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By BuryYourDuke
#569034 Why? Because a college student yelled something racist from the stands at a game, or at least that’s what his attorney says. So he shouldn’t have to sit out a year.

https://sports.yahoo.com/justin-fields-eligibility-will-college-footballs-biggest-offseason-storyline-211837092.html
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By Cider Jim
#569040 Waiting for Ballcoach to respond to this one...
By BuryYourDuke
#569043 The baseball angle being that he wouldn’t feel safe playing baseball there?

I’m all for the kid’s right to transfer to Ohio State if he’s not good enough to beat out Jake From State Fromm.

But hiring a troll attorney and cynically claiming to feel “unsafe” due to racism so you don’t have to follow the rules speaks pretty horrifically of his and his father’s character.

Never thought I would say this in my life, but I’m rooting for Tate.
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By adam42381
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BuryYourDuke wrote:Why? Because a college student yelled something racist from the stands at a game, or at least that’s what his attorney says. So he shouldn’t have to sit out a year.

https://sports.yahoo.com/justin-fields-eligibility-will-college-footballs-biggest-offseason-storyline-211837092.html



BuryYourDuke wrote:The baseball angle being that he wouldn’t feel safe playing baseball there?

I’m all for the kid’s right to transfer to Ohio State if he’s not good enough to beat out Jake From State Fromm.

But hiring a troll attorney and cynically claiming to feel “unsafe” due to racism so you don’t have to follow the rules speaks pretty horrifically of his and his father’s character.

Never thought I would say this in my life, but I’m rooting for Tate.


I don’t understand your outrage here. A Georgia baseball player called him the N-word and was kicked off the team for it. It happened. You don’t know whether he feels unsafe or not.
By ballcoach15
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Cider Jim wrote:Waiting for Ballcoach to respond to this one...



The dumbest person in the country should know Fields is transferring because he is #2 on depth chart at Georgia. Even the NCAA knows this.
Baseball has nothing to do with this transfer. Zero.
I hope he has to sit out a year, and never sees the field for Ohio State. Anyone who transfers from SEC to Big 10 isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
By BuryYourDuke
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adam42381 wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:Why? Because a college student yelled something racist from the stands at a game, or at least that’s what his attorney says. So he shouldn’t have to sit out a year.

https://sports.yahoo.com/justin-fields-eligibility-will-college-footballs-biggest-offseason-storyline-211837092.html



BuryYourDuke wrote:The baseball angle being that he wouldn’t feel safe playing baseball there?

I’m all for the kid’s right to transfer to Ohio State if he’s not good enough to beat out Jake From State Fromm.

But hiring a troll attorney and cynically claiming to feel “unsafe” due to racism so you don’t have to follow the rules speaks pretty horrifically of his and his father’s character.

Never thought I would say this in my life, but I’m rooting for Tate.


I don’t understand your outrage here. A Georgia baseball player called him the N-word and was kicked off the team for it. It happened. You don’t know whether he feels unsafe or not.


A fan, who also happened to play on the baseball team, in a crowd of 90k or so people called him the “N-Word” from the stands. That person lost his scholarship and was removed from the baseball team. No one that I know would condone that behavior.

If he feels unsafe due to that, there are bigger issues at play than his inability to wrestle the starting job from Fromm. But we all know that isn’t the case. He just wants to be able to start somewhere, and that’s fine. But he should have to sit for a year like everyone else. This is why I don’t like the “snowflake” moniker. People aren’t snowflakes at all. People aren’t scared. People have weaponized culture and language to get whatever they want done.

Nevertheless, the supply of people too cowardly to stand up to this obvious and cynical ploy on his camp’s part seems to be endless. The NCAA will approve it without blinking.
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By RubberMallet
#569099 if he wins with that poor of an argument, this will open the floodgates. shea won because of documented violations by Liberty's new HC. and it apparently was only by slim margins that he did.

what will be interesting is that Tate Martell is legit. There is no guarantee that fields will be the starter at OSU either.
By BuryYourDuke
#569102 Agree on all points.

If Martell were a few inches taller he would be an NFL prospect.
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By BJWilliams
#569148 That is true, but Drew Brees is an example of a "shorter" quarterback who can be successful at the NFL level. If Martell wins the job, he will need to show an elite level of accuracy to see that to fruition though
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By RubberMallet
#569249 brees was a prostyle qb at purdue. martell is not. he doesn't have the arm accuracy anywhere close to that or haskins. not saying it can't develop but if he's drafted, its for something other than QB in my opinion.
By JK37
#569514 College football has also reached the point where many WB’s come already “coached up”. Just look at who the best QB on the field was Monday night.
By ballcoach15
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JK37 wrote:College football has also reached the point where many WB’s come already “coached up”. Just look at who the best QB on the field was Monday night.



WB's ? Do you mean QB's ?

Freshmen QBs do come more prepared now than in the past.
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By RubberMallet
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BuryYourDuke wrote:New coach must have let him know that this won’t be an open competition.


thats the speculation. on 11warriors (the big OSU forum) they are freaking out because many don't believe that fields will get his appeal approved. But others are like, this wouldn't of happened if they didn't know for sure but Martell has been a loudmouth through this entire process.
By JK37
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ballcoach15 wrote:
JK37 wrote:College football has also reached the point where many WB’s come already “coached up”. Just look at who the best QB on the field was Monday night.



WB's ? Do you mean QB's ?

Freshmen QBs do come more prepared now than in the past.


Yes, meant QB’s. Thanks for clearing that up BC.
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By BJWilliams
#569752 And looks like Austin Kendall at OU is possibly headed to tbe transfer portal (if he isnt in it already)
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By CCWMichael
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ballcoach15 wrote:All these transfers remind me of elementary school playground where we "chose up" and played at recess every day. Different teams every day.


And, we have not even addressed coaching carousels

Bidness is bidness
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote:All these transfers remind me of elementary school playground where we "chose up" and played at recess every day. Different teams every day.


Sociologists will tell you that the #1 problem with Sport today is the decline and vanishing of Play.
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By RubberMallet
#569803 while i think this isn't good, i think the NCAA doesn't care about this at all. It keeps them in headlines and allowing players more freedom in this regard may allow them to shed the "pay them" criticism somewhat. at least allow them to kick the can down the road.
By ballcoach15
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Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:All these transfers remind me of elementary school playground where we "chose up" and played at recess every day. Different teams every day.


Sociologists will tell you that the #1 problem with Sport today is the decline and vanishing of Play.


I have always maintained that all sports, this side of Professional ranks (MLB, NFL, NBA) should be about playing the sport and trying to win championships............................not $$$$$$$$$.
By oldflame
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Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:All these transfers remind me of elementary school playground where we "chose up" and played at recess every day. Different teams every day.


Sociologists will tell you that the #1 problem with Sport today is the decline and vanishing of Play.


How well I know. It's even getting that way here in the 3rd world. I have daily interactions with about a dozen kids between the ages of 2 and 14. They love to play............. video games. I did manage to find something they actually like to actively play with. Bought 3 nerf guns and 100 foam darts for about 25 bucks on Amazon as Christmas presents. They love it, but after about 20 minutes it's back to the tablet, laptop and cellphone. I try to set time limits, but it's tough. I've already told my son that in a couple of years when he is old enough he is going to baseball school in the afternoon after he finishes class. He seems to like the idea right now. We'll see.
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By Purple Haize
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oldflame wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:All these transfers remind me of elementary school playground where we "chose up" and played at recess every day. Different teams every day.


Sociologists will tell you that the #1 problem with Sport today is the decline and vanishing of Play.


How well I know. It's even getting that way here in the 3rd world. I have daily interactions with about a dozen kids between the ages of 2 and 14. They love to play............. video games. I did manage to find something they actually like to actively play with. Bought 3 nerf guns and 100 foam darts for about 25 bucks on Amazon as Christmas presents. They love it, but after about 20 minutes it's back to the tablet, laptop and cellphone. I try to set time limits, but it's tough. I've already told my son that in a couple of years when he is old enough he is going to baseball school in the afternoon after he finishes class. He seems to like the idea right now. We'll see.


Well you are closer in understanding than ballcoach unsurprisingly. We no longer allow kids to just Play. It has to be organized with rules, score and championships. There is plenty of time for that but the idea of Sport has filtered so far down into Youth Activities it’s sad. With your 3 nerf guns and 100 nerf darts you did more for those kids at that age then setting up a double elimination round robin tournament
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By CCWMichael
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Purple Haize wrote:Well you are closer in understanding than ballcoach unsurprisingly. We no longer allow kids to just Play. It has to be organized with rules, score and championships. There is plenty of time for that but the idea of Sport has filtered so far down into Youth Activities it’s sad. With your 3 nerf guns and 100 nerf darts you did more for those kids at that age then setting up a double elimination round robin tournament


#Strong
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By RubberMallet
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Purple Haize wrote:
Sociologists will tell you that the #1 problem with Sport today is the decline and vanishing of Play.

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drive around sometime in the spring and summer and you notice a few things. The first that there are no kids playing pickup games of baseball or football at parks...basketball courts sit for the most part empty. That is a symptom of multiple things i believe.

the First obviously (but i say is the lesser of all reasons) is the "video game" excuse. but it hink its more screen time not necessarily video games. we had nintendo/supernintendo/genesis back then too.

the 2nd is that many of the fields that i grew up playing on is now maintained by the local HEAT/VIPERS/ETC ETC traveling teams and are off limits to just playing on.

which leads me to the 3rd. Kids don't have time to just enjoy casually the game they play during that season. the season is 365 now. I have a good number of buddies who teach baseball stuff as individual trainers. they are BOOKED solid all the time. Last year we wanted to rent an indoor hitting facility to hit some bp for our mens slowpitch league. all booked solid for weeks. And there are like 20 of them in old warehouses that didn't exist 20years ago. when a kid has downtime, do you think they want to do more o that at the park with their friends? no.

I was helping in sunday school with children and there were some 10 yr old boys talking about baseball and i joined in the discussion and asked if they every played home run derby. they werelike you mean like the mlb home run derby. i said yeah like by yourselves, got he park and see who can hit the most hr's. and they looked at me like i was crazy. i was just like Stupid Hose is going on.

We've taken the fun out of the sport in a way. everything is about that eventual highlight reel they'll need to get into college. its about getting those scholarship offers when they are in jr high. its about selling kids (moreso parents) on buying that lottery ticket because the odds are great (they aren't) of winning.

my best friend is the president of the local little league and his kids is in his last year and he's done. he's taken 3 kids through it and what its become or how crippled little league is due to aau/private travel ball teams is bad.
By ballcoach15
#569920 Good post RubberMallet.

Several years ago I was at a Middle School. The physical education class was playing shuffle board or something like that. I stopped and asked the teacher why they were not playing softball ? She replied, "somebody might get hurt". Team sports are not taught in elementary, middle and even high schools like they were when I was there. When I was in school, we played whatever sport was in season, every day.
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By Purple Haize
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RubberMallet wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
Sociologists will tell you that the #1 problem with Sport today is the decline and vanishing of Play.



drive around sometime in the spring and summer and you notice a few things. The first that there are no kids playing pickup games of baseball or football at parks...basketball courts sit for the most part empty. That is a symptom of multiple things i believe.

the First obviously (but i say is the lesser of all reasons) is the "video game" excuse. but it hink its more screen time not necessarily video games. we had nintendo/supernintendo/genesis back then too.

the 2nd is that many of the fields that i grew up playing on is now maintained by the local HEAT/VIPERS/ETC ETC traveling teams and are off limits to just playing on.

which leads me to the 3rd. Kids don't have time to just enjoy casually the game they play during that season. the season is 365 now. I have a good number of buddies who teach baseball stuff as individual trainers. they are BOOKED solid all the time. Last year we wanted to rent an indoor hitting facility to hit some bp for our mens slowpitch league. all booked solid for weeks. And there are like 20 of them in old warehouses that didn't exist 20years ago. when a kid has downtime, do you think they want to do more o that at the park with their friends? no.

I was helping in sunday school with children and there were some 10 yr old boys talking about baseball and i joined in the discussion and asked if they every played home run derby. they werelike you mean like the mlb home run derby. i said yeah like by yourselves, got he park and see who can hit the most hr's. and they looked at me like i was crazy. i was just like Stupid Hose is going on.

We've taken the fun out of the sport in a way. everything is about that eventual highlight reel they'll need to get into college. its about getting those scholarship offers when they are in jr high. its about selling kids (moreso parents) on buying that lottery ticket because the odds are great (they aren't) of winning.

my best friend is the president of the local little league and his kids is in his last year and he's done. he's taken 3 kids through it and what its become or how crippled little league is due to aau/private travel ball teams is bad.[/quote]

My point exactly
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By Jonathan Carone
#569925 A large portion of kids not playing is also the fact that parents won’t let their kids go off on their own. It was nothing for me to ride my bike two miles to the park and hang out there most the day. That doesn’t happen today.
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By RubberMallet
#569926 thats another great point. when reality is that abductions aren't happening at a higher rate we just know about every abduction now.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:We talked 8 miles to play ball 3 times a week.


I’m sure you did.

(A slip to be sure, but also surely a Freudian one.)


He meant he talked the entire 8 miles