[prototype]

Their job is put the #1 and #2 teams against each other based on W's, L's and strength of schedule. They did their job.

Actually this is just plain dead wrong. Okie State had more wins over quality opponents and a better schedule, and it's really not even that close.

Bama beat a total of 3 teams with a winning record....3.

Oklahoma State is not better than Bama - you are crazy!!! I'm not a fan of either, but Oklahoma St couldn't stop the spirit rock from scoring... They beat 4 teams with a winning record (Hey - you didn't qualify that statement). Oklahoma State had one good win - Oklahoma. Bama beat Penn State, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida (they're Florida and they only lost to ranked teams, other than FSU (and they're FSU)), and a pretty good MSU team. You can't look at records when you talk the SEC - they beat up on each other - the record takes a hit. The only hit Oklahoma State feels all year is when the SEC wins another title. Bama won their games 426-97, Oklahoma State - 561-273. Bama last week's Strength of schedule - 2 in the country, Oklahoma State - 17.

Gonna be a good game...

[prototype]

Their job is put the #1 and #2 teams against each other based on W's, L's and strength of schedule. They did their job.

Actually this is just plain dead wrong. Okie State had more wins over quality opponents and a better schedule, and it's really not even that close.

Bama beat a total of 3 teams with a winning record....3.

And who were the more wins over quality opponents again? Oklahoma, Tulsa, TTU...

[jbock13]

Alabama lost to LSU.

Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State.

Alabama is clearly the better team.

[pbow]

Their job is put the #1 and #2 teams against each other based on W's, L's and strength of schedule. They did their job.

Actually this is just plain dead wrong. Okie State had more wins over quality opponents and a better schedule, and it's really not even that close.

Bama beat a total of 3 teams with a winning record....3.

Oklahoma State is not better than Bama - you are crazy!!! I'm not a fan of either, but Oklahoma St couldn't stop the spirit rock from scoring... They beat 4 teams with a winning record (Hey - you didn't qualify that statement). Oklahoma State had one good win - Oklahoma. Bama beat Penn State, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida (they're Florida and they only lost to ranked teams, other than FSU (and they're FSU)), and a pretty good MSU team. You can't look at records when you talk the SEC - they beat up on each other - the record takes a hit. The only hit Oklahoma State feels all year is when the SEC wins another title. Bama won their games 426-97, Oklahoma State - 561-273. Bama last week's Strength of schedule - 2 in the country, Oklahoma State - 17.

Gonna be a good game...

This is completely laughable. You're acting like Florida, MSU, and Auburn are good wins. Then how are wins against K state, Baylor, A&M (they're A&M and they only lost to good teams), and Texas not considered good wins? K state and Baylor are both excellent wins...that leaves OK ST with 3 really good wins and Bama with 3 wins over teams with a winning record.

On another note...where in the world did those SOS numbers come from?

[pbow]

I saw someone else post this and I decided to steal it. It really shows how corrupt and stupid the human element to the BCS is. This from voters in the Harris Poll.


Scott Johnson ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Oregon and #4 Boise State. ಠ_ಠ

Derrick Mayes ranks Oklahoma State #6, behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

Craig Morton ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Stanford and #4 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

Jeff Van Note ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Wisconsin and #4 Oregon. Yep, Wisconsin ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

Bob Wagner ranks Oklahoma State #6 behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

George Wine ranks Oklahoma State #6 behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Houston. Yes, Houston. ಠ_ಠ

Rick Wright ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Oregon and #4 Stanford. ಠ_ಠ

[prototype]

I saw someone else post this and I decided to steal it. It really shows how corrupt and stupid the human element to the BCS is. This from voters in the Harris Poll.


Scott Johnson ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Oregon and #4 Boise State. ಠ_ಠ

Derrick Mayes ranks Oklahoma State #6, behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

Craig Morton ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Stanford and #4 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

Jeff Van Note ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Wisconsin and #4 Oregon. Yep, Wisconsin ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

Bob Wagner ranks Oklahoma State #6 behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

George Wine ranks Oklahoma State #6 behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Houston. Yes, Houston. ಠ_ಠ

Rick Wright ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Oregon and #4 Stanford. ಠ_ಠ

Yeah...That's about right. I would say these guys pretty much have a pulse on reality.

[bradyfan]

Let me make sure that you're arguing that Oklahoma St. should have received a championship bid according to the BCS format. If that's what you're arguing, then you're wrong. If you're arguing that Oklahoma St got robbed because of the BCS format, that's another argument for another day.

The BCS format is bases ranked wins on if the team was ranked when you played them. Bama has 5 wins against ranked opponents, Oklahoma St. has 4. The next factor considered is your strength of schedule. Alabama's sos was ranked 2, Oklahoma St. was ranked 9th. (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo ... le-by-team). Lastly, the BCS looks at if your undefeated or if you have a loss. Since both teams have one loss, they look at the quality of that loss. Alabama lost to LSU. LSU went undefeated and is ranked 1st. Oklahoma St. lost to Iowa St. who went 6-6. In all three categories that the BCS determines their championship conteder, Alabama is ahead of Oklahoma St. They undoubtedly become the better team.

Should the BCS have a playoff system? I don't know and frankly I don't care. I haven't watched a championship game that wasn't a great one. However, that argument isn't meant for which of these teams should be in the championship.

Maybe you can use what happened this year to further a playoff argument, but that shouldn't be intended for who should play in the championship. Therefore, you have to base each team's argument on how they did according to the BCS system. Alabama out performed Oklahoma St. in all three main categories, that's why they'll be playing LSU again.

Even if their is a playoff, people will still complain about the system. Every year people complain about the college basketball committee.

[From the class of 09]

Should the BCS have a playoff system? I don't know and frankly I don't care.

If you don't know the answer to this question I don't think we can trust your judgement on anything else. Sorry man.

[prototype]

On another note...where in the world did those SOS numbers come from?

Same as cjsweat just referenced. Said as of last week - 17. Before they played OU...

[pbow]

On another note...where in the world did those SOS numbers come from?

Same as cjsweat just referenced. Said as of last week - 17. Before they played OU...

So that game shouldn't count? haha

[pbow]

I saw someone else post this and I decided to steal it. It really shows how corrupt and stupid the human element to the BCS is. This from voters in the Harris Poll.


Scott Johnson ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Oregon and #4 Boise State. ಠ_ಠ

Derrick Mayes ranks Oklahoma State #6, behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

Craig Morton ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Stanford and #4 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

Jeff Van Note ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Wisconsin and #4 Oregon. Yep, Wisconsin ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ

Bob Wagner ranks Oklahoma State #6 behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Oregon. ಠ_ಠ

George Wine ranks Oklahoma State #6 behind #3 Stanford, #4 Boise State, and #5 Houston. Yes, Houston. ಠ_ಠ

Rick Wright ranks Oklahoma State #5, behind #3 Oregon and #4 Stanford. ಠ_ಠ

Yeah...That's about right. I would say these guys pretty much have a pulse on reality.

Now that I know the type of person that I'm dealing with I will post no more facts about how big of a sham this year's national championship is.

[bradyfan]

On another note...where in the world did those SOS numbers come from?

Same as cjsweat just referenced. Said as of last week - 17. Before they played OU...

So that game shouldn't count? haha

After that game, it went to 9th. So, apparently it counted.

[bradyfan]

Should the BCS have a playoff system? I don't know and frankly I don't care.

If you don't know the answer to this question I don't think we can trust your judgement on anything else. Sorry man.

Why? Because I think for the majority, the BCS has put the two best teams in the championship?

[R i]

You guys are missing the point, Football teams need week to prepare, Basketball teams are ready after a night off. How can they squeeze in a few playoff games between now and JANUARY NINTH!

[BJWilliams]

Let me make sure that you're arguing that Oklahoma St. should have received a championship bid according to the BCS format. If that's what you're arguing, then you're wrong. If you're arguing that Oklahoma St got robbed because of the BCS format, that's another argument for another day.

The BCS format is bases ranked wins on if the team was ranked when you played them. Bama has 5 wins against ranked opponents, Oklahoma St. has 4. The next factor considered is your strength of schedule. Alabama's sos was ranked 2, Oklahoma St. was ranked 9th. (http://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo ... le-by-team). Lastly, the BCS looks at if your undefeated or if you have a loss. Since both teams have one loss, they look at the quality of that loss. Alabama lost to LSU. LSU went undefeated and is ranked 1st. Oklahoma St. lost to Iowa St. who went 6-6. In all three categories that the BCS determines their championship conteder, Alabama is ahead of Oklahoma St. They undoubtedly become the better team.

Should the BCS have a playoff system? I don't know and frankly I don't care. I haven't watched a championship game that wasn't a great one. However, that argument isn't meant for which of these teams should be in the championship.

Maybe you can use what happened this year to further a playoff argument, but that shouldn't be intended for who should play in the championship. Therefore, you have to base each team's argument on how they did according to the BCS system. Alabama out performed Oklahoma St. in all three main categories, that's why they'll be playing LSU again.

Even if their is a playoff, people will still complain about the system. Every year people complain about the college basketball committee.

Actually I was not arguing either of those. my point was that comparing the Wisconsin-Michigan State rematch with LSU-Alabama is apples to oranges because they are two completely different dynamics (with LSU-Alabama being in the same division and Wisconsin-Michigan State being in opposing divisions). Finishing 1-2 in the BCS was the only way theyd play each other again. All Wisconsin and Michigan State had to do was win their respective divisions and you have your rematch. Now what would have made a REAL big stink would have been if Alabama and LSU were in opposite divisions, played in the regular season, won their divisions, met in the SEC Championship game and THEN played for the national championship.

[From the class of 09]

Should the BCS have a playoff system? I don't know and frankly I don't care.

If you don't know the answer to this question I don't think we can trust your judgement on anything else. Sorry man.

Why? Because I think for the majority, the BCS has put the two best teams in the championship?

So screw the minority? Playoffs work better for every other sport and work better for football at every other level. Why is FBS football different?

Like I said, if you can't see that we really don't have anything more to talk about.

[From the class of 09]

You guys are missing the point, Football teams need week to prepare, Basketball teams are ready after a night off. How can they squeeze in a few playoff games between now and JANUARY NINTH!

or this +1

[Sly Fox]

It was great to see that Roy Kreamer managed to rank 5 SEC teams in his Top 11 on his Harris ballot. At least he's not even trying to cover for what a farce he created.

And for those that are harping on that OSU loss at Iowa State, aren't any of you familiar with the circumstances that weekend? While not an excuse for a horrendous day by the Cowboys it certainly gives a context.

Every Game Counts ...

This whole BCS mess is a joke. I hope Okie State wins in a blowout and splits the national championship with the SEC winner. The more pressure to ditch this joke of a system the better. Of course, as I mentioned earlier today I hope they don't blow it all up until we are safely in an FBS league. Because once a playoff system is in place, getting into the FBS ranks will likely be next to impossible.

[pbow]

It was great to see that Roy Kreamer managed to rank 5 SEC teams in his Top 11 on his Harris ballot. At least he's not even trying to cover for what a farce he created.

And for those that are harping on that OSU loss at Iowa State, aren't any of you familiar with the circumstances that weekend? While not an excuse for a horrendous day by the Cowboys it certainly gives a context.

Every Game Counts ...

This whole BCS mess is a joke. I hope Okie State wins in a blowout and splits the national championship with the SEC winner. The more pressure to ditch this joke of a system the better. Of course, as I mentioned earlier today I hope they don't blow it all up until we are safely in an FBS league. Because once a playoff system is in place, getting into the FBS ranks will likely be next to impossible.

Well said

[thepostman]

This thread is the perfect example of why I hate the BCS

[bballfan84]

Bottom line the two best teams are playing for the Championship...yes we want a playoff, yes the BCS is screwed up. The only two elite teams this year are playing in the National Championship, I am more upset that Vtech (the most overrated program currently in the FBS) got a spot in a BCS game. They beat Duke by 3 pts, that is ridiculous. All in all we should just let at least 4 SEC schools get an automatic qualifier to BCS games year in and year out.

[From the class of 09]

Bottom line the two best teams are playing for the Championship...yes we want a playoff, yes the BCS is screwed up. The only two elite teams this year are playing in the National Championship, I am more upset that Vtech (the most overrated program currently in the FBS) got a spot in a BCS game. They beat Duke by 3 pts, that is ridiculous. All in all we should just let at least 4 SEC schools get an automatic qualifier to BCS games year in and year out.

which would all be settled by a playoff

[RubberMallet]

And for those that are harping on that OSU loss at Iowa State, aren't any of you familiar with the circumstances that weekend? While not an excuse for a horrendous day by the Cowboys it certainly gives a context.

sorry, their parents didn't die in a plane crash. and its iowa state. people play football with horrible circumstances going on in their lives all the time.

[Sly Fox]

Which is why I stated that it wasn't an excuse.

[thepostman]

Which is why I stated that it wasn't an excuse.

then why even bring it up?? have you been reading too many cjsweat posts?? haha