[thepostman]

yeah I forgot about it after pages and pages of absolutely nothing

[drumnColby757]

I doubt anyone will touch us till next summer.

[Purple Haize]

I doubt anyone will touch us till next summer.

You are such a negative nelly. I can't believe you would give up like that !

[phoenix]

I doubt anyone will touch us till next summer.

You are such a negative nelly. I can't believe you would give up like that !

Now you're getting the negative nellies confused with the chicken littles. What is it with you doubting Thomases anyway??!!

[TH Spangler]

There are lots of rumors of even more movement.

I think the SB and MAC will make their final moves next to last, just before the "move up" hopeful's hear yea or nay on a new east conference.

I was listening to the College Sports Channel on XM yesterday and they had an interview with the Ohio State AD and he is calling for two levels within the FBS. An elite level of maybe 60 teams and then a second level of everybody else. Sounded like a redefined D1-A/D1-AA all over again?

[Blessed1]

The facts still remain....The only news we've heard thus far are: 1) McMurphy's tweet saying that the WAC is working hard, but no decision had been made to host football in '13, 2) Jeff Caves' comments about U of Idaho saying "no comment" and that he was trying to find more information on the meeting, and 3) Boise's continued pursuit of the Big West through monetary subsidies. I can totally understand the 'Doubting Thomas' mentality.

I am starting to wonder if Liberty have to do a 'Boise St' for themselves and the other eastern schools to make the WAC East happen in 2013.... *Arsenio Hall hmmmm*

[TallyW]

Obviously the further we are removed from actual conference meetings the likelihood of movement diminishes but for now we honestly haven't heard anything out of WAC ... from WAC. I'd assume we'll see at least some type of summary soon.

I can understand the BBall schools having more votes right now and therefore presenting a challenge to the football schools that may dart anyway. From the BBall perspective why would you want the headache of dealing with the East Coast if you signed up to be in a conference called the WAC... you may not see much advantage at all by helping keep the FBS tie-in.

As for the rest of the landscape, I'm not convinced that there will not continue to be movement over the summer. The good thing about being at the bottom of this totem poll is that anything falling from the top eventually gives us another shot.

I'm not concerned "if" we'll get in... I think that's a given... The question will be when we will hear more.

I think any talk about CAA or Independent status as an FCS school is pointless to me. We're about to leave... someone will take a shot on us. I also don't see a 1-to-1 correlation between FCS success and FBS success so I'm not worried about trying to prove anything at the FCS level. As soon as you recruit as an FBS, you get totally different student athletes. I'm certain our coaches in all sports will continue to win... no one enjoys the alternative... but I don't think that we have to prove anything else at this level to help our future cause. Look at App State and ODU. One is a historically strong program... one was strong out of the gate with players from other programs... The historically strong program is in our shoes... the newbie is moving up to the big leagues.

[NotAJerry]

I can understand the BBall schools having more votes right now and therefore presenting a challenge to the football schools that may dart anyway. From the BBall perspective why would you want the headache of dealing with the East Coast if you signed up to be in a conference called the WAC... you may not see much advantage at all by helping keep the FBS tie-in.

If the move happened like it looks it will, you've got a 16 team conference. Basketball could simply play an 18 game conference schedule where you play the 7 in your geographic division twice and play 4 in the other division on a rotating basis with 2 at home and 2 on the road each year. Schedule it so that a western team goes east once during the year and plays the two road games against eastern teams in one trip on something like Wednesday and Saturday and that problem is solved.

There are rumors of several western teams trying to get ready to move up for FBS in the near future, but not being ready yet. These basketball schools, if they're willing to hold out for 4-5 years with this plan, could very well see a situation where schools like Montana, Montana St., Lamar, Sam Houston St. and a two others make the move to FBS and give them a true western conference again with 8 FBS teams in addition to the basketball schools. The question probably centers around just how ready and willing some of those schools appear to actually be.

[Rooster Cogburn]

http://www2.journalnow.com/sports/2012/ ... r-2355810/

There also has been recent talk of the possibility of the Western Athletic Conference — down to two football-playing members as result of recent conference-membership shuffling — expanding eastward to take in some FCS members trying to move to the FBS.

Cobb said that ASU has been involved in a number of conversations, and is open to possibilities that might occur in continuing restructuring of individual conferences.

"If you look at the FBS — Conference USA, what the Sun Belt might do and the Mid-American Conference is one that has had conversations about possible expansion — and then the WAC (with two football members remaining) has something of value in that it is an FBS league," Cobb said.

"There are a lot of different conversations involving a lot of different scenarios and I don't think any of them have really fleshed themselves out and risen to the level to where a number of interested schools can say there is a solution.… It still needs to evolve."

Cobb said that Appalachian State is active in the exploration process, and that the goal remains to find a reasonable geographic fit that makes sense.

"I've talked to a lot of people," Cobb said. "Of course, (interested) schools don't dictate timelines to conferences. The leagues do."

[Blessed1]

Well no wonder the WAC eastern division had trouble getting off the ground.... New Mexico St was burning up their anytime minutes in Denver.

Lobos AD: While UNM supports NMSU's inclusion, other Mountain West schools have not

LAS CRUCES - Paul Krebs said that the University of New Mexico supports New Mexico State's inclusion into the Mountain West Conference.
While that's the good news for the Aggies, the bad news is that UNM's athletics director also said there's "simply not a lot of interest" from the other members of the respective league to bring NMSU on board.

Krebs made such comments on The Sports Bar, a radio program on the Albuquerque-based station 610 The Sports Animal. "(Former UNM President David) Schmidly before him, and (current) President (Robert) Frank, have both made the case for New Mexico State to come into the conference," Krebs said. "I think what you can gather from that statement is that there's not a lot of support from the other members of the league to have New Mexico State come in. (UNM is) just one vote. Both presidents, former and current, have advocated for New Mexico State. But, based upon the discussions that I hear in those meetings, there just isn't the support for New Mexico State to come into the league."

The UNM Board of Regents met on Tuesday and gave support for NMSU's inclusion into the Mountain West. "I think what the Board of Regents did yesterday was show support for a sister school in the state," Krebs said. "Obviously, New Mexico State is a big rival for us .... New Mexico State finds itself, from my view, in a very difficult situation. The Board of Regents thought it was in the best interest for the state of New Mexico and the best interest to support their candidacy .... I don't think it changes or has any impact on their ability to get into the league. But clearly it was the right thing to do, to show support for a sister school in the state.

"The point to recognize here is that I don't think what the Board did has any impact on New Mexico State getting into our conference. It will have zero affect."
Although there is the belief the Mountain West would like to expand to a 12-team football league, Krebs said the conference is happy with its current configuration - a 10-team football conference, and a nine-team olympic-sport alignment....

...WAC defections have left New Mexico State in a bind following the 2012-13 academic year - seemingly without a football league to play in, with them and Idaho as the only remaining football-playing schools in the WAC, and no place to call their home.NMSU's President Barbara Couture and Athletics Director McKinley Boston have both said the Mountain West is their No. 1 choice in terms of relocation.

"The schools typically send volumes of information to the ADs, to the presidents, to the conference office," Krebs said regarding respective athletics programs pursuing conference memberships. "It's not as though (the conference presidents) sit and decide what are the pros, what are the cons of adding somebody. There simply is not a lot of interest. And (the conversation) essentially dies."

http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-sp ... sion-other

[Rooster Cogburn]

http://www.wacsports.com/ViewArticle.db ... =205438836

DENVER – At its annual meeting this past week, the Western Athletic Conference Board of Directors approved several sports-related issues. The Board also discussed conference realignment opportunities and the nation’s changing landscape.

“The WAC Board of Directors continues to aggressively evaluate membership options,” WAC Interim Commissioner Jeff Hurd said. “We remain confident in the league’s future and will continue to survey and discuss several options.”

[BJWilliams]

Theyre gonna aggressively pursue themselves right out of existence if they arent careful

[Sly Fox]

Went to post thyat at the same time as you, Rooster. Not much of anything to note except that most of the championships for the next year will be held at lame duck venues. No surprise there. And they did announce some expansion ...

In other actions, the Board approved the addition of three affiliate members. CSU Bakersfield and Northern Colorado will join the WAC in swimming and diving, while Boise State will join the league in gymnastics.

Click Here for Full Release

Yeah, not exactly the expansion decisions everyone was hoping for in Denver.

[Blessed1]

The WAC is notoriously slow and non-aggressive on these sorts of things, which is why they are in this position in the first place. Doesn't shock me. If C-USA plucks a couple of Sun Belt teams we may still find a home.

Agreed. The WAC's best bet is to invite 6 teams for 2013 and maybe 3 or 4 for 2014. The plan below prepares the WAC for future raids from the Sun Belt.

In 2013, invite:
Liberty
App St
Georgia Southern
Jacksonville St
Lamar
Sam Houston St

These schools have already inquired about the WAC for membership. In my personal opinion, they're the most prepared to make a quick jump for 2013.

In 2014, invite:
Youngstown St
North Dakota St (http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/63709/)
South Dakota St

All three schools hail from the Missouri Valley football conference. YSU maybe a wildcard pick for 2013, but I am not sure about them. ND State have already started FBS chatter because most of their FCS rivals are jumping to the FBS. SD State will serve as a traveling partner for ND State.

In 2015:
Try to Invite 4-6 Big Sky schools starting with Montana St and Montana. Hopefully for the WAC their original plan will come to pass, plus Cal Poly and UC Davis in 2014, however 2015 could be a realistic date. (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... es-In-Hand).

[Sly Fox]

BU to the Patriot League ...

Patriot League News Release

Wow, scratch another target off the CAA's list. That league has to be getting more desperate by the minute. The odds of CCU getting an invite grows by the day.

[logic]

One would think Stony Brook would get the CAA invite before CCU... Any thoughts on that one Sly?

[ballah09]

Stony Brook just said they are interested in the FBS. Not Sure if they willing to go to CAA and pay the 1 million fee or CAA invites them at all. Them being a AAU research school with the Long Island Market make them a very attractive candidate.

[Sly Fox]

Yes, Stony Brook is probably #2 on the CAA's wish list behind Appalachian State. But frankly the Seawolves may be feeling that they are ready for FBS after their recent success in football & baseball. And frankly, they may be right.

For the record, I talked to a buddy of mine in the NYC media who was out at SBU to interview the team before they left for Omaha. He was stunned how awful the baseball facilities were. he claimed they would be poor for a high school.

If Stony Brook is serious about FBS, they have some major investing in their infrastructure before it can happen. As a result, I wouldn't be shocked to see them slide into the CAA as a travel partner for Hofstra. But I'm not sure anyone is that excited about jumping into the CAA boat right now that is taking on water quickly.

Some of the other rumored CAA candidates include VMI, Hampton, Albany & Elon. Seriously.

We really could use some developments to help us to get somewhere in FBS. And frankly, it doesn't really matter where.

[RVAparks]

So say Stony Brook goes FBS and Maine/NH go to CAA then the dynamic between the America East, NEC, and MAAC could get pretty interesting.

[Sly Fox]

Under that scenario, the NEC would be out of business. IMHO it is only possible if Stony Brook goes CAA and Albany is invited as well.

[logic]

We really could use some developments to help us to get somewhere in FBS. And frankly, it doesn't really matter where.

Could not agree more. What are your sources telling you Sly? Surely there must be something out there. The lack of leaked information is not a good sign.

[jbock13]

We really could use some developments to help us to get somewhere in FBS. And frankly, it doesn't really matter where.

Could not agree more. What are your sources telling you Sly? Surely there must be something out there. The lack of leaked information is not a good sign.

Or maybe, God forbid, it's a sign that we need to calm down and realize that an invite may take some time.

[BJWilliams]

We really could use some developments to help us to get somewhere in FBS. And frankly, it doesn't really matter where.

Could not agree more. What are your sources telling you Sly? Surely there must be something out there. The lack of leaked information is not a good sign.

Or maybe, God forbid, it's a sign that we need to calm down and realize that an invite may take some time.

QFT. We need to settle down. the lack of information doesnt mean that we are doomed to purgatory forever...just means that people are keeping it close to the vest, and like jbock said, it will require more patience than some people are currently displaying.

[Sly Fox]

The sources I usually tap have bigger fish to fry than what is happening in the WAC or Sun Belt. But I am not hearing much of anything except the rumors that are floating around all of the boards.

[Purple Haize]

We really could use some developments to help us to get somewhere in FBS. And frankly, it doesn't really matter where.

Could not agree more. What are your sources telling you Sly? Surely there must be something out there. The lack of leaked information is not a good sign.

Or maybe, God forbid, it's a sign that we need to calm down and realize that an invite may take some time.

Pessimistic poopy head!