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By alum82
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I watched the Duke-UVA game and have completely changed my view of Seth Curry. I am now hoping SC does very well at Duke. I still think he is too small to really become a star there but I hope he does as well as a little guy can do in the ACC. It hit me during the game that Seth and RM for that matter will help our program much more by leaving than they ever could have helped it by staying at LU. SC could never have been the one big guy who made the difference for LU in a Big Dance game one or two and RM would never have taken our program to the next level but both of those guys will help raise the profile of our program in their new roles at Duke and UVA.
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By jcmanson
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alum82 wrote: but both of those guys will help raise the profile of our program in their new roles at Duke and UVA.
I disagree
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By Cider Jim
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After his first year at Duke, will they still call him "the transfer from Liberty"? :dontgetit

And who cares (in the media) who a team's assistant coach is? Is not like he's ever interviewed on TV to talk about his BRIEF tenure at LU. :evil:
By alum82
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Cider Jim wrote:After his first year at Duke, will they still call him "the transfer from Liberty"? :dontgetit

And who cares (in the media) who a team's assistant coach is? Is not like he's ever interviewed on TV to talk about his BRIEF tenure at LU. :evil:
The answer to your first question is yes, probably so, just not as often. If they do it only occasionally, it will help us more than if he had stayed. He really did nothing for our program as a player.

I agree about RM to some extent but insiders (by that, I mean people involved in the recruitment process) know his background and this job could be a stepping stone for him so that he is more high profile in the future. Again, any attention LU gets by RM being an assistant coach at an ACC team is better for us than if he had stayed at LU. He just didn't have the right stuff to get the job done at LU, period.
By LUconn
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alum82 wrote: it will help us more than if he had stayed. He really did nothing for our program as a player.
Why why why why why do people just keep making stuff up? We were all here. We were all paying attention. It's all recorded in the archives of this very message board. I get trying to look at the silver lining or maybe even playing a little spin doctor to paint thing in a good light but come on. And it's not just you, everybody here keeps trying to act like we ran these guys out of here for the better.
By olldflame
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You can make the argument that we have a better coach now than we did 2 years ago, but there is no way we are not a better team with Seth. Just take a look at Jeremy's 3 point shooting % lately. We really need another perimeter threat, and JC has been inconsistant. A 3 guard rotation with Evan, Jesse, and Seth, and with all 3 of them together for at least 15 minutes a game would be unstoppable in the BSC. The only question is, would Evan have signed if Seth were still here? No way of knowing.
By From the class of 09
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olldflame wrote:You can make the argument that we have a better coach now than we did 2 years ago, but there is no way we are not a better team with Seth. Just take a look at Jeremy's 3 point shooting % lately. We really need another perimeter threat, and JC has been inconsistant. A 3 guard rotation with Evan, Jesse, and Seth, and with all 3 of them together for at least 15 minutes a game would be unstoppable in the BSC. The only question is, would Evan have signed if Seth were still here? No way of knowing.
This is all true...I thought the game on Saturday showed how little depth we have at the 2 spot when Evan got in foul trouble.
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By Cider Jim
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olldflame wrote:The only question is, would Evan have signed if Seth were still here? No way of knowing.
If BJ has Evan on speed dial, he needs to make the call for us, olldflame, because inquiring minds want to know! 8)

And I'm sure Carter thinks he can play the 2-guard, if there's a need. :oops:
By Hold My Own
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Seth Curry isnt walking through that door!!! Ritchie McKay isnt walking through that door!!!!
By From the class of 09
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Hold My Own wrote:Seth Curry isnt walking through that door!!! Ritchie McKay isnt walking through that door!!!!
:shock:
By olldflame
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Of course not. Some of us were responding to people who are suggesting we are better off without them, and I really think that's sour grapes and not realistic. We're doing great without them, and I love Dale Layer, but talent is talent, and we do not exactly have a surplus of shooters right now.
By Hold My Own
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I was just being funny....that Rick Pitno clip is an all time fav :)
By Bigsouthking
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belcherboy wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:Tonight was a big night for Seth...he's playing inspired basketball unlike anything I've ever seen him play or know he was capable of. The effort is what is shocking more than anything.....b/c if you ever saw him at LU practices he was generally the one with the least amount of effort
All he did last night was make shots -- clap clap -- that's what he does obviously, he is good at that and he will make shots again, but he still doesn't play a ton of minutes and won't because he has high major flaws! #lackofdefense

If his name was Seth Scarboro or Seth Manson or Seth Dunton or Seth Meyer he would be playing D-2 or D-3 ball.

WOW!! :dontgetit

Curry doesn't play defense, but leads the team in steals. Maybe he isn't the best defender on the team, but he has to have SOME defensive skill to lead them in steals. Perhaps he cheats too much and gives up too much, but from the Duke games I've seen, he seems to be a pretty good defender.

Also....."all he did last night was make shots" and yet you think that he only got the opportunity to play at Duke (and obviously he only got playing time at Liberty) because his last name is Curry?

How is 21 minutes a game, not a ton of minutes for a transfer sophomore on the #1 team in the nation?

If he is as untalented as you say, 1) why are/were people upset when he left Liberty?, 2) why was he considered among all the leagues coaches as one of the best players in the Big South (of which I hope is better than D-2 or D-3 where you say he belongs), 3) why does a D-2 or D-3 caliber player getting significant time as a sophomore on the #1 team in the nation? Coach K is now buying into the "last name" hype as well?

I think bitterness has more to do with your opinion of Seth Curry than his actual talent.

Bottom line, as a Liberty fan, I'm glad that unappreciated High School kids are seeing Seth Curry's playing time at Duke, and hearing how he got to Duke through Liberty College (I too wish he had called it University). Those kids who don't seem to get the respect they deserve, and are talented, now have more of a reason to go to a smaller program like Liberty in hopes of jumping to a bigger D-I school later on. I have no problem with that, as not all of them who might come to LU will want to sit out a year to join a bigger program, and others may just fall in love with Liberty and decide to stay.

My opinion....Curry did the right thing. He will be a better equipped player by going to Duke. The NBA doesn't necessarily give preference to players from bigger programs, but I believe Europe likes the big names, and if Seth wants to coach someday, having been taught by Coach K adds A LOT to a resume IMO. If the NBA is in his future, going to Duke from Liberty doesn't hurt those dreams IMO. If he wants a career in basketball (Europe or coaching) I think his time at Duke helps him more than if he would have stayed at LU. Just my two cents.


Some of you have no actual hoop knowledge you just watch and cheer --- Curry wasnt impressive against UVA... Lucky he is playing since Irving is out... Read my earlier post in this thread I speak about sour grapes.... the kid and his family disrespected LU just like Conley did at VMI. America teaches to quit and change teams now days... mentality in america is lack of commitment.

i'm done with curry thread, he quit on Jesse, Smitty, KO, and rest of team 2 years ago. my 2 pennies
By From the class of 09
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Dude that's from the 10th I think that was the Maryland game. :lol: yes he quit but that doesn't mean he's garbage your so biased it's not even funny (although it kind of is) :lol:
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By Purple Haize
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Obviously, BurgerKing doesn't know the basketball pedigree of some of the posters. I knoow of at least 2 who coached at the collegiate level, at least one that played at the professional level and a handfull that played at the collegiate level. Hmmm. Yep, not a lot of basketball knowledge here.
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By BJWilliams
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I think that BSK has been blinded by his seething bitterness and hatred towards the young Curry.
By From the class of 09
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BJWilliams wrote:I think that BSK has been blinded by his seething bitterness and hatred towards the young Curry.
Hey watch your mouth BSK has coached Upward basketball and has even won a few games :P :lol:
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By prototype
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The King has spoke, let everyone listen to his words...

Basketball? Is that the sport with the racket with the net in it?

King - there are many knowledgeable people on this board. Say what you want - you don't get playing time at Duke unless you are good... Doesn't take a basketball genius to figure that out. That's like saying, if Nolan Smith came to Liberty he would be just be an average player? IT'S DUKE - you wouldn't have passed up on that opportunity either...
By LUconn
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Shavlik Randolph got a lot of PT.
By Bigsouthking
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Purple Haize wrote:Obviously, BurgerKing doesn't know the basketball pedigree of some of the posters. I knoow of at least 2 who coached at the collegiate level, at least one that played at the professional level and a handfull that played at the collegiate level. Hmmm. Yep, not a lot of basketball knowledge here.
Yes I forgot that basketball was invented on top of Liberty moutain....by either Dale Gibson or Ed Gomes. :lol:
By alum82
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LUconn wrote:
alum82 wrote: it will help us more than if he had stayed. He really did nothing for our program as a player.
Why why why why why do people just keep making stuff up? We were all here. We were all paying attention. It's all recorded in the archives of this very message board. I get trying to look at the silver lining or maybe even playing a little spin doctor to paint thing in a good light but come on. And it's not just you, everybody here keeps trying to act like we ran these guys out of here for the better.
OK, so I shouldn't have said "he did nothing for our program as a player". I should have said we have a better team with 7 very good players than we had with one "awesome" player. He hurt us because he hogged the ball and took whatever shots he wanted. RM hurt us because he mistakenly believed that our team depended on SC. Now, we have team players and A BETTER TEAM!
By olldflame
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Schfourteenteen wrote:Better team? I'm not sure what stats or records could support that.
7-1
Best record we have ever had at this point in the BSC.
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By prototype
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alum82 wrote:
LUconn wrote:
alum82 wrote: it will help us more than if he had stayed. He really did nothing for our program as a player.
Why why why why why do people just keep making stuff up? We were all here. We were all paying attention. It's all recorded in the archives of this very message board. I get trying to look at the silver lining or maybe even playing a little spin doctor to paint thing in a good light but come on. And it's not just you, everybody here keeps trying to act like we ran these guys out of here for the better.
OK, so I shouldn't have said "he did nothing for our program as a player". I should have said we have a better team with 7 very good players than we had with one "awesome" player. He hurt us because he hogged the ball and took whatever shots he wanted. RM hurt us because he mistakenly believed that our team depended on SC. Now, we have team players and A BETTER TEAM!
OK - I agree with that...
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