[JakeP50]

If I'm still in school when that first Sun Belt home game comes around, I'm heading over to Gillville as soon as my last class is over and warming up to "welcome" whatever Sun Belt school it is to the Bill.

[jbock13]

Will you be forming a welcoming committee?

[JakeP50]

A welcoming committee of sorts, not a very friendly one though.

[Schfourteenteen]

I just appreciate that SCAR's picture is a photo of him an Nick Pierce. Riding coattails or celebrity photo op?

[TIMSCAR20]

I just appreciate that SCAR's picture is a photo of him an Nick Pierce. Riding coattails or celebrity photo op?

:I chortle audibly.:

I will gladly ride Nick's coattails. He is big time! I may have a new one after tomorrow if we use ESPN microphones during tomorrow's baseball game. Pierce and me are on the call for the opening game of the Coastal series in an ESPN 3 exclusive.

[flamehunter]

Scar doing baseball? A man of many talents!

[TH Spangler]

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/spor ... s/8877055/

[JakeP50]

Scar doing baseball? A man of many talents!

Even though it's free I would pay to see this, this seems like the LU version of Gus Johnson commentating golf.

[TH Spangler]

http://archive.theadvertiser.com/articl ... rts-Writer

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/spor ... s/8877055/

[Liberty22]

Hear me out before you jump all over what I am about to say.

If we do not get the invite, I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD SUE THE NCAA, but

I do think we have a case we could present to NCAA Leadership. There are enough articles of evidence out there that we would be deemed "not a right fit". There is also the evidence of being the most FBS ready school to ever try and make the jump. Could that combination be enough for JR to go to NCAA Leadership and show all the things we have going for us in addition to the sun belt choosing (if they do) to wait for other schools. It seems childish to wait for other schools to get up to par, when you have the most ready school waiting. I would think this would be enough to show NCAA that we can do this, let us move up. Could it change their minds? Hopefully, it doesn't come to that but one would think we would have a case to be made.

[forbidden]

It seems to me that no one really knows. But what I was just told the other day is sort of contrary to what's being bandied about on the boards. I hope these kids get to play a lot more of the full D1 schools.

[PAmedic]

LIB22 I think you may be slightly over-estimating our importance to the NCAA

slightly. as in RIDICULOUSLY.

[Curtisc83]

It seems to me that no one really knows. But what I was just told the other day is sort of contrary to what's being bandied about on the boards. I hope these kids get to play a lot more of the full D1 schools.

What were you told? I don't need specifics I just want to know is it looking good for an FBS invite or not.

[Purple Haize]

It seems to me that no one really knows. But what I was just told the other day is sort of contrary to what's being bandied about on the boards. I hope these kids get to play a lot more of the full D1 schools.

here we go again

[Liberty22]

LIB22 I think you may be slightly over-estimating our importance to the NCAA

slightly. as in RIDICULOUSLY.

This has nothing to do with perceived importance. It has to do with what is right. Just because I suggest that we could say hey, take an objective look at what is going on, doesn't mean that they would but it would be worth a shot. Nothing more. I get that you need to be a prick in order to feel important on this board but this isn't one of those times.

[BCXtreme]

Hear me out before you jump all over what I am about to say.

If we do not get the invite, I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD SUE THE NCAA, but

I do think we have a case we could present to NCAA Leadership. There are enough articles of evidence out there that we would be deemed "not a right fit". There is also the evidence of being the most FBS ready school to ever try and make the jump. Could that combination be enough for JR to go to NCAA Leadership and show all the things we have going for us in addition to the sun belt choosing (if they do) to wait for other schools. It seems childish to wait for other schools to get up to par, when you have the most ready school waiting. I would think this would be enough to show NCAA that we can do this, let us move up. Could it change their minds? Hopefully, it doesn't come to that but one would think we would have a case to be made.

LIB22 I think you may be slightly over-estimating our importance to the NCAA

slightly. as in RIDICULOUSLY.

If it turns out that Liberty is ultimately unable to jump to FBS due to widespread consensus among FBS conferences to not admit more private schools to that level, I think it would be worth talking casually to the NCAA about it. They may not consider Liberty very important, but if we demonstrate significant reason to believe that all 10 FBS conferences are united in blocking the addition of more private schools to the FBS, the NCAA might sit down and re-think that. The top 20 nationally ranked universities are all private institutions, and many private colleges participate at every other level of the NCAA; therefore, they might not want to continue a policy that proves to indirectly allow discrimination against these schools.

That being said, we are nowhere near there yet. There are far too many alternative reasons a conference could cite for not inviting us: online enrollment, political controversy, athletics record, academic standards, et cetera. None of those would provide a basis for the NCAA to question their rules. If someday Liberty has sufficiently distanced itself from the early beliefs of Jerry Falwell in the eyes of the public, is a ranked national university (or at least a highly ranked regional university), has national championships in at least a few major NCAA team sports, and enrolls 25k-30k residential students, but is still not able to garner an FBS invite just because it's a private school, then perhaps the NCAA would have something to think about. But that's talking about decades down the road, if ever.

[adam42381]

LIB22 I think you may be slightly over-estimating our importance to the NCAA

slightly. as in RIDICULOUSLY.

This has nothing to do with perceived importance. It has to do with what is right. Just because I suggest that we could say hey, take an objective look at what is going on, doesn't mean that they would but it would be worth a shot. Nothing more. I get that you need to be a prick in order to feel important on this board but this isn't one of those times.

Shots fired. And here I was under the impression that personal attacks were frowned upon around here.

[Blessed1]

Hear me out before you jump all over what I am about to say.

If we do not get the invite, I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD SUE THE NCAA, but

I do think we have a case we could present to NCAA Leadership. There are enough articles of evidence out there that we would be deemed "not a right fit". There is also the evidence of being the most FBS ready school to ever try and make the jump. Could that combination be enough for JR to go to NCAA Leadership and show all the things we have going for us in addition to the sun belt choosing (if they do) to wait for other schools. It seems childish to wait for other schools to get up to par, when you have the most ready school waiting. I would think this would be enough to show NCAA that we can do this, let us move up. Could it change their minds? Hopefully, it doesn't come to that but one would think we would have a case to be made.

I hear what you're saying. Liberty is a special case due to us being a private school trying to join leagues that consist of public schools. I believe we would have a case in that regard.

However, let's say the NCAA grants Liberty a waiver to join FBS, schools may be upset to the point where they may not want to schedule Liberty (at least in football). With that said, how would Liberty fulfill their obligation as an FBS school to play at least a minimum of 5 home games (I believe that it the minimum amount)?

Liberty 's best bet (no pun intended) is align with other FBS hopefuls and make a request to the NCAA on the basis that conference realignment has halted and they (LU and the other FCS schools involved) qualify for FBS, meaning they meet attendance, staffing and Title IX requirements. The problem with this approach is, truthfully speaking, Liberty is probably the only school that has all of those things going for them lined up, the other schools involved would have to get on the ball to make something like this justifiable for review.

[Liberty22]

I hear what you're saying. Liberty is a special case due to us being a private school trying to join leagues that consist of public schools. I believe we would have a case in that regard.

However, let's say the NCAA grants Liberty a waiver to join FBS, schools may be upset to the point where they may not want to schedule Liberty (at least in football). With that said, how would Liberty fulfill their obligation as an FBS school to play at least a minimum of 5 home games (I believe that it the minimum amount)?

Liberty 's best bet (no pun intended) is align with other FBS hopefuls and make a request to the NCAA on the basis that conference realignment has halted and they (LU and the other FCS schools involved) qualify for FBS, meaning they meet attendance, staffing and Title IX requirements. The problem with this approach is, truthfully speaking, Liberty is probably the only school that has all of those things going for them lined up, the other schools involved would have to get on the ball to make something like this justifiable for review.

All true points. It's all hypothetical which was all I was saying. It would be difficult to schedule but does that mean the conversation shouldn't be had, I don't know.

[PAmedic]

LIB22 I think you may be slightly over-estimating our importance to the NCAA

slightly. as in RIDICULOUSLY.

This has nothing to do with perceived importance. It has to do with what is right. Just because I suggest that we could say hey, take an objective look at what is going on, doesn't mean that they would but it would be worth a shot. Nothing more. I get that you need to be a prick in order to feel important on this board but this isn't one of those times.

Shots fired. And here I was under the impression that personal attacks were frowned upon around here. :I chortle audibly.:

well he seems to know me.

except that I don't do it to feel important on here.

its just what I do.

[jbock13]

Hey guys, why don't we create a WAC western division? Has anybody ever thought of that?

[JakeP50]

Hey guys, why don't we create a WAC western division? Has anybody ever thought of that?

[VAGolf]

Hey guys, why don't we create a WAC western division? Has anybody ever thought of that?

ORRRRR!

We could petition the CFL!

[C4CFlame17]

Hear me out before you jump all over what I am about to say.

If we do not get the invite, I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD SUE THE NCAA, but

I do think we have a case we could present to NCAA Leadership. There are enough articles of evidence out there that we would be deemed "not a right fit". There is also the evidence of being the most FBS ready school to ever try and make the jump. Could that combination be enough for JR to go to NCAA Leadership and show all the things we have going for us in addition to the sun belt choosing (if they do) to wait for other schools. It seems childish to wait for other schools to get up to par, when you have the most ready school waiting. I would think this would be enough to show NCAA that we can do this, let us move up. Could it change their minds? Hopefully, it doesn't come to that but one would think we would have a case to be made.

I hear what you're saying. Liberty is a special case due to us being a private school trying to join leagues that consist of public schools. I believe we would have a case in that regard.

However, let's say the NCAA grants Liberty a waiver to join FBS, schools may be upset to the point where they may not want to schedule Liberty (at least in football). With that said, how would Liberty fulfill their obligation as an FBS school to play at least a minimum of 5 home games (I believe that it the minimum amount)?

Liberty 's best bet (no pun intended) is align with other FBS hopefuls and make a request to the NCAA on the basis that conference realignment has halted and they (LU and the other FCS schools involved) qualify for FBS, meaning they meet attendance, staffing and Title IX requirements. The problem with this approach is, truthfully speaking, Liberty is probably the only school that has all of those things going for them lined up, the other schools involved would have to get on the ball to make something like this justifiable for review.

Are you suggesting a new FBS Conference? Imagine a conference founded by Liberty, EKU, Mo State, JMU, Jax State, and anyone else looking for a new home. I like this idea.

[alabama24]

Hey guys, why don't we create a WAC WESTERN division?

Hmm. I know you were trying to crack a joke, but please tell me you know your geography.