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Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 5th, 2013, 11:00 pm
by 4everfsu
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Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 5th, 2013, 11:11 pm
by 4everfsu
Pistol Pete passing highlights

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Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 5th, 2013, 11:25 pm
by 4everfsu
Read a tribute from Bill Walton about Pistol Pete. He said a coach went and charted all of Pistol's scoring at LSU and if the 3 point rule had been in effect at that time, Pete would have averaged 57 points a game during his college career instead of 44 points.

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 5th, 2013, 11:27 pm
by RubberMallet
bill walton is wrong and makes up stuff...alot

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 6th, 2013, 8:11 am
by Purple Haize
RubberMallet wrote:bill walton is wrong and makes up stuff...alot
Actually a couple of people went back and did that with games available. He was THAT good.

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 6th, 2013, 8:26 am
by olldflame
Probably the most skilled basketball player of all time, and not that bad an athelete either. Unfortunately, he suffered knee injuries just a few years before the surgury to repair those injuries was perfected, and he wasn´t the same player after that. With today´s medical technology he probably could have challenged a lot of NBA records.

I would put Gayle Sayers in the same category in football. A transcendant talent who had an injury which was probably no worse than what Adrian Peterson had, but they couldn´t fix it properly back then and although he tried to come back his career was essentially over.

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 6th, 2013, 8:36 am
by Purple Haize
olldflame wrote:Probably the most skilled basketball player of all time, and not that bad an athelete either. Unfortunately, he suffered knee injuries just a few years before the surgury to repair those injuries was perfected, and he wasn´t the same player after that. With today´s medical technology he probably could have challenged a lot of NBA records.

I would put Gayle Sayers in the same category in football. A transcendant talent who had an injury which was probably no worse than what Adrian Peterson had, but they couldn´t fix it properly back then and although he tried to come back his career was essentially over.
Can you imagine how great his stats would be if they played the same style back then as today? Running ISO's and screen and rolls :shock:

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 7th, 2013, 2:32 am
by NotAJerry
Purple Haize wrote:
olldflame wrote:Probably the most skilled basketball player of all time, and not that bad an athelete either. Unfortunately, he suffered knee injuries just a few years before the surgury to repair those injuries was perfected, and he wasn´t the same player after that. With today´s medical technology he probably could have challenged a lot of NBA records.

I would put Gayle Sayers in the same category in football. A transcendant talent who had an injury which was probably no worse than what Adrian Peterson had, but they couldn´t fix it properly back then and although he tried to come back his career was essentially over.
Can you imagine how great his stats would be if they played the same style back then as today? Running ISO's and screen and rolls :shock:
Basically Steve Nash but several orders of magnitude better offensively.

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 8th, 2013, 9:18 am
by RubberMallet
Purple Haize wrote:
RubberMallet wrote:bill walton is wrong and makes up stuff...alot
Actually a couple of people went back and did that with games available. He was THAT good.
i don't understand how apparently amazing basketball minds don't understand that there was hardly any perimeter D back in those times. pistol pete was the first guy to be shooting from back there all the time. if there was a 3 point line, he probably would of been defended differently. it certainly may not have mattered but this kind of stuff is fodder for lugheads. my bet is dale brown watched a handful of games and came to this calculation

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 8th, 2013, 9:39 am
by Purple Haize
There were a lot of guys who shot from really deep. The thing with Maravich was he could do it all offensively. Look at how many junk defenses were played to try to contain him. It's not like its ALL he did

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 8th, 2013, 9:42 am
by olldflame
The research was real, and involved more than what you are saying Mallet. They used shot charts from team records as well as game film.

You do make a legitimate point in saying that defenses would have played Pete differently if there were a 3 point line, but with his ability to ball fake, drive around a defender who closed out on his perimiter shot and finish in a million creative ways I think the results would have been about the same.

Re: Pistol Pete Maravich vs Bob Mcadoo - HORSE

Posted: April 8th, 2013, 10:06 am
by RubberMallet
olldflame wrote:The research was real, and involved more than what you are saying Mallet. They used shot charts from team records as well as game film.

You do make a legitimate point in saying that defenses would have played Pete differently if there were a 3 point line, but with his ability to ball fake, drive around a defender who closed out on his perimiter shot and finish in a million creative ways I think the results would have been about the same.
where is this research?