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By RagingTireFire
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#137531
Mitchell's on now. He just played the "it's for the children" card. Once a politician, always a politician.
By LUconn
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#137532
I think it's funny that this report is being released at 2. And everybody is going to want to get "the scoop" first. And it's a 400 page report, so there's gonna be lots of speed reading going on.
By SuperJon
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#137533
Ten minutes in, he's said this:

My report's better than any that come out after this.

Baseball's steroids policy was a joke.

My report was perfect when I sent it to MLB.

I invited all of the guys who I'm about to embarrass publicly to come speak with me before I went public and they all declined.
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By RagingTireFire
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#137535
He just referred to the incidents in his report as "alleged violations".

And this report will solve everything.
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By Fumblerooskies
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Nice seeing the trail...

...he now is saying that the commish should NOT discipline the players for the past use...and make a FRESH START.
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By RagingTireFire
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#137537
Basically, he's going to taint the player's names without actually punishing them.

Like I said, bargaining chip. This stinks like day-old fish.
By Hold My Own
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#137538
Someone explain to me how my buddy Jose gets 15 game suspension while Mitchell just said he suggests Bud not to suspend these players for previous faults but to use it for the future.
By LUconn
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#137539
by the way, Pujols is not on there.
By Ed Dantes
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#137541
LUconn wrote:by the way, Pujols is not on there.
Yeah, same with Bagwell and Pudge Rodriguez. Phew!
Last edited by Ed Dantes on December 13th, 2007, 3:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By RubberMallet
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#137542
no pujols....yes...

however kent merker? on the list....that was money wwell spent
By LUconn
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#137544
Ed Dantes wrote:
LUconn wrote:by the way, Pujols is not on there.
wait, in the official report or on the list he had?
he's not named in the official report. The one unfortunate part about this list is that everyone will assume that if you aren't on the list, you're clean.
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By RagingTireFire
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#137547
Did anyone else just hear some Mexican on a walkie-talkie over top of Mitchell?
By Ed Dantes
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#137550
RubberMallet wrote:no pujols....yes...

however kent merker? on the list....that was money wwell spent
The worst part is that the guy at the center of this is some Mets clubhouse attendant, who got most of these guys the 'roids -- and the Mets still stunk. WTF?
By Ed Dantes
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Cider Jim wrote:I'm counting at least 10 Orioles. Does any single team have more than that?
Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafael Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose Canseco, Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia,Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, Kerry Wood
I think Manny Alexander & Fernando Tatis had cups of coffee with the O's, which would give them a total of a dozen players on the list.
Well, this is completely wrong now. Bagwell's not in the report, neither is pujols, neither is Brady Anderson... We need a new list.
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By jcmanson
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RagingTireFire wrote:Did anyone else just hear some Mexican on a walkie-talkie over top of Mitchell?
Ha. I did. It sounded like it may have been a radio broadcast.
By Hold My Own
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#137556
Albert P. should be on there
Pudge Should be on there

heck a-rod should be, he started as early as high school...but I'm actually REALLY happy he isnt b/c I dont want a cloud over him as he starts getting close to the record
By ALUmnus
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Every Braves fan's favorite baby-face made the list, David Justice. Of course I think it didn't start for him until he got to the Yankees. But still, he's still working in the industry for network television and radio.

It's amazing to see a majority of this all linked back to New York, but I guess that's mainly because most of the reports information came from the Mets' trainer, and then the Yankees were quickly infected (partially by the fault of Roger Clemens, who brought a snake into the locker room when he came over from Toronto).
By Rocketfan
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#137571
Ed Dantes wrote:
Cider Jim wrote:I'm counting at least 10 Orioles. Does any single team have more than that?
Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafael Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose Canseco, Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia,Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, Kerry Wood
I think Manny Alexander & Fernando Tatis had cups of coffee with the O's, which would give them a total of a dozen players on the list.
Well, this is completely wrong now. Bagwell's not in the report, neither is pujols, neither is Brady Anderson... We need a new list.
If Brady anderson isn't on there, the whole report is a joke.....thats the most obvious one of the freakin century!
By Ed Dantes
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#137574
Mitchell himself said that 5 to 7 percent of players tested positive. 5 to 7 % of players aren't in this list. I agree with Rocketfan.
By absturgill
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#137576
16. people who put on the Oriole suniform are named in the report.

NEW YORK - Former Sen. George Mitchell's report on steroid use in baseball released today mentions at least 16 current and former Orioles including second baseman Brian Roberts and recently traded shortstop Miguel Tejada.

The others named are: current outfielder Jay Gibbons, who recently admitted using human growth hormone and accepted a 15-day suspension, and ex-Orioles Rafael Palmeiro, Larry Bigbie, David Segui, Jack Cust, Jason Grimsley, Jerry Hairston, Tim Laker, Gregg Zaun, Kevin Brown, Howie Clark, Todd Williams, Kent Mercker and Gary Matthews Jr.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/base ... 9759.story
By Ed Dantes
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Rocketfan wrote:
Well, this is completely wrong now. Bagwell's not in the report, neither is pujols, neither is Brady Anderson... We need a new list.
I think Brady was getting a different kind of injection, if you know what I mean.
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By Fumblerooskies
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#137578
Ed Dantes wrote:
Rocketfan wrote:
Well, this is completely wrong now. Bagwell's not in the report, neither is pujols, neither is Brady Anderson... We need a new list.
I think Brady was getting a different kind of injection, if you know what I mean.
...in the same general area, too.
By LUconn
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#137579
So the biggest questions that come from this whole situation:

1. Do we cut Barry some slack since the playing field is obviously level?
2. Why do the Orioles always suck?
By Ed Dantes
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#137580
A-K LIST, to be updated as I can

Chad Allen - Minnesota, Cleveland, Florida, Texas
Rick Ankiel - St. Louis
David Bell - Cleveland, St. Louis, Seattle, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Milwaukee
Mike Bell - Atlanta
Marvin Bernard - San Francisco
Gary Bennett - Philadelphia, New York Mets, Colorado, San Diego, Milwaukee, Washington, St. Louis
Larry Bigbie - Baltimore, Colorado, St. Louis
Barry Bonds - Pittsburgh, San Francisco
Kevin Brown - Texas, Baltimore, Florida, San Diego, Los Angeles, New York Yankees
Paul Byrd - Mets, Altanta, Philly, Kansas City, Anahiem, Cleveland
Jose Canseco - Oakland, Texas, Boston, Toronto, Tampa Bay, New York Yankees, Chicago Sox
Mark Carreon - Mets, Tigers, Giants, Indians
Jason Christiansen - Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Fran, Anaheim
Howie Clark - Baltimore, Toronto
Roger Clemens - Boston, Toronto, New York Yankees, Houston
Jack Cust - Arizona, Colorado, Baltimore, San Diego, Oakland
Brendan Donnelly - Anaheim, Boston
Chris Donnels - Mets, Houston, Boston, los Angeles, Arizona
Bobby Estalella - Philly, San Fran, Yankees, Colorado, Arizona, Toronto
Matt Franco - Cubs, Atlanta, New York Mets
Ryan Franklin - Seattle, Philly, Cincy, St. louis
Eric Gagne - Los Angeles, texas, Boston
Jason Giambi - Oakland, New York Yankees
Jeremy Giambi - Royals, Oakland, Philly, Boston
Jay Gibbons - Baltimore
Troy Glaus - Anaheim, Arizona, Toronto
Jason Grimsley - Philly, Cleveland, Anaheim, Yankees, Royals, Orioles, Arizona
Jose Guillen - Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Arizona, Cincy, Oakland, Washington, Anaheim, Seattle
Jerry Hairston - Baltimore, Cubs, Texas
Matt Herges - Los Angeles, Washington, San Diego, San Fran, Arizona, Florida, Colorado
Phil Hiatt - Royals, Tigers, Dodgers
Glenallen Hill - Toronto, Cleveland, Cubs, Giants, Seattle, Yankees, Anaheim
Darren Holmes - Dodgers, Milwaukee, Rockies, Yankees, Arizona, Cardinals, Orioles, Braves
Todd Hundley - Mets, Dodgers, Cubs
David Justice - Braves, Cleveland, Yankees, Oakland
Chuck Knoblauch - Twins, Yankees, Royals

Atlanta xxxxx
Florida xxx
Philly xxxxxxx
New York Mets xxxxxx
Washington xxx
Cincy xx
Chicago Cubs xxxx
Houston xx
Pittsburgh xxx
Milwaukee xxx
St. Louis xxxxxxx
Arizona xxxxxxx
Colorado xxxxxx
Los Angeles xxxxxxx
San Diego xxxx
San Francisco xxxxxxxx
New York Yankees xxxxxxxxxx
Baltimore xxxxxxxx
Boston xxxxxx
Tampa Bay xx
Toronto xxxxxx
Chicago Sox x
Cleveland xxxxxxx
Detroit xx
Minnesota xx
Kansas City xxxxx
Anaheim xxxxxx
Oakland xxxxxx
Seattle xxxx
Texas xxxxx
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