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By JK37
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cjsweat wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
And released John Beck. Smart move.
By bradyfan
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JK37 wrote:
cjsweat wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
And released John Beck. Smart move.
Releasing John Beck is fine, drafting Kirk Cousins is stupid.
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By jbock13
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cjsweat wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
Wrong. Creates competition, and a backup plan just in case.
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By BJWilliams
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I find it funny that the first pick and the last pick in the draft are quarterbacks
By 4everfsu
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Did Casey Keenum of U of Houston get drafted by anyone? Any other surprised players not drafted?
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By prototype
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4everfsu wrote:Did Casey Keenum of U of Houston get drafted by anyone? Any other surprised players not drafted?
I still think Moore should have been drafted. I hope he gets a chance somewhere... I would take him as a backup in Tampa.
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By BJWilliams
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#389378
Moore signed with Detroit as a UDFA
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By jbock13
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4everfsu wrote:Did Casey Keenum of U of Houston get drafted by anyone? Any other surprised players not drafted?
Keenum signed as a UDFA by the Texans.
By bradyfan
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jbock13 wrote:
cjsweat wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
Wrong. Creates competition, and a backup plan just in case.
Wrong. You don't want competition for your QB. What kind of competition did Carolina give Newton? Or Cincy give Dalton? 0. You want your QB to have as many reps as possible, especially when they're entering a completely new type of offense. Every expert opinion I've seen on this is, has said just what I'm saying. Your QB is your leader and you need consistency at that position. It's exactly why the Jets will be terrible this year.
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By jbock13
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cjsweat wrote:
jbock13 wrote:
cjsweat wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
Wrong. Creates competition, and a backup plan just in case.
Wrong. You don't want competition for your QB. What kind of competition did Carolina give Newton? Or Cincy give Dalton? 0. You want your QB to have as many reps as possible, especially when they're entering a completely new type of offense. Every expert opinion I've seen on this is, has said just what I'm saying. Your QB is your leader and you need consistency at that position. It's exactly why the Jets will be terrible this year.
Lol. If sweaty says it, it must be true.
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By NotAJerry
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cjsweat wrote:
JK37 wrote:
cjsweat wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
And released John Beck. Smart move.
Releasing John Beck is fine, drafting Kirk Cousins is stupid.
Drafting a kid with a 2nd or 3rd round grade on most boards is dumb in the 4th round when you've got 2 4th round picks?

Okay.

In reality they've grabbed a 3rd QB that's an upgrade over Beck, they've got someone that everyone thinks will be at least a good backup, and if he gets a few games in and looks good they can try to pull a Philly and flip him like AJ Feeley or Kevin Kolb for a higher pick in a couple of seasons. Now that there's a rookie cap, taking 2 QBs is just another move.
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By NotAJerry
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4everfsu wrote:Did Casey Keenum of U of Houston get drafted by anyone? Any other surprised players not drafted?
Keenum is a barely 6ft tall version of Kevin Kolb, right down to the offensive system.
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By NotAJerry
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Sly Fox wrote:That system seemed to not scare off suitors for RGIII.
Who is nearly 3 inches taller, has a significantly better arm, made the adjustments to his throwing motion that scouts wanted to see, and is one of the smartest people you'll come across. If Keenum was 6'2"+, had the arm, had the mobility, and didn't take 6 years to get through his NCAA eligibility, he'd have been rated higher.
By bradyfan
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jbock13 wrote:
cjsweat wrote:
jbock13 wrote:Redskins drafted Kirk Cousins, QB from Michigan State. What a dumb move.
Wrong. Creates competition, and a backup plan just in case.
Wrong. You don't want competition for your QB. What kind of competition did Carolina give Newton? Or Cincy give Dalton? 0. You want your QB to have as many reps as possible, especially when they're entering a completely new type of offense. Every expert opinion I've seen on this is, has said just what I'm saying. Your QB is your leader and you need consistency at that position. It's exactly why the Jets will be terrible this year.
Lol. If sweaty says it, it must be true.[/quote]

Yeah, and all the ESPN analyst who study this for a living and agree with what I'm saying must have no idea what they're talking about :roll:
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By NotAJerry
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cjsweat wrote:Yeah, and all the ESPN analyst who study this for a living and agree with what I'm saying must have no idea what they're talking about :roll:
The ESPN analysts are terrible. There's a reason why they are working on TV instead of for a football team. Mel Kiper has been openly mocked by NFL GMs on the air because he's so clueless.

Maybe some of the ESPN crew can take a step up and go write for Bleacher Report.

Try watching the NFL Network feed for draft coverage. You'll be surprised by the amount of actual football knowledge and legitimate discussion/debate about picks.

The Redskins upgraded the starting and 3rd QB spots. Cousins will likely develop into a good backup at least. They didn't sacrifice anything as they came out of the draft with 3 OL, 2 DB, 1 RB, and 1 OLB/ILB thus hitting all the positions of need along with the 2 QB. That followed on the heals of upgrading WR substantially and solidifying the OL, DL, LB and DB spots in FA. They even potentially upgrade kicker in FA.

Beck has already been released and taken his 16 sacks suffered in 3.5 games with him. Beck leaving upgraded the OL and the QB spots.

All this nonsense over a 4th round pick. A player that, as 4th round picks go, teams hope can contribute at some point in year 2 or 3. If they had taken a QB in the 2nd, then there would be a valid argument against it. Instead, they spent the 102nd overall pick on a guy that most boards had listed in the 50s.

The fact that there's debate about this from the TV clowns shows that they're more interested in creating drama than doing analysis.
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By jbock13
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Sweat, are you talking about Mel Hyper Jr. And Todd McShay who famously said that JaMarcus Russell reminded them of John Elway? These 'experts' talked about how far he could throw a ball, which is clearly irrelevant when you need to throw a screen pass.

All I'm asking you to do is to have an original thought, not just parrot what you're told to think.
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By BJWilliams
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I like the Rams draft...Yeah Im disappointed that we didnt get Floyd or Blackmon but we got a good DT in Brockers, two WR who give some much needed help to the offense and even got a RB in Pead who could give Jackson a blow when needed and even step up and take his place once he hangs his spikes up
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By jinxy
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Naj is spot on here. I love the move and if rg3 is bothered by a 4 th rd qb then hes not the guy you want anyway. From all indications ive seen rg3 has plenty of confidence in his abilities. Cousins is nothing more than an insurance policy that could be cashed out in 2 years. Kiper and mcshay are pathetic. The only people more pathetic than they are are the people that believe what these two clowns say.
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By jinxy
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Also all of the gm/coaches/draft experts on espn are all guys that have been canned at least once if not multiple times and they cant get any jobs in th league so they go to the one place that will hire them. Just go down the list its quite pathetic
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By jbock13
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Bingo. Jinxy and NAJ are correct.
Last edited by jbock13 on April 29th, 2012, 12:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By NotAJerry
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BJWilliams wrote:I like the Rams draft...Yeah Im disappointed that we didnt get Floyd or Blackmon but we got a good DT in Brockers, two WR who give some much needed help to the offense and even got a RB in Pead who could give Jackson a blow when needed and even step up and take his place once he hangs his spikes up
The only spot where I think they missed was not getting an OT earlier in case the current OTs can't get/stay healthy. They need to do something there to keep Bradford from becoming David Carr. I thought Quick and Pead were both reaches, but not too much, and the 2 DB picks could be fantastic (especially Trumaine Johnson). They had a solid B+ draft that turns into an A if the gamble on Janoris Jenkins works out.
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By Purple Haize
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At least the Colts got 2 TE's. Smh
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By BJWilliams
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NotAJerry wrote:
BJWilliams wrote:I like the Rams draft...Yeah Im disappointed that we didnt get Floyd or Blackmon but we got a good DT in Brockers, two WR who give some much needed help to the offense and even got a RB in Pead who could give Jackson a blow when needed and even step up and take his place once he hangs his spikes up
The only spot where I think they missed was not getting an OT earlier in case the current OTs can't get/stay healthy. They need to do something there to keep Bradford from becoming David Carr. I thought Quick and Pead were both reaches, but not too much, and the 2 DB picks could be fantastic (especially Trumaine Johnson). They had a solid B+ draft that turns into an A if the gamble on Janoris Jenkins works out.

Agreed. if they got Floyd or Blackmon its probably an A- draft minus the not getting one of the higher rated OTs in the draft. Zeuerlein could be a good pickup as well with Josh Brown in the last year of his deal. Im interested to see how the LB from Hawaii does.
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