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Can you predict LeBron's New Team?

1. Cavs
2
14%
2. Heat
8
57%
3. Bulls
2
14%
4. Knicks
1
7%
5. Other (write in vote)
1
7%
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By RubberMallet
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jcmanson wrote:
Th3rd wrote:Jameer is better than Wade
pass that down here
i'll take some of that.

jameer is not better than wade
rhondo is not better than wade
garnett is not better than bosh (garnett 4 years ago, yes)
pierce is not better than lebron
allen is not better than lebron

did i miss anything?
By Rocketfan
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RubberMallet wrote:
jcmanson wrote:
Th3rd wrote:Jameer is better than Wade
pass that down here
i'll take some of that.

jameer is not better than wade
rhondo is not better than wade
garnett is not better than bosh (garnett 4 years ago, yes)
pierce is not better than lebron
allen is not better than lebron

did i miss anything?
+1
By SuperJon
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Th3rd wrote:i just dont see the Heat winning the East. I mean as far as I know the Celtics and the Magic still play in the Eastern Conference. Dwight is better than Bosh, Jameer is better than Wade (in a 7 game series) and LeBron has shown that he is capable of a meltdown.

Also KG is better than Bosh, Paul Pierce and Ray Ray are better than LeBron (did everyone else watch that series?) and Rondo is better than Wade.
You said this stuff on Twitter last night and I didn't have the heart to tell you that you it was dumb.

Now you put it on here, and well, that's dumb.
By thepostman
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I love the Magic more then anybody I know...but there is no way Jameer is ever better then wade...with that said...at this moment overall the magic's roster is still better...but the heat may be able to pick up some special players which could change that
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By Th3rd
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thepostman wrote:I love the Magic more then anybody I know...but there is no way Jameer is ever better then wade...with that said...at this moment overall the magic's roster is still better...but the heat may be able to pick up some special players which could change that

ive always liked Jameer (since his days of making the tourney run at St. Joe's till now) which i guess makes me biased haha

I don't see the Heat winning a championship with this team
By LibertyJoe
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From Sunsentinel, word is because of the sign and trade deals that have been finished with the Raptors and Cavaliers. The Miami Heat are close to resigning Udonis Haslem
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By flamesbball84
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well the big three an go screw themselves for all i care
LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh were introduced in Miami in an event that was carried live on ESPN on Friday, and provided a ton of bulletin board material to the rest of the league.
Introduced as the "Three Kings," they weren't short on confidence as LeBron said he felt they could win more than seven NBA titles, and that winning was "going to be easy." Dwyane Wade went on to call the trio "arguably the best trio that ever played the game of basketball." Somewhere Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabaar, and James Worthy just had a nice laugh.
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By jcmanson
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flamesbball84 wrote:well the big three an go screw themselves for all i care
LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh were introduced in Miami in an event that was carried live on ESPN on Friday, and provided a ton of bulletin board material to the rest of the league.
Introduced as the "Three Kings," they weren't short on confidence as LeBron said he felt they could win more than seven NBA titles, and that winning was "going to be easy." Dwyane Wade went on to call the trio "arguably the best trio that ever played the game of basketball." Somewhere Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabaar, and James Worthy just had a nice laugh.
What's so bad about what they said? Wade said they were arguably the best trio to ever play. It remains to be seen if they will be the best, but they can definitely be considered already. And LeBron and the 7 NBA titles was just hyperbole. They asked him how many titles does he think this trio can win if they stay together until they retire. "He said not 1, not 2, not 3, .... not 7... We think we can win multiple championships if we go about this in the right way."
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By jcmanson
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They also signed all 3 for 6 year deals and did sign and trades with both Toronto and Cleveland. Toronto gets 2 first round picks. Cleveland gets 2 1st round and 2 2nd round picks. Bosh an Lebron signed for 110 mil. Wade for 107.
By LUconn
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7 titles is not hyperbole. It's a very specific number that, while a long shot, is attainable.
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By jcmanson
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LUconn wrote:7 titles is not hyperbole. It's a very specific number that, while a long shot, is attainable.
Yeah but he didn't come out and say we're definitely winning 7 or more championships. He didn't put a number on it. He was basically just saying there's no limit as to how many we can win.
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By flamesbball84
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jcmanson wrote:
flamesbball84 wrote:well the big three an go screw themselves for all i care
LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh were introduced in Miami in an event that was carried live on ESPN on Friday, and provided a ton of bulletin board material to the rest of the league.
Introduced as the "Three Kings," they weren't short on confidence as LeBron said he felt they could win more than seven NBA titles, and that winning was "going to be easy." Dwyane Wade went on to call the trio "arguably the best trio that ever played the game of basketball." Somewhere Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabaar, and James Worthy just had a nice laugh.
What's so bad about what they said? Wade said they were arguably the best trio to ever play. It remains to be seen if they will be the best, but they can definitely be considered already. And LeBron and the 7 NBA titles was just hyperbole. They asked him how many titles does he think this trio can win if they stay together until they retire. "He said not 1, not 2, not 3, .... not 7... We think we can win multiple championships if we go about this in the right way."
So saying winning will be easy is okay? Possibly the best team ever, the 72-win Bulls, didn't find it easy. In fact, 41 of their games were decided by 10 or less points in the regular season. They had a bit easier of a time in the playoffs, with 8 of 17 being by 11 points or less, but the Knicks took it to them for the first 4 games of what ended up being a 5-game series, and the Sonics pushed them to six games after the Bulls went up 3-0. In fact, the Sonics worked them in Game 4 by beating them by 21 points. To say winning will be easy is fairly dang insulting to every single great team that has ever existed, and this Heat squad has a lot to prove to even be called a great team when all is said and done.

And to be considered the best, you actually have to have done something together other than make people ticked off at you. And as of right now, they can't compete with Kareem/Magic/Worthy, Cousy/Russell/Heihnson, Duncan/Parker/Ginobili, Malone/Erving/Cheeks, and Kobe/Shaq/Fisher because they haven't done a darn thing together, not one darn thing. They may end up being the best, but you can't call yourself the best without having done a thing to prove it. Sure they won an NBA title together, but is took a whole team of All-Stars to struggle to beat a Spain team that featured, at the time, 1 current NBA player (Pau), at least 3 former NBA players who left because they couldn't handle it (Jorge Garbajosa, Juan Carlos Navarro, Raul Lopez), and three future NBAers (Marc Gasol, Rudy Fernandez, Ricky Rubio), so we're not exactly talking about teams as good as the Lakers, Magic, or Celtics
By olldflame
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Riley made a point last night of saying in no uncertain terms that he won't be coaching the team. He can always rationalize a change, but it would have been just as easy to deflect the question without being so adamant. He didn't. Now, if they get off to a slow start, I'd say all bets are off.
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By flamesbball84
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thepostman wrote:
thepostman wrote:so how long until pat riley comes back to coach?? He kicked one coach out to get another coaching ring, what is gong to stop him from doing it again?
hmmm

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... _trio.html
Doesn't surprise me. PAr for the course for Pat Riley. He leaves when the going gets tough, puts some other poor coach in place to fix it (first Stan Van Gundy, now Erick Spoelestra), he fixes it, then Pat Riley has to swoop in like a vulture to get all the credit for it if and when they win the title.
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By jcmanson
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I didn't hear them say winning would be easy. Yeah they shouldn't have said that, but I'd have to hear the context in which they said, if they actually said it.
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By Cider Jim
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History lesson: some say the words of George Washington & Thomas Paine now apply to LeBron:
LeBron chooses treachery over honor
America spent the week following its 234th birthday locked in the grip of a heartless traitor.

As anyone in Cleveland can attest, the ruthless treachery of LeBron James proved so limitless in its cold calculation that Benedict Arnold now has company in the lexicon of no-good backstabbers. Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert ripped LeBron mercilessly in an open letter to Cavs fans, and Fathead — operated by Gilbert — has reduced LeBron merchandise to $17.41 to honor the year of Benedict Arnold's birth.

...But even more damning perhaps, in the way it eerily presages LeBron’s betrayal, is this letter written by George Washington in the wake of General Arnold’s perfidious deception.

September 25, 1780
My fellow citizens, patriots:
It is with a heavy heart that I share with you the news that Gen. Benedict Arnold has committed treason and fled in the night to the bosom of the very tyrant from which we endeavor to emancipate ourselves.

Benedict Arnold, whose name I hope will one day become synonymous with the lowest form of traitor, in a shocking act of disloyalty, has deserted the country of his birth in its hour of greatest need.

Gen. Arnold’s plan, learned through the confiscation of his private papers, is to join forces with Gen. Henry Clinton and Gen. Charles Cornwallis to form what he referred to as a “super team” of officers.

In his papers Gen. Arnold boasts of winning not just one war but “two, three, four, five, six, seven…” With this evil Empire that welcomes his treachery because it so closely mirrors its own national spirit....

Yours in liberty,
Gen. George Washington
Commander in Chief, Continental Army
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebr ... ade-071010
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By jcmanson
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Heat are also looking at Juwan Howard.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=y ... heat071010
The Miami Heat have targeted free-agent forward Juwan Howard(notes) as they continue to shape their roster around LeBron James(notes), Dwyane Wade(notes) and Chris Bosh(notes), league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Howard could sign a contract for the $1.4 million veteran’s minimum next week.
Udonis Haslem is likely to re-sign as well. That would give Miami Haslem, Howard, and Miller as their first 3 off the bench.

Still need a starting C.
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olldflame wrote:I understand Z and LeBron are pretty tight. He's not the player he was a few years ago, but I think he makes them better
For sure he makes them better. He fills that big hole in the middle and gives them another roll player that everyone says they need. You know until next year until they can sign Dwight Howard :lol:
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By jcmanson
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Roster right now:

1 - Mario Chalmers
2 - Dwyane Wade
3 - LeBron James, Mike Miller
4 - Chris Bosh, Udonis Haslem, Juwan Howard
5 - Zydrunas Ilgauskus
By Rocketfan
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jcmanson wrote:Roster right now:

1 - Mario Chalmers
2 - Dwyane Wade
3 - LeBron James, Mike Miller
4 - Chris Bosh, Udonis Haslem, Juwan Howard
5 - Zydrunas Ilgauskus
This was pretty easy to call now i have to think Iverson or Robinson for back PG. Shaq is still available as well i believe.

Does anyone know what kind of finances are left on the table though after these deals?

If Z is signed it appears they may only be able to go after veteran minimum guys now..

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4184 ... just-begun
Then, of course, they also will likely be attracting a boatload of players, including some members of the team from last year, who are willing to take the vet minimum of $1.1 million (which doesn't count against the cap, by the way) in order to get a ring.

Some of the many names mentioned in that group of players are Shaquille O'Neal, Raja Bell, Tracy McGrady, Dorrell Wright, Quentin Richardson, Carlos Arroyo, Jerry Stackhouse, Juwan Howard, Jason Williams, etc.
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