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By Sly Fox
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#17880
This could potentially be a blockbuster for the Big South if CCU doesn't bolt to the SoCon. If ETSU were to bring back football they could join the Big South and get us auto bid eligible in half the time it will take for PC to help us any.
Task force rejuvenates ETSU football supporters

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By Trey Williams
Press Sports Writer
twilliams@johnsoncitypress.com
June 11, 2006

UNICOI – News that East Tennessee State President Paul Stanton has agreed to work with the Buccaneer Football & Friends Foundation in an attempt to bring back football generated most every reaction from shock to jubilation Saturday at the foundation’s third annual cookout.
The Farmhouse Gallery & Gardens barbecue appeared to taste even better to fans who were starved for good news at the same venue the past two Junes.

Willie Bush, an All-Ohio Valley Conference defensive end who played on John Robert Bell’s 1969 Grantland Rice Bowl team, appeared more relieved than elated.

“I think it was definitely a positive move to form a task force,” Bush said. “Actually, I was surprised. It’s a big step in the right direction toward bringing it back.”

Obviously, many are still skeptical. But Stanton’s tone, both in a Friday meeting where he told the foundation board members he’d start the task force and an interview afterward, zapped a lot skepticism.

“I think all of us that attended the meeting came away very pleased,” said foundation board member Ken Simonds. “It’s a long way from the wish to the accomplishment, but I feel very good about it happening right now.”

There is talk of an outdoor football stadium, perhaps near the Appalachian Fair grounds in Gray.

“A venue is something that has to be considered, and I am 100 percent convinced that it has to be outside,” Stanton said. “Any of those things would be open to consideration.”

He also indicated that football’s return will hinge on being done the right way.

“I think we will have a better business plan and market better,” Stanton said.

Many believe ETSU’s move to the Atlantic Sun Conference, triggered by its dropping football, has all but ensured, even expedited, football’s return. The Atlantic Sun has lost Central Florida, Troy University, Florida Atlantic and Georgia State in the last couple of years while adding North Florida, Kennesaw State, USC Upstate and Florida Gulf Coast (all schools previously at the Divsion II level).

ETSU finding any other conference – be it one that’s more sexy or geographically friendly – appears like a longshot without football. Stanton said football, funded properly, would help ETSU be all it can be.

“I just really think we’ll all be better off,” Stanton said.

It goes much further than the game for former ETSU linebacker Derek Fudge. A Panama City, Fla., native who played on the 1996 team that reached the Division I-AA playoff quarterfinals in Missoula, Mont., Fudge has stayed in the area.

He’s programs coordinator for the Johnson City Housing Authority. He points to other area residents which Johnson City has transplanted. Craig Charles (Boston) owns a barber shop: Craig’s Crown Cuts. Chuck Sutton (Jacksonville, Fla.) married a great Johnson City girl (Barbara) and works as a probation officer.

Brandon Roller (Alpharetta, Ga.) and Andrew Simmons (Goose Creek, S.C.), who displayed the purest passion while playing at varying degrees of undersized when they initially moved into the defensive line’s interior, have stayed in the area.

Roller works in Bristol. Simmons owns a clothing store, Urbanology, on West Market Street.

James Russell (St. Augustine, Fla,), the blur off the edge at the snap of the ball in the mid-90s, works in Bluff City.

“I probably wouldn’t have ever heard of Johnson City if not (for ETSU football),” Fudge said.

Of course that’s all irrelevant if no one’s picking up the tab. Now a businessman himself, Charles once said he could better see both sides of it.

Oddly enough, there are those who believe, in the grand scheme of things, these dismal days could’ve been the best thing for ETSU football. Except for a brief period during the Keener Fry-Cavan run of the mid-1990s, Bucs football has been funded like a necessary evil since at least the Mike Ayers era of the 1980s.

It’s had a poor venue, a worse budget and hit-and-miss marketing at best. Anything Ayers, Cavan and Paul Hamilton accomplished – and they all had their moments – came against the odds.

As one ardent football supporter said this week, “Who knows, if football comes back stronger and this has shown us how to do it the right way, maybe what happened was the best thing that could happen.”
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By PAmedic
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Don't remember much about this school- would the BSOUTH be a good fit for them?

what are their demographics- size, location, leagues, etc?
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By bigsmooth
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i have been hoping they would try to revive football. ETSU used to be a longtime member of the SoCon, but after they dropped football they moved to the A-Sun. that league has become a transient league, and ETSU would be a great fit to the big south. back in SCAR's day and even into the 90's they had an excellent hoops program, and they also play in a dome...even though it's pretty bad. they are located in johnson city, TN, so a great geographic footprint.
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By Sly Fox
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Mister Jennings, anyone?

Seriously they would be a GREAT fit for the Big South. It fits geographically and athletically. If they add football they would be a fantastic addition. The A-Sun has fallen to pieces since they joined it. They clearly want out and know football is their best shot at a better life.
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By PAmedic
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wouldn't it be more likely that the SoCon would take them back, seeing as how they are former members, or is the "woman scorned" theory coming into play here?
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By bigsmooth
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i subscribe to the theory that the SoCon would not take them back. i even think that could be a key piece in coastal and VMI staying.
By TIMSCAR20
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#17913
Did someone say ETSU? Reminds me of a story.... :wink: This conference stuff is crazy. Things can go great for Liberty in terms of conference affiliation with the CAA getting 1A football or things can go terribly wrong by getting stuck in a lame duck Big South Conference (if everyone leaves that is). I guess only time will tell what happens.
By Libertine
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If Birmingham-Southern was ever considered a fit for the Big South, ETSU certainly fits -- particularly if they bring back football. Geographically, they're in Johnson City which is about an hour from Bristol. Academically, they're on par w/ most Big South schools and, athletically, they still have a very strong men's basketball program. Considering the way they left the SoCon, I don't see that conference inviting them back outside of some extraordinary unforeseen circumstances.

If ETSU actually does this, I think the real questions that have to be asked are:

-- Will they be a scholarship program? This issue was one of the sticking points when they dropped the program in the first place and if they don't fund schollies will they rather go to the Pioneer conference?

-- Where will they play? Stanton seems to make it pretty clear that a return to Memorial Center is not an option. Having been to that sorry excuse for a "dome", I'm happy to hear that.
By A.G.
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ETSU would be a great rival for UNC-A, too. But here is how I see everything shaking out.
ETSU goes into the OVC, as Austin Peay is bringing back scholarship football, too. So I think the Pioneer will be out.
VMI leaves
CCU leaves
Kyle leaves to become associate commish at a big conference.
The Big South folds and LU is left out in the cold.
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By Sly Fox
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#17926
Talk about your abundant optimism.
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By TallyW
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#17928
Wow A.G... have you taken your medicine today?
By LUconn
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A.G. wrote:Kyle leaves to become associate commish at a big conference.
The Big South folds and LU is left out in the cold.
Yes because he is the brain trust that is keeping this conference together. I wouldn't be surprised if the conference flourished in his absence. Need I remind you of his last job?
By A.G.
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#17937
That's right, Kyle oversaw the demise of the SW Conference.
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By bigsmooth
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#17995
WOW!!! ETSU fan hates the A-Sun as much as some hate the big south. we need to be showing the love to these guys and KK needs to be on the phone...better yet making a trip to johnson city.
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