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By Realist
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#19604
The president stated before Marshall stepped up that the current contract remains in place.


You guys saying CofC is some true mid major are living in the 90's. I think he realized he has the College of Charleston of now. Winthrop is a true mid major and CofC just wants to get back to that status.
By SuperJon
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Marshall is smart. I don't necessarily like that guy, but he's a good coach and he's smart. Winthrop will win a game in the NCAA tournament this year. I'm calling that now. He's gonna be ridiculed though. I hope he's happy at Winthrop because this move will probably keep him there a while.
By givemethemic
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#19608
Nice to see that I was able to have a little bit of influence SJ at lunch!!!! I called that first....
By SuperJon
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I had no doubt they could do it. With Marshall there, it's very likely.


I would love to talk to Barber about this situation and get his opinion on what this does to Marshall down the road. I don't know if JB was at USC when the stuff with them happened, but he comes from a big-time school and has type of mindset.
By LUconn
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SuperJon wrote:Marshall is smart. I don't necessarily like that guy, but he's a good coach and he's smart. Winthrop will win a game in the NCAA tournament this year. I'm calling that now. He's gonna be ridiculed though. I hope he's happy at Winthrop because this move will probably keep him there a while.
I'm calling that they won't even get to the tournament.
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By bigsmooth
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winthrop will win the big south and get back to the dance...who is gonna beat them?? they clearly have the best talent. i really do not know why marshall even left. C of C's facility is no where near winthrop's, and other than coach kresse's success and i believe a few good years from tommy herrion.. i will take winthrop in a heartbeat.
By givemethemic
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#19618
Thank you for the backup smoothie... it's nice to see that Boo-hoo's and Tar Heels can agree sometimes together
By givemethemic
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#19626
haha that's pretty funny!!!!!
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By bigsmooth
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#19628
boo-hoos??? easy tar-hole!
By givemethemic
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ROCK HILL, S.C. -- Gregg Marshall returned to Winthrop's basketball team Thursday, one day after his rousing introduction at the College of Charleston.


"On the way home last night, I just didn't know if I could go through with it. I hope I can build back your trust."
Gregg Marshall
It seemed Marshall would try to restore the NCAA Tournament success the Cougars had under his former mentor, coach John Kresse. Instead, Marshall followed the path of former Georgia Tech coach Bobby Cremins, who accepted the job at his alma mater South Carolina in 1993 before going back to the Yellow Jackets a few days later.

Winthrop president Anthony DiGiorgio announced Marshall's return to a packed room of Eagles supporters. Marshall received a standing ovation that brought tears to his eyes, and had to compose himself before talking about the uneasiness he had after taking the Cougars job.

"On the way home last night, I just didn't know if I could go through with it," Marshall said. "I hope I can build back your trust."

Marshall said he spoke with DiGiorgio at midnight when the president told him he could come back if he wanted.

Marshall has led the Eagles to six NCAA Tournament appearances in his eight seasons there.

But Wednesday, Marshall pledged to bring the College of Charleston beyond where it had gone under Kresse. He was an assistant under Kresse from 1988-96 and was to replace Tom Herrion. However, no contract had been signed.

On Thursday, Marshall talked with Kresse for about an hour, explaining his decision.

"He's hurting right now just like I am," Marshall said. "It happened and I think we'll be OK."

Marshall said there was no one factor involved in the decision, but he thought it wasn't fair to the Cougars to have a coach filled with anxiety.

"They're spinning right now and I did not intend for that to happen," Marshall said.

Cremins had the same uneasiness about his move 13 years ago. He was joyously greeted by supporters and his old coach, the late Frank McGuire. But Cremins said after returning to Atlanta he had second thoughts.

The Gamecocks eventually hired Eddie Fogler, who led them to two NCAA appearances and the team's only Southeastern Conference regular season title.

The move caught the Cougars by surprise. On Thursday morning, a news release urging supporters to buy season tickets was sent out.

"Head coach Gregg Marshall and the Cougars look forward to seeing you all season long," the release said.

Messages left with College of Charleston athletic director Jerry Baker and Kresse weren't immediately returned.
By TIMSCAR20
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I just got a call from one of my coaching friends and he couldn't believe I didn't know this. I almost fell out of my chair! What a crazy move. I was just about to call down there and wish him well in his new job. Good thing I heard about this first. It is gonna be must see TV for sure next winter when we cover their game. So much to talk about from Peele almost getting the job, C of C still looking for a coach this late, The office dynamic now that he is back in WU. I would love to be an insider down there right now. Juicy stuff. Still can't believe this is true. Truth be told WU has a better program all around than C of C. The only thing C has over W is a slightly better PERCEIVED conference.
By givemethemic
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Question now is who gets the C of C job.... the Recruiting traills are open begining next week, they have got to make a move very quickly... I am sorry Smoothie...
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By TIMSCAR20
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Wouldn't it be ironic if Bobby Cremins got the job? What about Pete Gillen? That would be cool for me personally. Dave Dickerson at Tulane (formerly of Radford and MD) would be good too. Buzz is of course on the short list I would imagine.
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By bigsmooth
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#19643
TRAILS!!!!! give me the spell checker!!
By givemethemic
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Gillen will not take this job I talked to him about this a few months ago and his next job he said was going to be very close to the area because he has a kid still in school up in C-ville... Plus he really liked doing TV...
By LUconn
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is he gunning for the LU job? Over Dunton's dead body!
By Killn'emsoftly
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Givemethemic, on the 2nd page of this thread you said this was a great move for him to stay at Winthrop. The debate was it will hurt his career, Marshall even says that in the story in the Rock Hill Herald, "I know it may effect my career".... In this business people don't like to be embrassed and today the AD at Charleston was embrassed. Understand other AD's are watching. Yeah WU will be really good next year, but from now on the recruits of their program will have doubts if GM will be there, or at least other coaches should plant those doubts. One of his assistants didn't want to go to Charleston, he wanted to stay and work for the new boss at WU.... it will start to crumble eventually.

Bottom line is in this coaching business when you make a decision you better jump in with 2 feet and have your guns blazing... my guess is Gregg is real comfortable at Winthrop which he should be, but he better not be complacent or he will get passed by.

This was his first real opportunity to leave, very doubtful he gets another.
By givemethemic
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I am not saying what he did will help his stock, but if he wins a game in the tournament that will surely help erase some of the memory with other AD's.... Character is so important in the world, but we live in a "Win now" or else situation and I think if WU wins a game in the NCAA tourney that a bigger school will come calling.. Is it right, well that's up for you to decide...
By Realist
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That's some very wishful thinking by killem softly. If anything, this reinvigorates the program and solidifies that he is not leaving. He had his chance and decided it was better to stay. This won't be an issue to recruits, it will be a positive.
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By bigsmooth
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im not sure how this will effect marshall, but the winthrop president did say he will have to re-earn the trust of the winthrop community. i do think it could be in a recruit's mind of his flip-flopping, but in the end i feel like a recuit will see winthrop's success and sign on the dotted line.
By TIMSCAR20
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Truthfully in the Recruiting business we don't always know exactly why a person decides to choose your school or not choose it but I will say this. Other coaches will use this to recruit against Winthrop for players. Whether it works or not is subjective and really needs to be taken on a case by case basis. He will have to address it though in the recruiting process. I think he will handle it fine and get the calibre of player he has been getting but it might be a little tougher now. One extra hurdle to overcome I guess you would say.
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