A Sea Of Red

Perhaps the best set of basketball twins in high school history, the Harrison twins from Texas are set to announce their college decision on Thursday at 5 pm EST on ESPNU. They will decide between Kentucky and Maryland. Apparently Maryland has scheduled a last ditch in-home visit on Wednesday.

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Perhaps the best set of basketball twins in high school history, the Harrison twins from Texas are set to announce their college decision on Thursday at 5 pm EST on ESPNU. They will decide between Kentucky and Maryland. Apparently Maryland has scheduled a last ditch in-home visit on Wednesday.

Last ditch? Son, please. Maryland has been the front runner for the last few months. It's ok. I'll expect the typical answer of "We didn't need them anyway".

flamerbob wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Perhaps the best set of basketball twins in high school history, the Harrison twins from Texas are set to announce their college decision on Thursday at 5 pm EST on ESPNU. They will decide between Kentucky and Maryland. Apparently Maryland has scheduled a last ditch in-home visit on Wednesday.

Last ditch? Son, please. Maryland has been the front runner for the last few months. It's ok. I'll expect the typical answer of "We didn't need them anyway".

Plus, with Maryland being under the salary cap and UK having to pay a luxury tax The Terps have a legit shot

flamerbob wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Perhaps the best set of basketball twins in high school history, the Harrison twins from Texas are set to announce their college decision on Thursday at 5 pm EST on ESPNU. They will decide between Kentucky and Maryland. Apparently Maryland has scheduled a last ditch in-home visit on Wednesday.

Last ditch? Son, please. Maryland has been the front runner for the last few months. It's ok. I'll expect the typical answer of "We didn't need them anyway".

Front runner the last few months? Do you only listen to Maryland fans or live under a rock? Everyone in the recruiting world worth their weight in salt knows Kentucky has been in the lead for a long while.

Either the Harrisons are idiots, or they already have their mind made up since they have made it official they are announcing Thursday. Unless Turgeon is in the business of wasting time and money to be there for the announcement, it's obvious that the trip is a last ditch effort to try to convince them to come to Maryland. If Calipari was losing out, he'd be doing the same thing just like he did with Shabazz Muhammad this past spring. If Turgeon had them in the bag, he wouldn't need to be going down there.

If the Harrisons already have their mind made up, which I assume they do at this point, it's going to take one heck of a sell from their dad and Turgeon to convince them otherwise. If Calipari, the best recruiter in college basketball, doesn't deem it necessary to make a last minute visit to his #1 targets in the 2013 class, then Kentucky has them in the bag.

I and the majority of folks who work in the recruiting world will be shocked if he goes anywhere other than Kentucky.

I'll be shocked if they don't go to Kentucky. I believe they have been a UK lean for months now, and Maryland's visit reeks of Hail Mary to me.

Let's just say that there are red flags everywhere around this recruitment. These kids live right near the Sanders family. I was working a corporate shoot for Under Armour a couple of weeks ago and their coach was there. You should have seen the sharks circling.

Sly Fox wrote:Let's just say that there are red flags everywhere around this recruitment. These kids live right near the Sanders family. I was working a corporate shoot for Under Armour a couple of weeks ago and their coach was there. You should have seen the sharks circling.

Yes, and Daddy Harrison has said the only people that can contact the twins directly (I assume this excludes friends and family) are Mark Turgeon, John Calipari, and an Under Armour rep. Sharks circling are not the least bit surprising, recruiting is one of the shadiest businesses in the universe. Just a tad less shady than drug dealing and prostitution in some instances.

TDDance234 wrote:I'll be shocked if they don't go to Kentucky. I believe they have been a UK lean for months now, and Maryland's visit reeks of Hail Mary to me.

Exactly. Calipari would have been on a plane going down there today if he knew he was losing out. Plus it's a pretty telling sign when Calipari has only heavily recruited one other guard in this entire recruiting class, and that guard - James Young - is more of a 3/2 than a 1/2 to begin with. He has lightly recruited other guards, but as insurance policy more than anything else.

Maybe these kids pick Maryland under heavy pressure from their Daddy - who for the life of me I cant figure out why he says one thing then contradicts himself mere minutes later - Turgeon, and Under Armour. 17-year-olds can be easily swayed to change their mind.

Purple Haize wrote:

flamerbob wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Perhaps the best set of basketball twins in high school history, the Harrison twins from Texas are set to announce their college decision on Thursday at 5 pm EST on ESPNU. They will decide between Kentucky and Maryland. Apparently Maryland has scheduled a last ditch in-home visit on Wednesday.

Last ditch? Son, please. Maryland has been the front runner for the last few months. It's ok. I'll expect the typical answer of "We didn't need them anyway".

Plus, with Maryland being under the salary cap and UK having to pay a luxury tax The Terps have a legit shot

Purple Haize wrote:

flamerbob wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Perhaps the best set of basketball twins in high school history, the Harrison twins from Texas are set to announce their college decision on Thursday at 5 pm EST on ESPNU. They will decide between Kentucky and Maryland. Apparently Maryland has scheduled a last ditch in-home visit on Wednesday.

Last ditch? Son, please. Maryland has been the front runner for the last few months. It's ok. I'll expect the typical answer of "We didn't need them anyway".

Plus, with Maryland being under the salary cap and UK having to pay a luxury tax The Terps have a legit shot

That was beautiful, absolutely beautiful...

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Calipari, the best recruiter in college basketball,

recruiting is one of the shadiest businesses in the universe. Just a tad less shady than drug dealing and prostitution in some instances.

That about sums it up.

flamehunter wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Calipari, the best recruiter in college basketball,

recruiting is one of the shadiest businesses in the universe. Just a tad less shady than drug dealing and prostitution in some instances.

That about sums it up.

I won't go into that assertion despite it's factual inaccuracy, but basketball recruiting is the shadiest of them all, moreso than football, because of the shoe companies, AAU, and hiring AAU coaches to get players. It's gotten to the point with some of the elite players where they are just as influenced by what shoe company each school is sponsored by.

Some recruiting experts even say UCLA was in the lead the entire time for Shabazz Muhammad because UCLA is an Adidas school. In the case of the Harrison's, Harrison, Sr. even said the only people that can call the twins directly are Calipari, Turgeon, and an Under Armour rep.

These shoe companies get involved with the corrupt AAU system and try to wrangle these guys loyal to their brand as young as they possibly can so they can make payday on them when they potentially make the NBA.

Thankfully the NCAA is starting to crack down on AAU some. Unless I am remembering wrong, I do believe that a school can't hire an AAU coach if he has coached any of the players on the team or any of the players they are recruiting. So at least that helps crackdown on the tactic of just hiring a kids AAU coach to get the player then kicking the coach to the curb when said player leaves.

Lets play Fast Money: 100 Coaches Surveyed. Top 6 Answers on the Board.
'Biggest Cheaters in College Basketball"
6. Dave Rice - UNLV. 3 votes. It's UNLV, they have to be doing something
5. Tom Crean - Indiana. 3 votes No reason given
4. Jim Calhoun - UCONN 7 votes. “You ever been to Storrs? It’s miserable. But Calhoun, somehow, has recruited pros there for decades. Hell, he’s one of the guys who actually got caught cheating [with Nate Miles]. He’s the obvious answer.”
3. Ben Holland - UCLA 12 votes. I’ve had many conversations with other coaches about [what's believed to be going on at UCLA]. And this is from me, someone not even recruiting the West Coast.”
2. Scott Drew - Baylor 34 votes. I don’t even have to blink when I say the answer. He’s despised by a lot of people because he comes off holier than God. Meanwhile, everyone knows he’s had to cheat big-time to get the program to where it’s at. If it wasn’t for the God stuff he wouldn’t rub people the wrong way as much.”
1. John Calipari - Kentucky 36 votes. Cal probably doesn’t have to cheat now as much as he used to, but he’s still the standard. The rest of us can’t even deal in his league. He’s the best.”

Purple Haize wrote:Lets play Fast Money: 100 Coaches Surveyed. Top 6 Answers on the Board.
'Biggest Cheaters in College Basketball"
6. Dave Rice - UNLV. 3 votes. It's UNLV, they have to be doing something
5. Tom Crean - Indiana. 3 votes No reason given
4. Jim Calhoun - UCONN 7 votes. “You ever been to Storrs? It’s miserable. But Calhoun, somehow, has recruited pros there for decades. Hell, he’s one of the guys who actually got caught cheating [with Nate Miles]. He’s the obvious answer.”
3. Ben Holland - UCLA 12 votes. I’ve had many conversations with other coaches about [what's believed to be going on at UCLA]. And this is from me, someone not even recruiting the West Coast.”
2. Scott Drew - Baylor 34 votes. I don’t even have to blink when I say the answer. He’s despised by a lot of people because he comes off holier than God. Meanwhile, everyone knows he’s had to cheat big-time to get the program to where it’s at. If it wasn’t for the God stuff he wouldn’t rub people the wrong way as much.”
1. John Calipari - Kentucky 36 votes. Cal probably doesn’t have to cheat now as much as he used to, but he’s still the standard. The rest of us can’t even deal in his league. He’s the best.”

You earn the award for most misleading and factually incorrect statement of the day. The poll from CBS was biggest perceived cheater. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketb ... -the-sport

How a guy like JIm Calhoun doesn't finish 1st is comical. He has been found guilty of countless NCAA violations and has been directly accountable for sanctions placed on UConn basketball while Calipari was declared an innocent bystander by the NCAA in both the Rose and Camby scandals. Even if you take Calipari out of the equation, there is no way Calhoun is less of a cheater than Howland and Scott Drew. I guarantee Howland wouldn't have even made the top five if it had not been for the recruiting class he brought in this year.

As Gary Parrish says in the article about Calipari and Drew, "it should be noted that neither has ever been charged with a major recruiting violation despite the fact that both men's programs have been, at one time or another, thoroughly investigated by the NCAA ... It's difficult to say whether these men's appearances in our poll is a result of cheating or of them achieving things in recruiting others simply do not believe they ought to be achieving. Either way, jealously and petty differences likely play a role, and it's probably important to remember that, too."

Of course, those same coaches also deemed Roy Williams as the most overrated coach in America, so I find it hard to find any of their opinions credible if those idiots think that. How a man with two national championships and seven final fours is overrated is a laughable opinion at best. But facts are unimportant these days, agenda is all that matters for those jealous, cowardly coaches I reckon.

Considering I didn't take it from CBS Sports.....
My my I think thou doth protesteth too much.
Calipari is at best a careless administrator who has no control over his program at worst....

I can tell you Scott Drew is hated passionately down here and viewed as the worst cheat in the region. But Cal takes it to a whole new level. He is the king of plausible deniability.

Purple Haize wrote:Considering I didn't take it from CBS Sports.....
My my I think thou doth protesteth too much.
Calipari is at best a careless administrator who has no control over his program at worst....

So are you saying then that some other organization did the exact same survey with the exact same 100 coaches and received the exact same number of votes for each coach with the exact same comments that CBS has? That sounds like the "work" of a UNC African Studies major to me then.

Sly Fox wrote:I can tell you Scott Drew is hated passionately down here and viewed as the worst cheat in the region. But Cal takes it to a whole new level. He is the king of plausible deniability.

Perception and reality are two different things though, one is often not the same.

Sly Fox wrote:I can tell you Scott Drew is hated passionately down here and viewed as the worst cheat in the region. But Cal takes it to a whole new level. He is the king of plausible deniability.

I am surprised Baylor isn't in on this deal....

Also, I don't think Mark Turgeon is the best recruiter. He couldn't even pull someone that lived with my family for years to come to A&M over Valpo...just stating a fact.

lynchburgwildcats wrote:

Sly Fox wrote:I can tell you Scott Drew is hated passionately down here and viewed as the worst cheat in the region. But Cal takes it to a whole new level. He is the king of plausible deniability.

Perception and reality are two different things though, one is often not the same.

That worked great for OJ!

jmdickens wrote:

Sly Fox wrote:I can tell you Scott Drew is hated passionately down here and viewed as the worst cheat in the region. But Cal takes it to a whole new level. He is the king of plausible deniability.

I am surprised Baylor isn't in on this deal....

The twins probably looked at how poorly Drew's recruits have done compared to their pre-college hype. He went and turned PJ3 from a sure lottery pick coming out of high school to barely drafted in the first round along with a slew of other players who have flopped.

Sometimes you just don't get what you pay for....

They are coming to my Terps...if they dont come we will still lock up Roddy Peters as a consolation prize..FEAR THE TURGE

Rivals is reporting the Harrisons have picked Kentucky.

A source close to the Harrison's tells Cats Illustrated that the twins have made their choice. Head to the House of Blue to find out where the source says they're headed.

http://kentucky.rivals.com/ Unfortunately you have to be a Rivals member to get any more info than that.