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By BJWilliams
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Will be interesting to see who follows suit since all non-boarding private schools can now apply for membership
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By BJWilliams
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I mean as far as private schools applying to the VHSL...LU's situation would be a whole different lawsuit (and accompanying craziness)
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By Purple Haize
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I thinker they were duped. The article said they were joining the Seminole District. Unless they changed things there hasn't been an official Seminole District in 2 years.

Interesting that transfers have to sit a year. The devil will be in the details there
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By Purple Haize
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Yacht Rock wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I thinker they were duped. The article said they were joining the Seminole District. Unless they changed things there hasn't been an official Seminole District in 2 years.

Interesting that transfers have to sit a year. The devil will be in the details there
Looks like there is according to VHSL

http://www.vhsl.org/doc/upload/alignmen ... 016-17.pdf
It looks like they changed it. Again. I didnt dive deep enough into it to see how they are playing Regions and Districts etc. hopefully, it will go back to the way it was because the last 2 years were awful.
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By Cider Jim
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It so made the Lynchburg paper:
LCA will be a member of the Seminole District and will join the other seven schools which make up that district: E.C. Glass, Heritage, Liberty, Amherst, Brookville, Rustburg and Jefferson Forest.

The Bulldogs also will compete in the newly aligned Conference 23 — along with Amherst, Glass, Jefferson Forest, Charlottesville and GW-Danville — and will be a member of Region 4A West. LCA currently has 812 students, so the school has been given a 1.5 multiplier per student to make up for that deficit.
http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/high_ ... ff5de.html
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By VAGolf
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I haven't read up on it yet but I wonder how/if this will affect home-school teams. If home-school teams aren't included in VHSL, I wonder if that will be used to pass the Tebow bill.
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By Purple Haize
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VAGolf wrote:I haven't read up on it yet but I wonder how/if this will affect home-school teams. If home-school teams aren't included in VHSL, I wonder if that will be used to pass the Tebow bill.
Could be a compromise of it. I think sitting out 1 year for transfers persuaded A LOT of coaches and Admin's. No more being enrolled at JF on Monday and playing for LCA by Friday situations. On the surface I like it. I would imagine both sides gave in a little and the law suit was dropped
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By alabama24
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Purple Haize wrote:
VAGolf wrote:I haven't read up on it yet but I wonder how/if this will affect home-school teams. If home-school teams aren't included in VHSL, I wonder if that will be used to pass the Tebow bill.
Could be a compromise of it. I think sitting out 1 year for transfers persuaded A LOT of coaches and Admin's. No more being enrolled at JF on Monday and playing for LCA by Friday situations. On the surface I like it. I would imagine both sides gave in a little and the law suit was dropped
It's a great start. I assume that students don't have to sit out to transfer from one public school to another... the rules should apply across the board...
By ATrain
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So what is the difference between district and conference? I don't get it.
By Chris Lang
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The Seminole District and Dogwood Districts are merely scheduling alignments at this point for the regular season. There are no more district tournaments. That's why teams don't keep district records any more. With some of the conferences having eight teams and others having only five, scheduling would be a nightmare if you went by "conference" affiliation. So the local scheduling affiliations persevere.
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By Purple Haize
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alabama24 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
VAGolf wrote:I haven't read up on it yet but I wonder how/if this will affect home-school teams. If home-school teams aren't included in VHSL, I wonder if that will be used to pass the Tebow bill.
Could be a compromise of it. I think sitting out 1 year for transfers persuaded A LOT of coaches and Admin's. No more being enrolled at JF on Monday and playing for LCA by Friday situations. On the surface I like it. I would imagine both sides gave in a little and the law suit was dropped
It's a great start. I assume that students don't have to sit out to transfer from one public school to another... the rules should apply across the board...
Depending on the circumstance, yes they do have to sit out a year. The big issue was of kids attending a Public School who may or may not be eligible suddenly showing up in an LCA uniform. IMO, it was a good thing to put in the agreement.
I have 0 problem with LCA being in the VHSL
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By Purple Haize
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Chris Lang wrote:The Seminole District and Dogwood Districts are merely scheduling alignments at this point for the regular season. There are no more district tournaments. That's why teams don't keep district records any more. With some of the conferences having eight teams and others having only five, scheduling would be a nightmare if you went by "conference" affiliation. So the local scheduling affiliations persevere.
Yes, the whole mix up a few years ago KILLED local bragging rights. Having won the Seminole or Dogwood used to mean something. Doesn't have the same feeling being Region 23 Champs.
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By Cider Jim
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Only 8 comments on the News & Advance article? I figured the locals would have lit this up like a Christmas tree. Isn't this huge local sports news?

I've haven't been to a high school football game since, well, when I was in high school (36 years ago), but the thought of Glass and Heritage playing LCA in football at Williams Stadium sounds pretty exciting!

http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/high_ ... k-comments
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By Purple Haize
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Cider Jim wrote:Only 8 comments on the News & Advance article? I figured the locals would have lit this up like a Christmas tree. Isn't this huge local sports news?

I've haven't been to a high school football game since, well, when I was in high school (36 years ago), but the thought of Glass and Heritage playing LCA in football at Williams Stadium sounds pretty exciting!

http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/high_ ... k-comments
We begged for years to play LCA. Our case was this: Quality opponent who lives right next to us,. So instead of the time money and effort of bussing us to Charlottesville or Roanoke we can have a game against a team who travels well, thus increasing gate and concessions. Not to mention better local coverage in the press. (We made the same argument when HC was really good). Got shut down every time. Good thing I'm not in Sales for a living. Oh....wait...
Did they try to recruit our players? Yes they did. We never saw it as that big of a deal. You do what you do, we will do what we do. The only issue becomes the 'financial aid'. I did not see that addressed anywhere. Does anyone know?
By ballcoach15
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Recruiting has been alive and well in VHSL for years, and VHSL turns their back and looks the other way. I personally know of several athletes who were recruited from one high school to another.
By ATrain
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I see that LCA's attendance zone is the City of Lynchburg. Does this mean that students who live in Campbell, Appomattox or Bedford counties must move to Lynchburg in order to be eligible to compete?
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By Purple Haize
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ATrain wrote:I see that LCA's attendance zone is the City of Lynchburg. Does this mean that students who live in Campbell, Appomattox or Bedford counties must move to Lynchburg in order to be eligible to compete?
It's sorta complicated but here is what I have gathered
1st time 8 or 9 grade enrollment = No problem
Transfer 10-12 = 1 year (365 day) sit before eligible
UNLESS there is a corresponding move to that school zone
This is consistent across VHSL

So in your scenario, if a kid is a Junior and currently attends Alta Vista and transfers to LCA they have to sit. If the kids parents moves to Lynchburg city, the kid does not have to sit. HOWEVER, there is sort of some confusion on the 1 time transfer rule.
What I wonder what would happen in the reverse: Kid realizes LCA isn't the place for them and lives in the Heritage Zone. Would they be subject to the transfer policy? Or what if they lived in Rustburg?

To ballcoach's point. Yes, VHSL schools recruit, but this is different. There are kids who send their kids to a different Public School but those parents have to pay for that. Sounds like a Private School. HOWEVER, LCA offers need based scholarships that a parent living in the Glass Zone and sending their kid to JF is not eligible for.
By ballcoach15
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Some pay, some do not. All they need in many cases is a bogus address.

I am familiar with one case in Campbell County where a player transferred from one county school to another by just going to his new school and enrolling. Never moved or anything. One school had a championship team, the other went 0-21.
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By Sly Fox
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There is generally a code of silence among coaches and schools about transfers. Most look the other way unless it something outlandish that would destroy balance of power because coaches want a few transfers to come their way down the road without a stink.
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote:Some pay, some do not. All they need in many cases is a bogus address.

I am familiar with one case in Campbell County where a player transferred from one county school to another by just going to his new school and enrolling. Never moved or anything. One school had a championship team, the other went 0-21.
The point I was making was if a person doesn't change addresses Alot of kids live with aunts and uncles as well. It's not necessarily always cut and dry. What do you do with a kid whose dad lives in one zone, mom in another and an aunt, uncle and grandparents in others; and they split living time with them all?

SLY - To a large extent, absolutely. It never really bothered us quite frankly, but our mind set was 'we would love to have you, but if you don't want to be here than we don't want you here'.
The ONLY issue we had was the tuition thing. If a kid wanted to put down a relative in the Brookville Zone because a relative lived there, that is a blade that can cut both ways. However, offering a kid money to come was something that no public school could offer.
Again, I have 0 issues with Private Schools playing in the VHSL.
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