A Sea Of Red

UNC posted a Julius Peppers transcript that shows he never had a GPA over 1.9. ACC requires a 2.0 to be academically eligible.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/08/13/ ... MI_emailed
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/201 ... ne-to-see/

UNC and academics in the same sentence? LOL!!!!

flameshaw wrote:UNC and academics in the same sentence? LOL!!!!

Or as Daggum Roy would like to refer it to as not a basketball problem. That will only be the case unless the NCAA decides to sweep it under the rug like they did with Duke and Corey Maggette.

Too bad UNC football doesn't have a famous coach, so I'm sure the worldwide leader will mention it for about 30 seconds.

jbock13 wrote:Too bad UNC football doesn't have a famous coach, so I'm sure the worldwide leader will mention it for about 30 seconds.

This scandal is bigger than football, Peppers was part of their basketball team and the majority of the 2005 basketball national championship squad "graduated" with degrees from this fraudulent African Studies department.

UNC has a decent Quiz Bowl team, but LU still beat them last year, 295-280.

Cider Jim wrote:UNC has a decent Quiz Bowl team, but LU still beat them last year, 295-280.

Must not have been enough Swahili and African Studies questions during the match then!

jbock13 wrote:Too bad UNC football doesn't have a famous coach, so I'm sure the worldwide leader will mention it for about 30 seconds.

covering up academic fraud and covering up sexual abuse are two completely different things. The fact that you are trying to even hint that they should similar is ridiculous....but its par for the course I guess with you I suppose.

the reason why you aren't hearing about it on espn? John Skipper, the President of ESPN and executive VP of content, is a UNC grad.

And guess what he majored in? African and Afro American Studies. You can't make this up. Dude probably got a fraudulent degree from the school at the heart of academic fraud. Only way ESPN covers the basketball side of the scandal is if Disney/ABC forces them to. ESPN will do everything in their power to ensure this is swept under the rug.

Never said they were equal postman. I think you know better than to suggest that.

Ignoring athletics for a moment, it is really not good that a student transcript could just end up on the school's website that way. They're at least going to get dinged for a FERPA violation. It's probably also lucky for them that it was the transcript of Julius Peppers (in that he wouldn't benefit from suing them). A less famous alum would probably be talking to an attorney right now.

I also enjoyed this part from the N&O article:

The News & Observer wrote:University officials had little to say Monday about the transcript, which was first identified by rival N.C. State University fans on the PackPride bulletin board.

Yeah, you have to watch out for those athletics message boards. You never know what will come out when those kind of people go snooping around.

El Scorcho wrote:Ignoring athletics for a moment, it is really not good that a student transcript could just end up on the school's website that way. They're at least going to get dinged for a FERPA violation. It's probably also lucky for them that it was the transcript of Julius Peppers (in that he wouldn't benefit from suing them). A less famous alum would probably be talking to an attorney right now.

I also enjoyed this part from the N&O article:

The News & Observer wrote:University officials had little to say Monday about the transcript, which was first identified by rival N.C. State University fans on the PackPride bulletin board.

Yeah, you have to watch out for those athletics message boards. You never know what will come out when those kind of people go snooping around.

Yes, it's such a great sign of the times to see that a message board user is able to do more investigative work than the NCAA is.

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Yes, it's such a great sign of the times to see that a message board user is able to do more investigative work than the NCAA is.

Be honest, you just want this to happen so you feel better about what happened to Kentucky in 80's, and what's going to happen to them eventually.

blwall1416 wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Yes, it's such a great sign of the times to see that a message board user is able to do more investigative work than the NCAA is.

Be honest, you just want this to happen so you feel better about what happened to Kentucky in 80's, and what's going to happen to them eventually.

QFT (even though I dont have a dog in this fight)

blwall1416 wrote:

lynchburgwildcats wrote:Yes, it's such a great sign of the times to see that a message board user is able to do more investigative work than the NCAA is.

Be honest, you just want this to happen so you feel better about what happened to Kentucky in 80's, and what's going to happen to them eventually.

I want it because of all those holier than thou UNC fans that trumpet themselves as if they are some sort of superior race compared to everyone else, going around spreading propagandic filth about how they are better than you at this and that. UNC cheats their butts off just like every other high major D1 school, just as morally and ethically corrupt as the rest of them and are so darn stupid about it, they can't even figure out that it's a bad idea to post a transcript of an athlete in the fraudulent African and Afro-American Studies department.

North Carolina cheated and prospered, now it's time for reckoning

It's time for the NCAA to start digging. In the meantime, North Carolina should get a head start on some of its own chores.

For starters? There are some banners at the Smith Center that need to come down.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... -reckoning

I was excited to see somebody at least taking this seriously but then I saw it was Doyel... He's just out for clicks

You know as a Duke fan, it would be really easy for me to throw stones at UNC and get a few cheap shots in, but in actuality, this is a very sad situation not only for UNC, but also for the ACC and most importantly the state of North Carolina. I know that Duke football has always been the butt of jokes in college football, but at least we've always played by the rules. UNC has been trying so hard for several years to become a football powerhouse and apparently, at any cost it seems. They've made a mockery, as most colleges have done in the past, present and future, of the term student athlete and have given their academic reputation a black eye in the process.

As an LU alum, I know we can all get caught up in the excitement of our athletics and rightfully so. I just hope that our administration will always stick to our vision and never compromise that vision for a few wins in any sport, even if that means staying FCS and in the (gulp) Big South forever!

TH Spangler wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... -reckoning

See three posts above yours.

NY Times has picked up on it now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/sport ... wanted=all

Pretty fair article from Decourcy
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... estigation

It is all about money folks...had this happened at Liberty, the NCAA would come down hard.

UNC needs to get rid of Holden Thorp. He fired Butch Davis and tried to pin all the problems on the head coach but the problem stemmed from academics. Fire Holden Thorp

Well, UNC is finally getting serious about this jazz instead of treating America like a bunch of fools and trying to sweep it under the rug:
AN update from the school chancellor http://www.unc.edu/chan/chancellors/tho ... update.php

A summary of what they are going to do:

- Former Governor James G. Martin agrees to lead continuing review of courses (this might very well be the biggest step)

As part of our ongoing review of academic irregularities disclosed in May in our review of courses in African and Afro-American Studies, we have been reviewing the extent to which irregularities may have occurred prior to 2007. In consultation with our Board of Trustees and UNC President Tom Ross, we have asked James G. Martin, former N.C. governor and a former professor at Davidson College, to lead an independent review of any additional academic irregularities that may have occurred. Governor Martin’s expanded review will be assisted by Virchow, Krause & Company, LLP, a national management consulting firm with extensive experience in academic performance audit procedures and controls. Members of the Board of Trustees, President Ross and I all believe that this is an important step in rebuilding the confidence that you deserve to have in our academic integrity. This review will begin immediately.

- Appointment of Hunter Rawlings to examine the role of athletics in the life of the University

- Changes in the academic support program for student athletes

We are implementing plans now to:

Reorganize the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes and Hire a New Leader. The College has, for several months, been engaged in the process of reorganizing the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes, and has launched a national search for a new director. Steve Matson, dean of the Graduate School, is chairing the search. The new director will report solely to the College of Arts and Sciences and will have the authority to manage the program’s budget. Harold Woodard, associate dean and director of the Center for Student Success and Academic Counseling, will serve as interim director of the Academic Support Program for Student Athletes. Collectively, these changes provide the opportunity to move forward with a fresh perspective.

Expand Academic Advising. Like all students at Carolina, each student-athlete is assigned a primary academic advisor through the College’s Academic Advising Program. The College will strengthen the role of the advisors by adding two new positions to monitor and oversee academic advising for student-athletes.

Coordinate and Clarify the Relationship between Academic Advising and the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes. We are making it unequivocally clear that the College of Arts and Sciences is in charge of Academic Advising and the Academic Support Program for Student-Athletes. The College will enhance its training and supervision of academic advisors and academic counselors to strengthen their distinct, but complementary, roles and responsibilities.

Expand the Summer Bridge Program. The College is expanding its successful summer residential academic support program to incorporate student-athletes who may need help with their personal and academic transition from high school to the University.

Strengthen Faculty Involvement in Athletics. We are strengthening relationships among the Faculty Advisory Committee of the Academic Support Program, the Faculty Athletics Committee and the faculty representative to the ACC/NCAA. Professor Joy Renner, the new chair of the Faculty Athletics Committee, spent the summer meeting with members of her committee, the administration and Athletics Department to discuss how the committee can better ensure academic integrity and full integration of student-athletes into the life of the University. To meet the complex challenges associated with balancing academic and athletic excellence, it’s essential that faculty be visibly engaged in relevant policies and practices.