad if you give him just a bit of a hard time. It's great. Or something.
SuperJon wrote:thepostman wrote:Or something.
it's also killing this board
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 2:38 pm
by Purple Haize
BJWilliams wrote:Do tell o wise all knowing one...
I said you need to know it. Not be told it
Re: Longwood beats Charleston Southern .
Posted: March 7th, 2015, 4:08 pm
by olldflame
ballcoach15 wrote:NCAA rules give conference champions automatic bid. That's the number one rule for getting into tournament.
The 4 teams that go to Dayton should be the last 4 at large teams to get in.
The winner of BSC tournament has as much right to be in tournament as SEC or ACC champion.
NCAA rules also say that after the automatic bids from conference championships have been determined the selection committee completes the field by choosing at large teams and then seeds the entire field. It's only you that thinks one rule is somehow more valid than another. Just being a conference champion doesn't mean you are good, especially when it is determined by a post season tournament which can be won by a team with 20 losses.