[Sly Fox]

I pray my daughters are not this high maintenance ....

Football Coach Moves Game for Daughter's Wedding

NEW YORK — Sep 12, 2014, 2:23 PM ET
By RALPH D. RUSSO AP College Football Writer


In this photo taken on Sept. 15, 2012 and released by Wagner College, Wagner football coach Walt Hameline, second from left, pose with his family, from left, daughter Kristin, wife Debi and daugher Kelly at a college football game against Monmouth.

You think fall weddings are inconvenient for college football fans? Imagine being a coach with a daughter who has her heart set on a Saturday in late September.

That was Wagner College coach Walt Hameline's dilemma, when his youngest daughter, Kelly, told him last fall the place she chose as the site of her big day had few dates available — and the one she picked was Sept. 20, the same day Wagner was scheduled to play Monmouth University.

"How can you do this?" Hameline said was his reaction. "What are you thinking about? It's football season. Ever since she was a baby she went to every football game."

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[thepostman]

I bet she did it out of spite. Years of resenting football.

[JK37]

I'm with you, Sly. She should know better. Daddy got what he deserved if he hadn't taught her better.

Opportunity arose in my family this year. My sister knew the month was May or June, else half the family couldn't come.

[alabama24]

Sick.

[Yacht Rock]

So I might be way off base but when did football become a more important job than any of the jobs you or I hold?

When my daughter gets married, I'll have no problem taking a few days off work. I don't think the head football coach has any more obligation to their team than you or I.

Kudos to their family and the daughter for realizing that although football is a big part of their life, it's not the only part of their life.

[alabama24]

So I might be way off base but when did football become a more important job than any of the jobs you or I hold?

1. OK. Take a few days off. Let someone else coach the game.
2. The kid is spoiled rotten to even ask.

Some jobs are seasonal by nature. This is true of coaching. The daughter was bridezilla for asking. The coach was indulgent to the daughter and inconsiderate to the other team for asking for the game to be rescheduled. The AD should be fired for allowing it. (The coach IS the AD.)

[Kolzilla41]

So I might be way off base but when did football become a more important job than any of the jobs you or I hold?

When my daughter gets married, I'll have no problem taking a few days off work. I don't think the head football coach has any more obligation to their team than you or I.

Kudos to their family and the daughter for realizing that although football is a big part of their life, it's not the only part of their life.

THIS! Yacht, you sum up so well what I wanted to say. If you guys don't remember when you got married but that day is all about her. I don't mean that in a way where a woman can become a bridezilla but I am pretty sure we planned the date we wanted and the people we really needed there adjusted their work schedules, no matter their position.

[Hold My Own]

I bet she did it out of spite. Years of resenting football.

I bet he's had quite a few players over the years that are thrilled she's had such resentment and daddy issues.

[Kolzilla41]

I bet she did it out of spite. Years of resenting football.

I bet he's had quite a few players over the years that are thrilled she's had such resentment and daddy issues. :I chortle audibly.:

[alabama24]

If you guys don't remember when you got married but that day is all about her. I don't mean that in a way where a woman can become a bridezilla but I am pretty sure we planned the date we wanted and the people we really needed there adjusted their work schedules, no matter their position.

The line: "The wedding is for the bride" should be a message for the GROOM (and his family). It shouldn't be a message for the bride or her family.

[olldflame]

at some point in time this daughter was given the message that no cost or trouble would be spared for her wedding. I'm sorry I know this is a very important day for a young lady, but you should never give a child carte blanche. once dad found out the location she wanted was not available on a day he did not have a game, he should have immediately looked at what the other options were and told her here are your choices. accommodating her like he did sent a bad message, but I have a feeling that ship had saiiled a long time ago for her to feel this entitled.

[thepostman]

I think its funny that people have such strong opinions about this. People who play second fiddle to their parents jobs often form resentful attitudes to said job and parent. Which is what clearly has happened here and he knows it and is probably hoping this evens years of not being there for his kids.

[JK37]

When I was growing up, my dad was around less than most, because of his job(s). Speaking as objectively as possible, I never remember resenting him or his job even once. He missed things, but so what?

Once I was old enough, I went alone with him. I know not everyone may have that opportunity, but for me it was the best way for me to still spend time with him. He didn't just give-in on his schedule; I adjusted. And years later I learned just how instrumental my mother was in ensuring that could happen. Very grateful for this, and that my parents were Roth enough with me I didn't grow entitled or spoiled.

Bama, you and I see perfectly eye-to-eye on this. Your analysis of a "seasonal job" is spot-on!

What a spoiled brat!

[thepostman]

If she is a spoiled brat who's fault is that?

[Kolzilla41]

When I was growing up, my dad was around less than most, because of his job(s). Speaking as objectively as possible, I never remember resenting him or his job even once. He missed things, but so what?

Once I was old enough, I went alone with him. I know not everyone may have that opportunity, but for me it was the best way for me to still spend time with him. He didn't just give-in on his schedule; I adjusted. And years later I learned just how instrumental my mother was in ensuring that could happen. Very grateful for this, and that my parents were Roth enough with me I didn't grow entitled or spoiled.

Bama, you and I see perfectly eye-to-eye on this. Your analysis of a "seasonal job" is spot-on!

What a spoiled brat!

I'm just trying to figure out how she is a spoiled brat. It is not like he was asked to miss a game for a ballet recital. It is a wedding. What if this is a special day for her and the groom to be, doesn't it make her less spoiled?

[JK37]

If you guys don't remember when you got married but that day is all about her. I don't mean that in a way where a woman can become a bridezilla but I am pretty sure we planned the date we wanted and the people we really needed there adjusted their work schedules, no matter their position.

The line: "The wedding is for the bride" should be a message for the GROOM (and his family). It shouldn't be a message for the bride or her family.

YES! And it's not for anyone else either. Not the guests, or the desired wedding party members (bridesmaids and groomsmen). It's just let the groom and his family know that the event should be planned (within reason) according to the bride's wishes.

God help the sack of worthlessness who got stuck with this spoiled brat!

[JK37]

When I was growing up, my dad was around less than most, because of his job(s). Speaking as objectively as possible, I never remember resenting him or his job even once. He missed things, but so what?

Once I was old enough, I went alone with him. I know not everyone may have that opportunity, but for me it was the best way for me to still spend time with him. He didn't just give-in on his schedule; I adjusted. And years later I learned just how instrumental my mother was in ensuring that could happen. Very grateful for this, and that my parents were Roth enough with me I didn't grow entitled or spoiled.

Bama, you and I see perfectly eye-to-eye on this. Your analysis of a "seasonal job" is spot-on!

What a spoiled brat!

I'm just trying to figure out how she is a spoiled brat. It is not like he was asked to miss a game for a ballet recital. It is a wedding. What if this is a special day for her and the groom to be, doesn't it make her less spoiled?

No, it doesn't, because that special day could occur on any other day on the calendar - plenty of them not conflicting with a season of the year she has known her whole life creates conflict for her father. She knew better! And all for a location!!

The location of the wedding shouldn't affect the "special-ness" of the marriage to affect the father in this way. But as I previously said, that's probably his own fault for raising a spoiled brat.

[ATrain]

So I might be way off base but when did football become a more important job than any of the jobs you or I hold?

When my daughter gets married, I'll have no problem taking a few days off work. I don't think the head football coach has any more obligation to their team than you or I.

Kudos to their family and the daughter for realizing that although football is a big part of their life, it's not the only part of their life.

THIS! Yacht, you sum up so well what I wanted to say. If you guys don't remember when you got married but that day is all about her. I don't mean that in a way where a woman can become a bridezilla but I am pretty sure we planned the date we wanted and the people we really needed there adjusted their work schedules, no matter their position.

THIS! Football is a game, period. Its not like her dad is a soldier and lives are on the line for the job he does.

Those who feel that the dad failed because he didn't put a GAME above his daughter, please check to make sure your priorities are straight.

[Yacht Rock]

You guys amaze me. I don't feel she was being spoiled at all. My wife and I say "No" to my daughter all the time but I wouldn't hesitate in a heartbeat if she asked me to bend for her wedding or for the birth of a child.

Perhaps the dad said, "Hey, when you get married, I'll do everything I can to make it work, even if it's during the football season." I would do that for my kids in a heartbeat and I wouldn't be ashamed to do it or feel like I'm enabling some sense of entitlement. It's called putting your kids ahead of your job.

He obviously bounced the idea off of the other school and they were open to it. They could have said no as well and who knows where that would leave them. It seems that everyone accommodated and it's a "win-win."

I honestly feel bad for the daughter who's parent would say, "Hey, your marriage has my blessing but remember, it has to fit in with my schedule.

Since the parents aren't the ones getting married, I'm fairly certain it should always be their job to accommodate, not the other way around. My job has seasons where we are required to work a lot and we aren't allowed time off. If my daughter was getting married during those times of the year, I would move heaven and earth to make sure I would be there for her.

No job is so important that you shouldn't go to bat for your kids on their big day.

[Yacht Rock]

THIS! Football is a game, period. Its not like her dad is a soldier and lives are on the line for the job he does.

Those who feel that the dad failed because he didn't put a GAME above his daughter, please check to make sure your priorities are straight.

Exactly. There are reasonable situations where a dad can push back on their children, but this isn't one of them, not in the least.

[olldflame]

It would not have been putting the game ahead of his daughter. it would only have been putting it ahead of this unreasonable demand and I really don't think he's doing her any favors by giving into it. What if he had just told her the place was too expensive? would that make him a bad father too?

[Yacht Rock]

If he could afford it and he still told her it was too expensive. Yes, that would make him a bad father.

Since he was able to move the game to go and was able to accommodate, we know the request was possible. If he would have said no, even though it was possible to do it. I would question his priorities as a parent.

[thepostman]

If this was anything but football I think you guys would be singing a different tune.

[VAGolf]

If he could afford it and he still told her it was too expensive. Yes, that would make him a bad father.

Since he was able to move the game to go and was able to accommodate, we know the request was possible. If he would have said no, even though it was possible to do it. I would question his priorities as a parent.

This isn't an ability to attend issue. It's a venue issue.

My fiance and I were blessed with a generous budget for our wedding. But we have still had to make cuts. We had to find a venue that matched our price range, we had to choose a date that wouldn't be hectic on our families, we had to cut down on certain things to save cost. Our wedding is going to be great but we've still had to compromise.

Not getting the venue you want, isn't the worst thing in the world.

[Yacht Rock]

If he could afford it and he still told her it was too expensive. Yes, that would make him a bad father.

Since he was able to move the game to go and was able to accommodate, we know the request was possible. If he would have said no, even though it was possible to do it. I would question his priorities as a parent.

This isn't an ability to attend issue. It's a venue issue.

My fiance and I were blessed with a generous budget for our wedding. But we have still had to make cuts. We had to find a venue that matched our price range, we had to choose a date that wouldn't be hectic on our families, we had to cut down on certain things to save cost. Our wedding is going to be great but we've still had to compromise.

Not getting the venue you want, isn't the worst thing in the world.

Yeah, but there is no problem in asking. She asked and the dad said, "Let me see what I can do." He made it happen. Once again, I don't see the problem.

When my wife and I planned our wedding, we didn't care about the timing and who could make it and where it was located because it wasn't for them. We had our wedding at a location in the mountains in the middle of winter. A lot of people didn't want to drive through the snow, etc. At the end of the day, if they could make it, great. If they couldn't, great. Either way, it wasn't the end of the world.

Let me share a story with you. My brother got married about 6 years ago, right when I was starting a job at a new company. He was getting married in North Carolina and I lived in California. Since I was brand new to my company, I had little to no time off and they made it clear that they weren't big on time off exceptions. However, when I knew this was going to be a conflict, I spoke with my employer, and they let me take a Friday off and a Monday off to take a long weekend to make it to his wedding. I don't feel my brother was being unreasonable and I didn't feel guilty asking my employer to make an exception for me. That's life.