[Rocketfan]

I think they're looking for a reason to get rid of Arenas and that would be a great one.

Who wants a guy who is a step slow with a max contract though....this isn't the NFL where you can cut him and not pay the man his money....

[TDDance234]

I think they're looking for a reason to get rid of Arenas and that would be a great one.

Who wants a guy who is a step slow with a max contract though....this isn't the NFL where you can cut him and not pay the man his money....

Somebody would take a flyer on him. They might get peanuts in return but to open up the slot for Wall, they'd take whatever they could get, I'd imagine.

[SumItUp]

Is it Chicago?

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/n ... OHeadlines

[jmdickens]

nope....its home

[jcmanson]

Wade, Lebron, & Bosh in Miami?

http://www.790theticket.com/lebatard.aspx

Click on the Stephen A Smith interview about halfway down on the left hand side of page.

[TDDance234]

Wade, Lebron, & Bosh in Miami?

http://www.790theticket.com/lebatard.aspx

Click on the Stephen A Smith interview about halfway down on the left hand side of page.

Stephen A. Smith is about as credible as Jose Conseco. James isn't going to Miami.

[Rocketfan]

Wade, Lebron, & Bosh in Miami?

http://www.790theticket.com/lebatard.aspx

Click on the Stephen A Smith interview about halfway down on the left hand side of page.

Stephen A. Smith is about as credible as Jose Conseco. James isn't going to Miami.

Thats a pretty ignorant statment since most ( if not all ) of what Conseco said was true....i mean how many people has he called out and how many lawsuits filed against him for slander...

[flamesbball84]

dan lebatard reporting bosh will be traded to miami in a sign and trade deal that nets the raptors michael beasley, mario chalmers, and joel anthony.

[olldflame]

And would they then have enough cap room to sign LBJ? I think they do. Everything I have heard so far has Bosh and James going to the same place. A lineup with James, Wade and Bosh would be tough to beat, and IMHO both LeBron and Dwayne are unselfish enough for it to work.

[jcmanson]

And would they then have enough cap room to sign LBJ?

Yes

The only players they have under contract are those 3 (Beasley, Mario, and Anthony).

[From the class of 09]

And would they then have enough cap room to sign LBJ?

Yes

The only players they have under contract are those 3 (Beasley, Mario, and Anthony).

So if they sign these three what does that leave them to pay the other 9 or so guys on the team?

[flamesbball84]

No the Heat will not have the cap room to sign three max guys, that is a myth the media keeps perpetuating
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page ... om-summary

Miami Heat
Maximum cap room: 1.67 MCs (with Wade re-signed); 2.64 MCs (if Wade leaves)

What needs to happen to get to this amount?: This may be counterintuitive, but the Heat gain more cap room if Wade becomes a free agent than if he invokes the option in his contract to stay with the team through 2010-11. Wade needs to become a free agent. The Heat already have declined the team option on Kenny Hasbrouck. They also released James Jones, whose $4.65 million salary was guaranteed for just $1.86 million -- clearing an additional $2.79 million from the team's books.

What can they do to get more? There's not much left to trim from their roster. To keep Wade and go after both James and Bosh, they'd need to convince at least one of the free agents to take less. Even moving Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers for nothing wouldn't create enough cap room to sign all three star free agents at the full maximum.

[jcmanson]

The talk is that Miami would get Bosh at the max and Lebron and Wade slightly less than max. That would leave them with about 6 or 7 million to fill out their roster.

[flamesbball84]

The talk is that Miami would get Bosh at the max and Lebron and Wade slightly less than max. That would leave them with about 6 or 7 million to fill out their roster.

I highly doubt Lebron and Wade would settle for around 80% at best of their fair market value.

Lebron could get a max deal and go to Chicago to compete for a championship or go to NJ and instantly make them a playoff team with young talent and one major piece away from championship contender status - something they could get with their massive cap space now. They could bring in someone or several someones like Rudy Gay, Ray Allen, Ronnie Brewer, Mike Miller, Al Harrington, Matt Barnes, Richard Jefferson, Jermaine O'Neal, Shaq, Brendan Haywood, Brad Miller. Lebron along with one or two of those players, Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, Courtney Lee, Terrence Williams, Derrick Favors, and Kris Humphries is a pretty good team if you ask me.

Wade could sign a max deal in Miami to play with Bosh and compete for the title and they would also have the cash to get one of the FAs that aren't premier status (see list above) could make for a really good team as well. They'll have more difficulty filling the roster because of all the cash they have tied up in Wade, Bosh, and Beasley, but it's doable.

It would take one of the greatest coups and financial management in the history of sport for Miami to get Wade, Bosh, and Lebron.

[jcmanson]

I think Wade would settle for less than max if he got both Lebron and Bosh in MIA. I'm not sure if Lebron would.

And if Lebron's not going there, then Wade will want max.

[flamesbball84]

I think Wade would settle for less than max if he got both Lebron and Bosh in MIA. I'm not sure if Lebron would.

And if Lebron's not going there, then Wade will want max.

Still, even if they get all three, how are they going to fill the roster? By having those three, they will already be at the cap or right over the cap. They can't go out and sign FAs from another team, so a guy like Mike Miller wouldn't be able to sign unless it's a sign and trade involving Beasley, Chalmers or Joel Anthony. Only other options I see is the bird rule - resign your own players to go over the cap.

[jcmanson]

They'd have to dump Beasley and his contract which they are already planning on doing so.

[flamesbball84]

They'd have to dump Beasley and his contract which they are already planning on doing so.

Planning on it is the key. I have heard a lot more rumors saying they are finding it near impossible to do because no one wants to take on the $5 million he's being paid [apparently $5 million is a lot for an NBA player now!]. The only rumor with any legs of him being gone is the Bosh deal, and I've read from sources just as qualified as Lebatard that there is no such Bosh deal in the works.

Additionally, I think it's going to take more than $5 million to get the starting center and PG the heat would need to compete for the title to begin with. Chalmers/Alston/Arroyo aren't NBA Championship caliber starting PG. Jermaine O'Neal and/or Haslem might be able to get the job done at C for a championship team, but that's kinda iffy in my opinion. No one of that team is going to be able to guard Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol, or Andrew Bynum (when healthy). Bosh should be able to guard Pau at least, but Bosh is a mediocre defender at best.

Basically, I just don't see getting all three of them to be feasible. It's going to require them going over the cap just to fill their starting lineup if they get that trio. How are they going to add any depth without having to pay probably close to a record amount of luxury tax? As great as those players are, they can't play every position for 48 minutes or more a night...

[flamesbball84]

Actually, I just read that the Heat, if they got all three, would only be able to sign second round draft picks and minimum salary players. They would need to sign 10 of those types of players to meet roster requirements. So basically, the Heat would have three superstars, two solid but nothing spectacular role players, and 10 guys who basically amounted to nobodies.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/ ... ity-100701

[flamesbball84]

UPDATE NO. 2: The Miami Herald is citing league sources that say the sign-and-trade proposed below isn't legitimate.

Writes Michael Wallace: "Multiple league sources disputed the deal, including a high-level Raptors source who said the team had no real interest in Beasley or Chalmers. Toronto would, however, consider a $16 million trade exemption and the return of its first-round pick from Miami in the 2009 Jermaine O'Neal trade for a potential Bosh move."

Considering the Heat haven't found any takers for Beasley so far, this does make sense.

Courtesy of ESPN.

[thepostman]

would they have any of the MLE and veteran' exceptions to work with or would all of that be going towards getting the big 3?

I know that the Magic are over the cap but they are going to use several exceptions to fill some holes...thought maybe that is how miami would fill at least a couple other spots on the roster..

either way if they sign all 3 somehow they won't have much of a bench...i jut think that is stupid...2 max contracts is one thing..but why throw most of your money at 3 players?? only one of which has won anything...

[Sly Fox]

Does anybody else feel like Bosh is coming off as a 3rd rate player as a result of his begging the LeBron to be his sidekick.

And does LeBron realize that his legacy will be that of a 2nd tier star if he can't win a title without riding the coattails of D-Wade if he goes to the Heat?

[jcmanson]

And does LeBron realize that his legacy will be that of a 2nd tier star if he can't win a title without riding the coattails of D-Wade if he goes to the Heat?

And that's Miami's biggest hurdle to getting Lebron

[flamesbball84]

Does anybody else feel like Bosh is coming off as a 3rd rate player as a result of his begging the LeBron to be his sidekick.

And does LeBron realize that his legacy will be that of a 2nd tier star if he can't win a title without riding the coattails of D-Wade if he goes to the Heat?

Jordan couldn't win a title without Pippen. Kobe couldn't without Shaq and then Pau. Somehow I don't think Jordan and Kobe are considered 2nd tier stars.

[Th3rd]

Does anybody else feel like Bosh is coming off as a 3rd rate player as a result of his begging the LeBron to be his sidekick.

And does LeBron realize that his legacy will be that of a 2nd tier star if he can't win a title without riding the coattails of D-Wade if he goes to the Heat?

Jordan couldn't win a title without Pippen. Kobe couldn't without Shaq and then Pau. Somehow I don't think Jordan and Kobe are considered 2nd tier stars.

neither of those guys rode the others coattails either...