If you want to talk ASUN smack or ramble ad nauseum about your favorite pro or major college teams, this is the place to let it rip.

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By Bigsouthking
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The governor of Texas just wants Texas and A & M to stay together. Texas could go Big Ten, Pac 10, or SEC or they could stay and hold Big 12 together maybe.
By 4everfsu
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The Boulder Daily Camera reported that Texas Gov. Rick Perry has asked Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor to meet Thursday so they can talk about ways the four state schools could remain in the same conference. A source confirmed to ESPNDallas.com's Jeff Caplan that the four schools will meet Thursday.
By LUconn
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Bigsouthking wrote: The governor of Texas just wants Texas and A & M to stay together. Texas could go Big Ten, Pac 10, or SEC or they could stay and hold Big 12 together maybe.
How can you justify politically strong-arming aTm into whatever conference Texas goes to but not Texas Tech?
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By jcmanson
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TDDance234 wrote:And that officially marks Baylor as the biggest loser in those whole process, IMO. They will have to settle with the MWC, I believe.
No, that would be Kansas
By SuperJon
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4everfsu wrote:The Boulder Daily Camera reported that Texas Gov. Rick Perry has asked Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor to meet Thursday so they can talk about ways the four state schools could remain in the same conference. A source confirmed to ESPNDallas.com's Jeff Caplan that the four schools will meet Thursday.
Why Baylor? Baylor is private. What does the governor have to do with a private school?
By ATrain
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LUconn wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote: The governor of Texas just wants Texas and A & M to stay together. Texas could go Big Ten, Pac 10, or SEC or they could stay and hold Big 12 together maybe.
How can you justify politically strong-arming aTm into whatever conference Texas goes to but not Texas Tech?
Depends on which school the governor graduated from and which has more members in the state legislature at the time.

Plus, it seems to me the two big schools in Sly's state are Texas and A&M, with Texas Tech and Baylor a distant third and fourth with schools like TCU, Houston, SMU, Rice, etc...having loyal alumni bases but little appeal beyond that.
By LUconn
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You can't very well say "I went to A&M so I'm just looking out for their interest, the rest of Texas be damned". What I'm saying is what ever legitimate reason you can come up with for including Texas A&M can be applied to Texas Tech. No matter who is in office.
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By BJWilliams
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and while all this is happening, Notre Dame has been pretty much sitting on their hands (and enormous TV contract). Im listening to the radio and theyre talking about all of this and theyre wondering if ND could have stopped all this by just swallowing their Touchdown Jesus sized ego and going to the Big Ten...
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By 4everfsu
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To BJ's question I would say yes
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By Schfourteenteen
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Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State

Are all out to dry right? Could the Big XII pick up 6 teams or is this dissolving thing a done deal?

Memphis
Houston
SMU
Arkansas
TCU
Southern Miss

If these 4 stay together, then all the teams leaving (Colorado may have an option) have to pay the buyout.
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By SumItUp
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The Big XII requires 9 of the 12 voting to dissolve the conference. If those are the only 4 remaining, one of them would probably vote to dissolve the conference. Arkansas will not leave the SEC to move to a "Big 12" conference that does not include most of the former SWC members (Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Baylor).
By JK37
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Rumor I heard was that DeLoss Dodds had a brief chat with many of the other Big XII AD's, and basically told them, "I did everything I could to keep it together, but I couldn't do it. And now, you're on your own."
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By Schfourteenteen
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SumItUp wrote:The Big XII requires 9 of the 12 voting to dissolve the conference. If those are the only 4 remaining, one of them would probably vote to dissolve the conference. Arkansas will not leave the SEC to move to a "Big 12" conference that does not include most of the former SWC members (Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Baylor).
That depends on the amount of money from the buyout and where it would go. If there's a good chunk of money that could somehow go to the 4 schools why would they vote to dissolve it?

It's be better for them to vote to keep the conference, collect the buyout and then dissolve it a month later if they really wanted out. Or - pick up 4 to 8 growing mid-major programs and move on. There's no good options for Kansas and Baylor if Texas leaves.

The Arkansas issue makes sense. I was just throwing teams out there.

What if the Big XII picks up TCU, Memphis, Arkansas, and Houston before UT makes their decision? Apparently not after what the Commish said
By blwall1416
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flamesfilmguy wrote:A hire up in the Tech Athletic department informed me that FSU,Clemson,GT and Miami have already been contacted and invited to the SEC. GT is going to accept once its formal and public as of right now.
A guy supposedly in the know from UGA said he can PROMISE that GT isn't in the top 15 teams the SEC would consider.
By JK37
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Schfourteenteen wrote:
SumItUp wrote:The Big XII requires 9 of the 12 voting to dissolve the conference. If those are the only 4 remaining, one of them would probably vote to dissolve the conference. Arkansas will not leave the SEC to move to a "Big 12" conference that does not include most of the former SWC members (Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Baylor).
That depends on the amount of money from the buyout and where it would go. If there's a good chunk of money that could somehow go to the 4 schools why would they vote to dissolve it?

It's be better for them to vote to keep the conference, collect the buyout and then dissolve it a month later if they really wanted out. Or - pick up 4 to 8 growing mid-major programs and move on. There's no good options for Kansas and Baylor if Texas leaves.

The Arkansas issue makes sense. I was just throwing teams out there.

What if the Big XII picks up TCU, Memphis, Arkansas, and Houston before UT makes their decision? Apparently not after what the Commish said
If the Big XII only lost one team, I could see Arkansas maybe coming back. When all this bagan last year, that was my prediction. But, the Pac-10 overthrew everything.

I'm not sure the four remaining schools see enough in each other to want to band together and pick up 6 or 8 more schools for a new Big XII. Time will tell...
By LUconn
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Yeah, I don't understand why they don't in turn raid the MWC. You'd have a better conference than what the MWC is right now which as stated earlier is on par or better than some other premier leagues.
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By SumItUp
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Schfourteenteen wrote:That depends on the amount of money from the buyout and where it would go. If there's a good chunk of money that could somehow go to the 4 schools why would they vote to dissolve it?
That's a good point. It appears the exit fees for 8 teams will surpass $80 million.

According to TMZ, the Cowboys are making a move to the Pac 10. Oklahoma State Next to Jump to Pac-10

Oklahoma State would not have made that decision without confirmations from Norman and Austin.

Normally, June is a boring sports month (exception College World Series and US Open), but not this year.
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By JK37
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LUconn wrote:Yeah, I don't understand why they don't in turn raid the MWC. You'd have a better conference than what the MWC is right now which as stated earlier is on par or better than some other premier leagues.
Maybe that's the "process" Don Beebe keeps mentioning.

Who? Maybe TCU, Memphis, Houston, Boise State, Utah (after being left out of the Pac-10 party)...
By ALUmnus
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First of all, we need to stop with all this sillyness calling the MWC as good as the BCS conferences.

Second, for any team to want to join another conference, it's going to be about the payout. Why would Arkansas leave all the SEC money to join the Big12? The ACC also has a very nice TV deal, and earns more than the Pac10 or Big East currently. So unless taking a share of the SEC money is more than the ACC money they're receiving, why would you go?
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By SumItUp
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BLOG POST: High School Drama (Allegory for Expansion)
Man I feel like i am high school all over again. The gossiping the rumors, the “they are doing whats?”. We all know how it is and how comparable the Conference Expansion is like it.

Roles:

Cheerleaders: Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Texas Tech, and because their mom got involved and forced the team to take her Baylor.

The really Hot girl not on the squad: ND

The girl that is friends with the Cheerleaders but ready for her own thing: Nebraska

The oddly attractive chick, just cause she kind of stands out: Colorado

The girl that everyone is friends with, but is just not that attractive: Kansas (in this instance football is looks, and basketball personality)

The girl that cheats on her boyfriend openly: Mizzou

The other girls people know but do not really care for: K-State, ISU

Big ten is the football players, and the Pac – 10 is the cool guys who do not play sports, SEC is the other schools football team that really does not care to intermingle. Big East and ACC fill out the rest.

The goal of all the girls is to find a date/group to go to homecoming with.
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