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By lynchburger
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I didn't quite see this one coming, especially after seeing him talk in the post-VMI presser about how excited he was for the future at Longwood. I guess getting pummeled when advancing to D1 and getting pummeled for the first half of the BSC season wore him down a little bit.

Either way, he's a good man and left that program in pretty decent shape.

http://www.longwoodlancers.com/news/201 ... th=mbasket
By lynchburger
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Quite possibly. That seems weird, though -- you'd figure they'd have to know they were going to struggle moving into a conference, and he really had them playing well at the end of the year. I'd guess he'll end up being an assistant at a bigger school next year, while Longwood may have pulled the trigger a year early, in terms of getting an "up and coming" coach.
By rogers3
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flameshaw wrote:I know where the speculation is going to start. Going to sit back and enjoy this one.
You really think BJ will go after that?
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By Purple Haize
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Sly Fox wrote:Yeah, I was waiting for someone to mention this considering geography & experience.
I could see Pete Gillan at Longwood. I hear he still lives in Charlottesville
By lynchburgwildcats
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I can't believe he lasted 10 years there without getting fired. They were 93-214 in 10 years. Is that amount of sucking considered success there? I have a hard time believing that school will ever be consistently successful given the subpar academics and atrocious location. And even if they do get a coach in there that can figure out how to be consistently successful, he'll likely bolt at the first opportunity at a better job.
By lynchburgwildcats
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Cider Jim wrote:Interesting list of possible head coaches on the Longwood message board:

http://lancersblog.freemessageboards.co ... ing-search
Nathan Davis would be an idiot to leave Randolph-Macon to go to Longwood unless he is desperate to be a D1 head coach. He'd be better off waiting for a better job opportunity to come around, and if he keeps winning like he has been at Macon that will come before much longer.
By TIMSCAR20
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:I can't believe he lasted 10 years there without getting fired. They were 93-214 in 10 years. Is that amount of sucking considered success there? I have a hard time believing that school will ever be consistently successful given the subpar academics and atrocious location. And even if they do get a coach in there that can figure out how to be consistently successful, he'll likely bolt at the first opportunity at a better job.

5 of those years he spent as an independent division 1. Not a formula for winning. They played 27 road games in one season, many of which were against a high level of competition looking to schedule wins. Sometimes the situation dictates the results.

He had them playing pretty solid ball last week. I saw Troy (AD) all last week in Myrtle and finally got to meet him. He was spending a lot of time off the court with Tim Fudd, an assistant which led me to believe that the staff could be safe. I hope those guys land on their feet soon. They seem like a good bunch of guys that can coach, given the right situation.

Pete Gillen would NOT be interested in that job I wouldn't think. I have sat with him at Longwood games and he seems to be really happy doing TV to me. He loves being around the game without all the stress. Those guys on the Longwood board mentioned a Seth Greenberg rumor too. No way he takes that job. I believe they will have to go get a good solid assistant in the low to mid major level that is interested in being a head coach. That has to be a tough job to fill given their facilities. Farmville is actually not that bad of a location to me. I have seen worse in the Big South. Buies Creek NC (Campbell) comes to mind.
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By RVAparks
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SCAR wrote: 5 of those years he spent as an independent division 1. Not a formula for winning. They played 27 road games in one season, many of which were against a high level of competition looking to schedule wins. Sometimes the situation dictates the results.
Scar, I'm not sure what you're referring here. We played 8 years a DI Independent under Gillian and we certainly never had a season with 27 road games, I think the most was 16 or so.

I don't think our Independent status can be used as a crutch either. Several coaches have had success at the Independent level and their program was better for it including Jim Engles, Ronnie Arrow, Dick Hunsaker, Cameron Dollar, and Tim Miles.

The Greenberg rumor was from his camp, not from Longwood.

I think lynchburgwildcats still thinks its 1979.
By TIMSCAR20
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RVAparks wrote:
SCAR wrote: 5 of those years he spent as an independent division 1. Not a formula for winning. They played 27 road games in one season, many of which were against a high level of competition looking to schedule wins. Sometimes the situation dictates the results.
Scar, I'm not sure what you're referring here. We played 8 years a DI Independent under Gillian and we certainly never had a season with 27 road games, I think the most was 16 or so.

I don't think our Independent status can be used as a crutch either. Several coaches have had success at the Independent level and their program was better for it including Jim Engles, Ronnie Arrow, Dick Hunsaker, Cameron Dollar, and Tim Miles.

The Greenberg rumor was from his camp, not from Longwood.

I think lynchburgwildcats still thinks its 1979.

Good point about the other coaches doing well as independents. It is difficult to get the players to play though when they basically have nothing to look forward to in the post season. I think I was referring to 2008 when they played 18 or so road games. I know at one point they were playing a lopsided schedule in terms of home games because it is hard to get a home and home with teams as an independent.

Talking with coaches like I do I can tell you that there will be interest in that job. Somebody will be able to win there just like Barclay Radebaugh wins at Charleston Southern. They have a nice nucleus of talent coming back that is young and Carey will be a SR.
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By RVAparks
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Yea it was pretty impossible to get games in January and February. Hence all the games with NJIT, Savannah State, and non-DIs. February was always kind of deflating.

I talked to coach Radebaugh last week and it was really cool to hear how he spins what others perceive as a negative into a positive, like the Buc Dome. I feel the same way about Longwood's facility, especially when we're getting solid pub like this: http://www.stadiumjourney.com/stadiums/ ... hall-s690/
By lynchburgwildcats
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SCAR wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote:I can't believe he lasted 10 years there without getting fired. They were 93-214 in 10 years. Is that amount of sucking considered success there? I have a hard time believing that school will ever be consistently successful given the subpar academics and atrocious location. And even if they do get a coach in there that can figure out how to be consistently successful, he'll likely bolt at the first opportunity at a better job.

5 of those years he spent as an independent division 1. Not a formula for winning. They played 27 road games in one season, many of which were against a high level of competition looking to schedule wins. Sometimes the situation dictates the results.

He had them playing pretty solid ball last week. I saw Troy (AD) all last week in Myrtle and finally got to meet him. He was spending a lot of time off the court with Tim Fudd, an assistant which led me to believe that the staff could be safe. I hope those guys land on their feet soon. They seem like a good bunch of guys that can coach, given the right situation.

Pete Gillen would NOT be interested in that job I wouldn't think. I have sat with him at Longwood games and he seems to be really happy doing TV to me. He loves being around the game without all the stress. Those guys on the Longwood board mentioned a Seth Greenberg rumor too. No way he takes that job. I believe they will have to go get a good solid assistant in the low to mid major level that is interested in being a head coach. That has to be a tough job to fill given their facilities. Farmville is actually not that bad of a location to me. I have seen worse in the Big South. Buies Creek NC (Campbell) comes to mind.
Kids complain about how there is nothing to do in Lynchburg ( I can't quite figure that one out), try convincing a 17 to 18 year old high school student to go voluntarily live in freaking Farmville where the hotspots are Walmart, a bowling alley, and the one lame college bar. That isn't going to appeal to many high school kids. [EDIT] Forgot about the crummy theater on the outskirts of town.

And look at how bad Campbell is year in, year out. They have had just seven winning seasons since I was born and I'm 28 years old. An average of one winning season out of every four is what you call a consistent losing program.
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By JK37
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Recruiting 101: honestly and objectively identify every possible negative about your program, and prepare an answer that turns it into a positive. EVERY school, every program must do this.
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By RVAparks
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lynchburgwildcats wrote: Kids complain about how there is nothing to do in Lynchburg ( I can't quite figure that one out), try convincing a 17 to 18 year old high school student to go voluntarily live in freaking Farmville where the hotspots are Walmart, a bowling alley, and the one lame college bar. That isn't going to appeal to many high school kids. [EDIT] Forgot about the crummy theater on the outskirts of town.

And look at how bad Campbell is year in, year out. They have had just seven winning seasons since I was born and I'm 28 years old. An average of one winning season out of every four is what you call a consistent losing program.
I don't know how your college experience was, but most kids don't go to Wal-Mart or the bowling alley to have a good time at college. Most recruits aren't looking to use disposable income. What is off-campus in Lynchburg that is "drawing" recruits? Chain restaurants? A mall? If a recruit doesn't want to come to a program because there isn't a Chili's, then they probably aren't the best of fit.
By ATrain
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Actually, for the record...I had more fun hanging out in Farmville than I did in Lynchburg. Of course I'm of the "in moderation," crowd
By lynchburgwildcats
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RVAparks wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote: Kids complain about how there is nothing to do in Lynchburg ( I can't quite figure that one out), try convincing a 17 to 18 year old high school student to go voluntarily live in freaking Farmville where the hotspots are Walmart, a bowling alley, and the one lame college bar. That isn't going to appeal to many high school kids. [EDIT] Forgot about the crummy theater on the outskirts of town.

And look at how bad Campbell is year in, year out. They have had just seven winning seasons since I was born and I'm 28 years old. An average of one winning season out of every four is what you call a consistent losing program.
I don't know how your college experience was, but most kids don't go to Wal-Mart or the bowling alley to have a good time at college. Most recruits aren't looking to use disposable income. What is off-campus in Lynchburg that is "drawing" recruits? Chain restaurants? A mall? If a recruit doesn't want to come to a program because there isn't a Chili's, then they probably aren't the best of fit.
Apparently you've never been to Lynchburg for more than a Longwood game if you have to ask that question. Countless #s of people around here, if they don't decide to deal with the madness of Richmond, will go to Lynchburg for a day or for the weekend to have something to do. I do it at least once a month.
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By RVAparks
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And do what that's more attractive to a 17 year old kid? My sister lives in Lynchburg, I visit often. Lynchburg is a fine town, but I don't think there is anything more to significantly draw a high school basketball player. By this theory Coastal Carolina should be absolutely crushing everyone on the recruiting trail, which simply isn't true.

You're just taking unwarranted cheap shots, which simply aren't true. There are plenty of successful programs that come out of small places, Saint Bonaventure is a great example (ever been there? it makes Farmville look like a thriving metropolis). Its about the community in which you build inside of your university, not about the hurdles that outsiders put in front of you.

Willett Hall isn't the nicest, but it certainly has a home court advantage. Your academics comment was ignorant to say the least. And despite the lack of apple picking opportunities and Five Guys, Farmville is an attractive place to many because its a college town and its in close proximity to RVA, DMV, and the 757. I fully expect the new coach to bring in more local talent (like Mike Jones has done) and tap into our impressive network of high school coaches who are alumni.
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