[bigsmooth]

sly, be objective for once. the big 12 is not that great. for that matter the big 12 has been bad for awhile other than texas and oklahoma. im not a big east fan, but so far they have proven themselves, and a few ACC teams have as well. granted those leagues are down, but the system is what it is. o the top four team in the big 12 who is a traditional power recently?? just texas. save for big 12 loving for someone else.

[anderson]

Sagarin Conference Ratings www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc06.htm
CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

1 PAC-10 (A) = 81.04 80.26 ( 1) 10
2 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 78.93 78.55 ( 2) 12
3 BIG EAST (A) = 78.23 78.38 ( 3) 8
4 BIG TEN (A) = 76.66 77.67 ( 4) 11
5 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 74.35 73.42 ( 6) 12
6 BIG 12 (A) = 73.73 74.06 ( 5) 12
7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 68.29 68.24 ( 7) 9
8 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 68.04 67.91 ( 8) 4
9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 64.41 64.74 ( 10) 12
10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 63.93 65.07 ( 9) 9
11 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 62.13 62.02 ( 11) 12
12 GREAT WEST (AA)= 60.52 59.54 ( 12) 5
13 ATLANTIC 10 (AA)= 57.40 57.68 ( 13) 12
14 GATEWAY (AA)= 56.62 55.14 ( 16) 8
15 SUN BELT (A) = 56.27 56.65 ( 14) 8
16 BIG SKY (AA)= 55.14 55.26 ( 15) 9
17 SOUTHERN (AA)= 50.22 50.92 ( 17) 8
18 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 49.82 49.86 ( 18) 8
19 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 45.41 44.55 ( 19) 5
20 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 43.58 43.29 ( 20) 7
21 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 43.29 42.98 ( 21) 7
22 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 41.99 42.50 ( 22) 9
23 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 39.77 39.56 ( 23) 10
24 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 38.95 37.91 ( 24) 9
25 NORTHEAST (AA)= 35.59 34.96 ( 25) 8
26 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 31.63 32.38 ( 27) 4
27 PIONEER (AA)= 31.06 33.26 ( 26) 8
28 METRO ATLANTIC (AA)= 21.93 21.91 ( 28) 5
29 ***UNRATED*** (**)= -90.00 -90.00 ( 29) 1

[bigsmooth]

who is behind the ACC???

[Sly Fox]

Anytime Jeff Sagarin's numbers are used it brings to ming the old adage about Statistics not lying but ...

[SuperJon]

Wasn't it you that was talking about Sagarin points and the Big South earlier this year?

[Sly Fox]

It wasn't me in football. Maybe in hoops back this spring. They are something to keep ourselves amused during offseasons. But they aren't realistic otherwise.