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By Purple Haize
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NotAJerry wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:Just because he went to Alabama and UVa doesnt necessarily mean he is going to be an instant upgrade on Woodrum. Like has been said, if he ends up here, he is going to have to prove himself in practice against him and show that he is (in my words) head and shoulders better than he is.
The Washington Post ran an article about the situation saying that he went into spring practice 3rd on the depth chart because of his academic issues. He finished spring practice in a 3 way tie with Watford and Lambert. I don't think the ability is an issue, it's the academics. I do wonder if that's carrying over into his ability to quickly learn an offense/read a defense.
I think playing against ACC defenses would be a smidge tougher then FCS defenses. But you do have a point. But it hasn't stopped other QB's from having great careers.
By thepostman
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What other problems has he shown aside from academics? I am asking honestly because I know very little about the guy
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By BJWilliams
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The thing I want to see. if he comes, is how he compares next to Woodrum in practice. Yeah he went to one of the top schools in the country, yeah he went to Virginia, but my attitude has always been, you gotta show it to me on the field. If he comes here, and when they go into practice, he is miles ahead of Josh, then fine...but Im not just gonna expect him to be handed the job just because of where he came from.
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By Purple Haize
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BJWilliams wrote:The thing I want to see. if he comes, is how he compares next to Woodrum in practice. Yeah he went to one of the top schools in the country, yeah he went to Virginia, but my attitude has always been, you gotta show it to me on the field. If he comes here, and when they go into practice, he is miles ahead of Josh, then fine...but Im not just gonna expect him to be handed the job just because of where he came from.
No kidding. But based on past performance it's not a big leap to say he'd be in the mix day 1 and probably the starter Day 10. I like Woodrum. I was in his corner from the beginning when lots of others were questioning making him the starter. But if Sims comes, he's not coming to be a back up. He would be the highest ranked recruit we've ever had. I mean Saban thought he was pretty good. This is a talent you don't pass on, if he fits LU.
By flamehunter
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I actually heard from a friend tonight that he believes Sims is a Christian and actually was pretty outspoken at Virginia. Not sure if that is 100% accurate though. Of course, lack of work ethic in classes doesn't look too good no matter how strong your faith is. I could jump on board if he proves he has learned somethings through this.
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By Purple Haize
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flamehunter wrote:I actually heard from a friend tonight that he believes Sims is a Christian and actually was pretty outspoken at Virginia. Not sure if that is 100% accurate though. Of course, lack of work ethic in classes doesn't look too good no matter how strong your faith is. I could jump on board if he proves he has learned somethings through this.
Really? You hear he's an outspoken Christian but then question that faith by his lack of classroom prowess :dontgetit What's that say about kids who don't get straight A's here at LU? Or who flunk out? I mean LU is no UVA when it comes to academics so if you can't pass classes here you must REALLY be a sinner......
By flamehunter
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I'm not questioning his faith by his lack of academic prowess. Re-read my post slowly and you'll see that I'm questioning his work ethic. Apparently Mike London ripped him pretty bad on this whole deal, failure to to go classes and the like. The only question about his faith I have is because "I heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend...". Just not sure how true it is.
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By Purple Haize
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flamehunter wrote:I actually heard from a friend tonight that he believes Sims is a Christian and actually was pretty outspoken at Virginia. Not sure if that is 100% accurate though. Of course, lack of work ethic in classes doesn't look too good no matter how strong your faith is. I could jump on board if he proves he has learned somethings through this.
By flamehunter
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Purple Haize wrote:
flamehunter wrote:I actually heard from a friend tonight that he believes Sims is a Christian and actually was pretty outspoken at Virginia. Not sure if that is 100% accurate though. Of course, lack of work ethic in classes doesn't look too good no matter how strong your faith is. I could jump on board if he proves he has learned somethings through this.
How is that questioning his faith? He could be the strongest Christian to walk through the gate of any university but if his work ethic in class is poor, it will not look good to anyone. Doesn't mean he's not a strong Christian, just has a weakness in that area.
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By Purple Haize
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I guess I'm looking to see where academic work ethic in any way equates to being a Christian. I know of oodles of kids that blew off courses at college. Didn't make them look spiritually bad to me. It just made me think they were lazy students. Also know kids who worked really hard and either failed or barely squeezed by. Again, never equated that to how it reflected on their Christianity
By flamehunter
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Purple Haize wrote:I guess I'm looking to see where academic work ethic in any way equates to being a Christian. IT DOESN'TI know of oodles of kids that blew off courses at college. Didn't make them look spiritually bad to me. It just made me think they were lazy students. Also know kids who worked really hard and either failed or barely squeezed by. Again, never equated that to how it reflected on their Christianity
flamehunter wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
flamehunter wrote:I actually heard from a friend tonight that he believes Sims is a Christian and actually was pretty outspoken at Virginia. Not sure if that is 100% accurate though. Of course, lack of work ethic in classes doesn't look too good no matter how strong your faith is. I could jump on board if he proves he has learned somethings through this.
How is that questioning his faith? He could be the strongest Christian to walk through the gate of any university but if his work ethic in class is poor, it will not look good to anyone. Doesn't mean he's not a strong Christian, just has a weakness in that area.
See that? I said it doesn't make him a weak Christian.

I don't know why we're even arguing about this. We don't really have any idea where he stands spiritually, other than hearsay which I am sorry now I even brought up.
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By Purple Haize
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Again you put work ethic in the classroom and Christianity in the same sentence. What I'm saying is one has nothing to do with the other
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By jinxy
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Its certainly not behavior youd like the leader of your team to exhibit. I agree flamehunter, haize will argue all night. Just let him ha. Ive heard clifton richardson is strongly considering lu as well
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By Purple Haize
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jinxy wrote:Its certainly not behavior youd like the leader of your team to exhibit. I agree flamehunter, haize will argue all night. Just let him ha. Ive heard clifton richardson is strongly considering lu as well
I agree with your first statement. Not so much your second. As proven by my first statement :D
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By BJWilliams
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I didn't say he is superhuman...Im just saying that if he comes here, he should be able to show, once they both hit the practice field, that he is a significant upgrade over Josh. He shouldn't have a problem coming in and competing for the starting job. Tommy Beecher got the job when he came in because we didn't have a quarterback to speak of after Brock Smith graduated. In this case, we have a QB who, though he made mistakes at times, led us to a share of the Big South Championship and was one of the top 20 in the nation for the Jerry Rice Award. He may not be a world beater, but he isn't exactly a schlub who hadn't played any significant snaps (not saying Sims did, just that its not like Josh is a total noob that he is going up against). If he comes here and he is the clear #1, then it'll show on the practice field
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By BJWilliams
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Richardson would be a nice pickup as well, although like Sims, Id like to see him on the field. Now it wouldnt be AS big a stretch to see him win the lead tailback position, but again, if he comes here, that will manifest itself quickly when they hit the field.
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By jinxy
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Agreed, I don't mind taking a gamble on Richardson. He's a monster and we potentially have a need there though we have some in house candidates. I just hate the idea of ruining a potential localy blossoming 4 year starter. Sims looked OK this year but he really didn't do anything to wow me. I just don't think you want the leader and face of your program to exhibit that behavior. Sims is not overly athletic either. I watched 5 or 6 UVA games this year and I think his best attribute is his deep ball.

In all seriousness, I'm hearing Richardson is a very strong possibility. This is from UVA folks.
By flamehunter
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Purple Haize wrote:Again you put work ethic in the classroom and Christianity in the same sentence. What I'm saying is one has nothing to do with the other
I agree with you. That's why you are frustrating like my oldest. Argue just to argue. Unfortunately, the non-Christian public will often associate a Christian's character flaws with being a hypocrite. That's why I threw the "doesn't look good" bit in there. Now back to your regularly scheduled stuff, whatever that may be. It's way past my bedtime.
By forbidden
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Sims should be able to come in and compete for the job. There is no substitute for competition. If woodrum is better he stays if sims is better he plays, gets no easier than that. Going into camp woodrum has nobody really per say to push him to make him any better, every player on the field needs that, at every position.

If its only academics that's the issue, give the kid a chance, it's quite evident LU has has players on team that have been involved in a lot worse situations. At the end of thebdaybifbthis kis is showing any interest in LU to begin with the TG and staff would not be doing their due diligence if they didn't at least take a look at the kid.
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By Kolzilla41
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BJWilliams wrote:Just because he went to Alabama and UVa doesnt necessarily mean he is going to be an instant upgrade on Woodrum. Like has been said, if he ends up here, he is going to have to prove himself in practice against him and show that he is (in my words) head and shoulders better than he is.
Because clearly UVA is going a great job at evaluationg QB's :| . Look guys, he has a national championship. He would probably be one of the fastest, most athletic guys in the FCS. Nothing says FBS ready like an Alabama QB with a ring :)
By olldflame
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Besides the possibility of his earning the starting job, another plus to bringing in Sims is our current total lack of experienced depth at the position. Woodrum is the only QB we have who has ever taken a college snap. Having Sims would change that.
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By Purple Haize
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olldflame wrote:Besides the possibility of his earning the starting job, another plus to bringing in Sims is our current total lack of experienced depth at the position. Woodrum is the only QB we have who has ever taken a college snap. Having Sims would change that.
Like I said earlier, Woodrum would be the best back up QB in FCS! :P
By olldflame
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Purple Haize wrote:
olldflame wrote:Besides the possibility of his earning the starting job, another plus to bringing in Sims is our current total lack of experienced depth at the position. Woodrum is the only QB we have who has ever taken a college snap. Having Sims would change that.
Like I said earlier, Woodrum would be the best back up QB in FCS! :P
Quite possible.
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