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John Wall to Kentucky
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 11:47 am
by TDDance234
How long before Calipari and Kentucky are on probation?
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 1:15 pm
by blwall1416
Well, the word is he initially gave Miami an informal commitment last week, then turned back to Coach Cal.
Also....
I wonder how Wall will like coming off the bench:
Bledsoe signed with Kentucky on Wednesday and proceeded to say the following.
"He (Calipari) told me I’d be his starting point guard.”
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/go ... E_SALESMAN
And, prior to John's commitment....
"The Wildcats have 16 players on scholarship now, three over the NCAA maximum of 13. Adding Meeks will put the Wildcats at 17. Calipari has said recently he expects the scholarship situation to work its way out this summer."
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 1:37 pm
by TDDance234
They aren't out of the woods yet with Bledsoe and/or Cousins. They still have to qualify, which if the rumors are correct, they are struggling to do. Jon Hood may pay his way the first year.
We need our resident Kentucky "expert" to chime in.
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 1:40 pm
by LUconn
I think I liked the sport better without the 1 year NBA waiting period.
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 2:54 pm
by BJWilliams
Mike and Mike were discussing that this morning and I think Greeny suggested that the NBA consider trying it the way baseball does: Kids are welcome to come out in high school, but if they do go to college, they have to commit to at least two years (I know in MLB its three) in college. That way the kids that feel they are ready right out can go but the college game can still get some decent talent that can be developed.
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 3:03 pm
by dompennix
Well he's gonna play 1 year of college and then go straight to the league, at least he didn't take the Brandon Jennings route and go overseas for a year
Posted: May 19th, 2009, 6:31 pm
by ToTheLeft
BJWilliams wrote:Mike and Mike were discussing that this morning and I think Greeny suggested that the NBA consider trying it the way baseball does: Kids are welcome to come out in high school, but if they do go to college, they have to commit to at least two years (I know in MLB its three) in college. That way the kids that feel they are ready right out can go but the college game can still get some decent talent that can be developed.
This doesn't solve any problems tho. Let the adults do what they want. Wanna come right out of high school? Go ahead! Wanna get an education and four years of preparation for the NBA? Your choice, as well. Wanna go overseas so you can play ball in preparation for the NBA without academics? Fine by us! You're 18, you're an adult.
Edit: I misread, I thought you said make them go to college for two years. I still don't like the thought of forcing someone to stay at a college, but making them commit to the NBA or NCAA would be better than forcing them to the NCAA with no other options, and have them waste a year at a school that just is used as a pro factory.
Football is different because of size issues. 18 year olds aren't physically ready for the NFL. Shawn Merriman/Ray Lewis/Brian Dawkins would kill some 6 foot 2 145 pound wideout if he came across the middle.
Posted: May 20th, 2009, 3:04 am
by SuperJon
I think college baseball is the best setup. You either go out of high school or once you step foot on a university's campus, you're there for three years. Then again, baseball has 800 rounds of the draft and 27 developmental leagues.
Posted: May 20th, 2009, 2:28 pm
by blwall1416
The Pimp Hand of John Calipari
John Calipari represents all that is wrong with college athletics. His win at all costs will end up costing up to four kids their dreams. But instead of legislating this travesty, the NCAA would rather focus on text messaging. Or the hard core things like restricting the amount of money a kid can make during the SUMMER.
Why isn’t this news? The Four-Letter network won’t talk about this because….well, who cares about the 10th man on a basketball team. Jason Whitlock won’t write about it because it’s not polarizing enough. But as a college basketball fan and a fan of young, impressionable kids…..this writer will.
http://www.talkingpointfreesports.com/a ... n_Calipari
Posted: May 20th, 2009, 3:11 pm
by LUconn
What does he expect the NCAA to do? Tell him he can't take away their ships?
On a side note, I'm starting to think you UNC fans are getting nervous. Your program is finally to the point where you have a decent coach and a program that basically recruits itself and can hand pick whatever burger boys they want. It's the dawning of a Tarheel golden age.... then a guy that was landing top 10 kids at Memphis State University gets a job with as much tradition as UNC. I think you guys are sweating.
Posted: May 20th, 2009, 3:48 pm
by blwall1416
Ha, ha, ha....trust me...no Tar Heel fan is sweating UK. I think the two programs with the most wins in the NCAA should play each other every year. This article points more towards honoring prior commitments.
Your program is finally to the point where you have a decent coach and a program that basically recruits itself and can hand pick whatever burger boys they want.
Finally?
Posted: May 20th, 2009, 3:58 pm
by LUconn
as in the latter half of this decade
Posted: May 21st, 2009, 7:04 pm
by flamesbball84
TDDance234 wrote:They aren't out of the woods yet with Bledsoe and/or Cousins. They still have to qualify, which if the rumors are correct, they are struggling to do. Jon Hood may pay his way the first year.
We need our resident Kentucky "expert" to chime in.
All three statements are extraordinarily incorrect. Bledsoe has gotten the grades to qualify. Cousins has like a 3.5 gpa, all he has to do is take the SAT/ACT and he gets in based on his grades. Jon Hood, his parents, and Calipari have all said Hood isn't paying his own way whatsoever.
Posted: May 21st, 2009, 7:06 pm
by flamesbball84
blwall1416 wrote:Well, the word is he initially gave Miami an informal commitment last week, then turned back to Coach Cal.
Also....
I wonder how Wall will like coming off the bench:
Bledsoe signed with Kentucky on Wednesday and proceeded to say the following.
"He (Calipari) told me I’d be his starting point guard.”
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/go ... E_SALESMAN
Bledsoe was misquoted. Calipari never told him that. Jeff Goodman proves to be wrong yet again, he pretty much is 99% of the time when it comes to Kentucky though.
Posted: May 21st, 2009, 7:27 pm
by flamesbball84
blwall1416 wrote:The Pimp Hand of John Calipari
John Calipari represents all that is wrong with college athletics. His win at all costs will end up costing up to four kids their dreams. But instead of legislating this travesty, the NCAA would rather focus on text messaging. Or the hard core things like restricting the amount of money a kid can make during the SUMMER.
Why isn’t this news? The Four-Letter network won’t talk about this because….well, who cares about the 10th man on a basketball team. Jason Whitlock won’t write about it because it’s not polarizing enough. But as a college basketball fan and a fan of young, impressionable kids…..this writer will.
http://www.talkingpointfreesports.com/a ... n_Calipari
If this guy would do research, which he clearly never made a single attempt to do so, he'd realize that he is adamantly wrong in his statement that "His win at all costs will end up costing up to four kids their dreams":
Donald Williams - was only going to be given a guaranteed scholarship for one year when BCG brought him in, he'd ahve to earn his scholarship this year. Most likely to transfer anyways. Either way, he's taking himself off the team, that leaves it at 16
AJ Stewart - very likely to transfer regardless of who is coaching and rather he has his scholarship pulled. Even if he doesn't transfer, his grades might not even be good enough for him to be eligible. Either way, he's taking himself off the team and that leaves 15.
DeAndre Liggins - Not likely to make the grades to be eligible from what I'm hearing, so his scholarship would not be renewed, thus eliminating himself from the process. That leaves 14.
Seniors - Calipari has told every single senior that if they want to be on the team, they will be on the team. So seniors won't have to be concerned about having their scholarship yanked for their final year, another indication this man did absolutely no homework before writing this diatribe.
So what does that mean? Only one guy will lose their scholarship (that's if Meeks comes back), and there are several players on the team that can get a full academic scholarship. So how is that breaking the hearts of 4 players, my research shows only ? Only one player is possibly going to lose their scholarship due to the incoming talent. One player, that's less than Tubby Smith did at Minnesota this spring, pulling the scholarships of two players. Where's his rant on Tubby?
Besides, if you can play at Kentucky, you can get a bball scholarship somewhere else. I'm sure Big South teams would love to have a kid that was good enough to get a scholarship at Kentucky.
Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 9:13 am
by blwall1416
Got 'em
It's all good, shuk.........just giving you a hard time.
Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 10:18 am
by Hold My Own
And the Homer Award for 2009 goes to....
Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 2:55 pm
by flamesbball84
Hold My Own wrote:And the Homer Award for 2009 goes to....
it's not homerism if it's truth...
Posted: May 22nd, 2009, 5:11 pm
by flamesbball84
Andy Katz is reporting that three UK players have been told they will lose their scholarship for academic reasons. That leaves one just one player who could possibly have their dreams crushed, and that's only if Meeks comes back...
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 8:31 am
by LUconn
not John Wall related but here we go!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4210798
It will be hilarious if he is cleared. He will be the only active coach with a vacated final 4 appearance. And he will actually have 2 of them. With a clean record. But he had nothing to do with any of it... riiiight.
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 8:50 am
by jcmanson
LUconn wrote: But he had nothing to do with any of it... riiiight.
Yeah I don't see how anyone can say he had NOTHING to do with it.
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 10:03 am
by flamesbball84
STATEMENT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
First and foremost, there are no NCAA allegations against UK Head Men's Basketball Coach John Calipari. Coach Calipari was forthcoming with the University of Kentucky during the hiring process about any issues under investigation at the University of Memphis at that time.
It is normal procedure for the NCAA to ask a former coach to participate in a hearing. Therefore, Coach Calipari will participate as requested.
Coach John Calipari has received a letter from the NCAA stating that he is not at risk of being charged with any NCAA violations in this case.
This is a University of Memphis issue and the University of Kentucky will not comment any further.
UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY MEN'S BASKETBALL COACH JOHN CALIPARI
"Even though I'm not at risk, I will fully cooperate with the NCAA hearing. Beyond that, I concur with the statement from the University of Kentucky and will have no further comment."
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 10:19 am
by jcmanson
They can say what they want, but he at least had knowledge of what was going on.
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 10:33 am
by LUconn
flamesbball84 wrote:STATEMENT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY
First and foremost, there are no NCAA allegations against UK Head Men's Basketball Coach John Calipari. Coach Calipari was forthcoming with the University of Kentucky during the hiring process about any issues under investigation at the University of Memphis at that time.
It is normal procedure for the NCAA to ask a former coach to participate in a hearing. Therefore, Coach Calipari will participate as requested.
Coach John Calipari has received a letter from the NCAA stating that he is not at risk of being charged with any NCAA violations in this case.
This is a University of Memphis issue and the University of Kentucky will not comment any further.
UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY MEN'S BASKETBALL COACH JOHN CALIPARI
"Even though I'm not at risk, I will fully cooperate with the NCAA hearing. Beyond that, I concur with the statement from the University of Kentucky and will have no further comment."
If the SAT thing is true, that final 4 is gone. Do you really think a coach with 2 vacated final 4s has no idea this stuff is going on? And that makes him 2 for 2 at his last 2 cbb coaching gigs. I'm sure in 5-10 years you guys will be perfectly happy that his record will still be clean but you'll have a couple of vacated final 4s of your own.