A Sea Of Red

Especially when your success determines a grade in a class. Our Sport Finance class has a fantasy football league, and TTL and I are co-owners of the Dallas Pumas.

Our team is the higest scoring team in the league, averaging 10 points higher than the next best team, and yet we are about to go 2-7! Absolute Garbage!

you paid money for this class?

There's more to the project then running the team I'm sure Rubber...

I remember the best class when i was in school being the one where we acted as the AD at a college and made football schedules... I learned a lot from this practice.

You should have asked me....I am the FF guru...hence me being in first place in the Flame Fans FF league

and you paid money for that class? Making football schedules?....

Even though you got knocked off by a below .500 team this week and VERY nearly lost to me before that?

prototype wrote:There's more to the project then running the team I'm sure Rubber...

I remember the best class when i was in school being the one where we acted as the AD at a college and made football schedules... I learned a lot from this practice.

That's correct

Budget sheets, Mini EIA's, Organizational Charts, Ticketing Packages, Event planning, etc etc. It's just all based off our fantasy football "franchise." Our actual project at this point is about 30 pages and weve got at least another 15 to do by the end of the semester, so there is good deal of learning and work involved.

Our team is really good. We just happen to catch teams with a really good day. Drew Brees Week 1, Jared Allen on MNF. This week we lost in the 4th Quarter of last nights game when Champ Bailey got 5 tackles in a row.

so its madden 10 franchise mode that cost you 1200 bucks a semester

RubberMallet wrote:so its madden 10 franchise mode that cost you 1200 bucks a semester

Yes and No. Yes that part of the class is a more detailed version of Madden 10, but there's plenty of normal "class" procedures involved. Plus our professor may be one of the best business minds at LU, so we certainly get more learning out of this class than a different prof and setup.

RubberMallet wrote:and you paid money for that class? Making football schedules?....

I believe you should know...Weren't you in my class? I think you represented Bitter University;)

I think that exercises like this are much better than lecturing. It lets the students do something that is more like the real world and make concussions on their own - through experiences. As a grad and a business owner, I wish Liberty SMGT would do more of this like they did in the Gibson/Yarborough era.

Can't argue that these types of projects aren't effective - the best professor in Liberty History utilized these types of exercises...Dr. George.

What Id like to see (coming from someone who took both coaching classes) is not only students getting to do more of what proto is talking about but for the coaching majors and minors they ought to observe and/or help out with local high school teams so that they can get experience which would help them get their foot in the door.

BJWilliams wrote:What Id like to see (coming from someone who took both coaching classes) is not only students getting to do more of what proto is talking about but for the coaching majors and minors they ought to observe and/or help out with local high school teams so that they can get experience which would help them get their foot in the door.

That's called an internship. Or a Presbyterian Head Coach.

Point taken Sch14...and HMO mentioned the FF Fantasy league...anybody else have their matchup this week come down to the MNF game? Ive had that happen two or three times this season (won last night and lost the others)

prototype wrote:

RubberMallet wrote:and you paid money for that class? Making football schedules?....

I believe you should know...Weren't you in my class? I think you represented Bitter University;)

I think that exercises like this are much better than lecturing. It lets the students do something that is more like the real world and make concussions on their own - through experiences. As a grad and a business owner, I wish Liberty SMGT would do more of this like they did in the Gibson/Yarborough era.

Can't argue that these types of projects aren't effective - the best professor in Liberty History utilized these types of exercises...Dr. George.

yeah sorry, the stock game was one of the easiest things i did in college...and i learned nothing from it. dr george is great but that the stock game was like "if you can't figure this out, don't expect much out of life"

BJWilliams wrote:What Id like to see (coming from someone who took both coaching classes) is not only students getting to do more of what proto is talking about but for the coaching majors and minors they ought to observe and/or help out with local high school teams so that they can get experience which would help them get their foot in the door.

You mean the 70 hour practicum we were required to do?

Or the 200 hour mini-internship we can get credit for?

Or are you talking about the 400 hour internship we're required?

We get plenty of chances to get in the door. It's all a matter of if you use them effectively or not.

I took my practicum in the spring of 07. It led to an internship which led to a job which led to a graduate assistant position. I took my practicum seriously. Other people with our major that didn't have any luck finding jobs and end up going into something completely different.

SuperJon wrote:Other people with our major that didn't have no luck finding jobs and end up going into something completely different.

Nice one

Schfourteenteen wrote:

BJWilliams wrote:What Id like to see (coming from someone who took both coaching classes) is not only students getting to do more of what proto is talking about but for the coaching majors and minors they ought to observe and/or help out with local high school teams so that they can get experience which would help them get their foot in the door.

That's called an internship. Or a Presbyterian Head Coach.

In coaching basketball, we had to spend 20 hours watching a local HS practice. The opportunities are there, you just have to take advantage.

jcmanson wrote:

SuperJon wrote:Other people with our major that didn't have no luck finding jobs and end up going into something completely different.

Nice one

Ha, that's me having two different ways of saying the same thing in my head and mixing them up.

I stand corrected then...thanks for the perspective SJ and TDD and Sch14

RubberMallet wrote:

prototype wrote:

RubberMallet wrote:and you paid money for that class? Making football schedules?....

I believe you should know...Weren't you in my class? I think you represented Bitter University;)

I think that exercises like this are much better than lecturing. It lets the students do something that is more like the real world and make concussions on their own - through experiences. As a grad and a business owner, I wish Liberty SMGT would do more of this like they did in the Gibson/Yarborough era.

Can't argue that these types of projects aren't effective - the best professor in Liberty History utilized these types of exercises...Dr. George.

yeah sorry, the stock game was one of the easiest things i did in college...and i learned nothing from it. Dr George is great but that the stock game was like "if you can't figure this out, don't expect much out of life"

You obviously only took him for the low level business class that everyone was required to take -Policy. Take Collective Bargaining/Labor Relations with him and the simulation was far from easy. Took 4 of his classes - his classes challenged me and were the only classes I ever pulled all-nighters for.

Sounds like you were just a "sit at your desk, get lectured to, take test" kind of guy. I give the current Profs credit for trying to think out of the box with their curriculum. I called this so-called professor about this to make sure I was stating facts, not rumors - the Fantasy football part of this simulation is only 50 points out of 1,000 - that's half of one percent towards their grade for this project.

prototype wrote:

RubberMallet wrote:

prototype wrote:
I believe you should know...Weren't you in my class? I think you represented Bitter University;)

I think that exercises like this are much better than lecturing. It lets the students do something that is more like the real world and make concussions on their own - through experiences. As a grad and a business owner, I wish Liberty SMGT would do more of this like they did in the Gibson/Yarborough era.

Can't argue that these types of projects aren't effective - the best professor in Liberty History utilized these types of exercises...Dr. George.

yeah sorry, the stock game was one of the easiest things i did in college...and i learned nothing from it. Dr George is great but that the stock game was like "if you can't figure this out, don't expect much out of life"

You obviously only took him for the low level business class that everyone was required to take -Policy. Take Collective Bargaining/Labor Relations with him and the simulation was far from easy. Took 4 of his classes - his classes challenged me and were the only classes I ever pulled all-nighters for.

Sounds like you were just a "sit at your desk, get lectured to, take test" kind of guy. I give the current Profs credit for trying to think out of the box with their curriculum. I called this so-called professor about this to make sure I was stating facts, not rumors - the Fantasy football part of this simulation is only 50 points out of 1,000 - that's half of one percent towards their grade for this project.

sorry no graduate school for me where specialized classes are the soupdejour.

"Sounds like you were just a "take test" kind of guy. "

and i fixed that for you. luconn can attest to that.

graduate school is completely unnecessary for where i want to be in life and college was a resume filler for me.

50/1000

=


5%.

Not

.5%

hopefully he has an accountant do his books.

RubberMallet wrote:hopefully he has an accountant do his books.

I have 7;)

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