[RubberMallet]

Ray Lewis=Very good point RTF.

the only thing different in this is federal vs state...

[Knucklehead]

Here we go time to treat the "Star" differently!
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football ... 19.article

RICHMOND, Va. -- This much we know: Michael Vick won't be on the field when the Atlanta Falcons open training camp next Thursday. He'll be in a federal courtroom.

What happens after that was anyone's guess Wednesday.

After consulting with the Falcons, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and top league officials agreed to let the legal process determine the facts.
A person with knowledge of the meeting, who requested anonymity so the case would not be influenced, said the NFL would stick to that position for the foreseeable future, despite its new personal-conduct policy.

[El Scorcho]

Nike realizes this actually builds street cred toward a segment of the market.

The term "street cred" is starting to become one that makes my blood boil.

[4everfsu]

If Nike said that about Vick then it is as good as a kiss of death

[SuperJon]

Ray Lewis=Very good point RTF.

the only thing different in this is federal vs state...

Exactly. The Feds don't play around. The state courts cut deals like crazy, but Vick is going up against the Feds. They have a 90% conviction rate. There's no way he gets out of this.

[4everfsu]

It was reported tonight that Nike is not going to release the new MV sneaker that was scheduled. Just the first step to disassociate themselves from MV

[Knucklehead]

It was reported tonight that Nike is not going to release the new MV sneaker that was scheduled. Just the first step to disassociate themselves from MV

great decision by Nike

[RubberMallet]

in other news. micheal vick has signed on with the makers of hushpuppy shoes..

[RagingTireFire]

RTF, sorry about misquoting you and I assure you I didn't Van Goeh myselft

"Van Gogh myself". That's good. I'll call you the next time I have Simon Schama over for crumpets.

[Knucklehead]

WOW! A Culture War!

[Innocent Bystander]

in other news. micheal vick has signed on with the makers of hushpuppy shoes..

That is sick and twisted...



...and funny.

[Cider Jim]

For Michael Vick, these really are the "dog days of summer."

[olldflame]

Too bad he didn't have Joey Chestnut's number. My boy could have come over and consumed all the evidence.

[Knucklehead]

Oh yea did i tell you what the prosecuter's famous line should be: "Ladies and gentlemen of the Jury, it is sad to hear the stories of these poor kanines and how ruthlessly they were Vick-tomized."

[troyywr]

WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO CARE MORE ABOUT ANIMALS THAN EACH OTHER...WE WILL BOMB A COUNTRY'S "TERRORIST" MISTAKENLY KILL 10-20 CIVILIAN..WOMEN..KIDS ETC AND CALL THAT OH COLLATERAL DAMAGE...(NO BIGGIE)..BUT LET SOME DOGS FIGHT AND BET MONEY OR TRAIN THEM TO FIGHT WOAH LOCK EVERYONE UP...DOG FIGHTING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES AND YES I THINK ITS WRONG BUT IS IT OKAY WHEN THE GOOD OLE BOYS WHERE DOING IT THE "SOUTHERN GENTLEMEN"..IS IT OKAY TO USE DOGS TO HUNT AND KILL OTHER ANIMALS..OR IS THE DOG ABOVE ALL ELSE INCLUDING HUMAN LIFE???...OTHER THAN THAT i STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN FIGHT IN HOCKEY AND ITS AN ACCEPTED MUCH ANTISPATED PART OF THE GAME...BUT IF YOU FIGHT IN BASKETBALL OR FOOTBALL YOUR A THUG, YOUR A GANGSETER KICK HIM OUT

[El Scorcho]

WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO CARE MORE ABOUT ANIMALS THAN EACH OTHER...

Probably for the same reason some people care about people typing in all caps when communicating on the Internet. It just ain't right.

[PAmedic]

I don't believe the GANGSETER ANTISPATED that any political significance would be attached to his activities- then again, I'm no SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN.

Go Falcons, I guess TROY?

[bigsmooth]

troy you are not making any sense! first off i am not PETA disciple, but this has zero to do with terrorism, or hunting. many families consider dogs as part of their family, and not just a "dog". miyself being a single guy, my dogs are my family, and what he and the others are chagred with is just sick and criminal. you cannot compare the war in iraq with this, nor using dogs for hunting. you have to be a vick disciple grasping at straws to refute all the allegations. the "southern gentleman" crack?? cmon troy! people use dogs for hunting all over the US and the world. now some of the treatment of these hunting dogs may not be the best, but they are not beaten or electrocuted. i still believe in due process, but your comparisons are not even close to reality.

[troyywr]

Mike Vick is being thrown under the bus..this is nothing but a witch hunt...or better yet a "New Age Lynching" ...Mike Vick maybe guilty but they are acting like he actually killed a person..He didnt even kill a dog...read the indictment..it says he furnished money for the dog fights and he bet on the fights..it just sickens me to see this being trumpted up and Vick being made to look like Satan himself,when he got involved in something bad and illegal but lots of people do t and have done so for centuries..Do you know how many US Presidents engaged in the "sport" of dogfighing??....12...okay lets slander their name and excommunicate them too ....Pitbulls are naturally inclined to fight..Ive owned 4 myself..and yeah you get some that are like big lovey dovey house cats and get along with other animals...and you get some that no matter how well trained and pampered and spoiled it is..it will love humans but hate other animals especially other male pit bulls..try feeding 2-3 pitbulls at one time...one is sure to snap. That makes them easy dogs to use ...a lab wouldnt make a good fighting dog they are naturally docile. I read the indictment and it looks to me Mike should be fined a large amount...told to pick new friends and those friends of his if they did body slam or electocute some dogs should be taking the blame for most of it

[troyywr]

And I wouldnt expect anything less from a UVA "fan" than to throw Vick under the bus...because thats what Tech has being doing to UVA since Vick enrolled as a freshman....

[Knucklehead]

I see we have a VT Coolade Drinker!

Look at it however you want, but what he is alleded to have done IS a FELONY. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! You and I would be! Do I think it is being blown out of Proportion, YES! Do I think it is more serious that Killing a person, NO! Do I think he should be allowed to Play, NO! Do I think he career is over, YES!

[JDUB]

i believe that everyone involved should be punished. if Vick was involved, which i think he was, he should be punished the same as everyone else.
comparing this to hunting dogs? your crazy. how does this compare to hunting dogs? have you ever been hunting with dogs before, because i have. and i can tell you from experience that those dogs are in most cases treated like the owners pets, in some cases they are the owners pets. the dogs are not hurt at all. unless you count training them, in which case there not hurt anymore than any other dog thats a pet is. how does a dog smelling an animal and barking at it to scare it out of the woods compare to bodyslamming dogs and killing them?

[bigsmooth]

troy my friend this has zero do to as UVA/VT thing. if tiki barber had done the same thing, i would have the same opinion. park the rivalry and look at the facts. it has everything to do with the law. what you as a vick/VT kool-aid chugger fail to get that is alleged activity as knuckle said is a felony. so your arguement about US presidents holds zero water. back then and up til maybe a few years ago in most states dog fighting was a misdemeanor. in most states now it is a felony. indeed pit bulls were genetically selected for their fighting prowess, but people involved in dog fighting specifically do things to make them mean. you could do that to any dog. so please troy if you have nothing better to bring to the table than what you have stop. you have shown yourself to be a vick backer and that's fine. you are entitled to that. but the indictment speaks for itself. you did make me laugh that the reason i am against vick is because of the rivalry! that is HILARIOUS!!!! a little about pit bulls for everyone.

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pa ... ts_pitbull

[bigsmooth]

one more note troy...had you read the entire thread, i want vick to have his due process because it is the law. unlike a lot who have already convicted him, that is the fair and right thing to do.

[Knucklehead]

Smoothie, did we just turn a corner? I think you actually may have agreed with 1 thing I said
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