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NCAA Pre-Nationals

Posted: October 12th, 2007, 9:32 pm
by 01LUGrad
Pre-Nats will be held tomorrow at Indiana State in Terre Haute, IN. LU has been randomly placed in the white race (the other is the blue race). Josh holds the 8k course record.

On a very related note, I heard on the audio interview with Coach Tolsma (http://liberty.edgeboss.net/download/li ... -11-07.mp3) that a decision is very close to being made regarding Sammy Chelanga's status for the year. I thought it had already been decided that he was not eligible this year, but it looks like the NCAA is taking a look at it. He said they were expecting a decision in the next few days. That would really set the guys up for a great season. We shall see!

Posted: October 12th, 2007, 9:37 pm
by Sly Fox
Nice catch. See it pays to listen to those audio clips.

Early Reports Show...

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 1:28 pm
by PeterParker
McDougal goes for the win and reclaims the CR (22:56) that was eclipsed earlier in the day during the blue race (23:02).

Earliest could find from a post on Letsrun.com:

White & Blue Results here: http://www.gosycamores.com/ViewArticle. ... ID=1279910

White Race Team: http://www.gosycamores.com/pdf5/90111.p ... M_ID=15200

#17 (out of 40) Liberty 24:18 and 2:01:30

*W&M and NC State (regional players) and Notre Dame finish ahead of LU.

White Race Individual: http://www.gosycamores.com/pdf2/90112.p ... M_ID=15200

#1 Josh McD 22:56
#30 Jordan McD 23:49
#43 Jarvis 24:00
#154 Edmonds 24:59
#221 Reed 25:41
#263 Whitlock 27:04



Nice Pic:

http://www.flocasts.org/flotrack/coverage.php?c=105

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Posted: October 13th, 2007, 1:36 pm
by 01LUGrad
Congrats to Josh! That's smoking! :cheerleader

Jordan and Jarvis had great races, too!

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 3:12 pm
by prototype
You guys know you are having the chance to see the best runner in not only Liberty History, but one of the best in the history of college cross country. The guys has never lost an invitational. That's like the basketball team not ever losing a game until the final four - FOUR YEARS IN A ROW.

If you have a chance to see a race - go see him.

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 5:23 pm
by Dan Hibbs
according to coach, if sam had been eligible and run we would have been 5th, putting us ahead of stanford and notre dame who are both ranked in the top 15 in the country

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 7:23 pm
by 01LUGrad
So, Dan...what's the story on Sammy's eligibility? Is there a final word that can be passed on?

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 7:42 pm
by Fumblerooskies
I have a question, which one of the runners may be able to answer. It seems like every year Josh smokes the competition on this course, yet in the Nationals, on the same course, his times seem much slower. Any ideas as to why?

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 9:05 pm
by prototype
I can tell you that last year and i believe the year before it rained and the course was wet. That will affect times.

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 9:21 pm
by Lit Crit
Fumblerooskies wrote:I have a question, which one of the runners may be able to answer. It seems like every year Josh smokes the competition on this course, yet in the Nationals, on the same course, his times seem much slower. Any ideas as to why?
The Nationals course is 10k.

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 10:04 pm
by Fumblerooskies
Thanks Lit Crit...that does make sense. A longer race is going to tax the runners more.

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 10:44 pm
by 01LUGrad
prototype wrote:You guys know you are having the chance to see the best runner in not only Liberty History, but one of the best in the history of college cross country. The guys has never lost an invitational. That's like the basketball team not ever losing a game until the final four - FOUR YEARS IN A ROW.

If you have a chance to see a race - go see him.
I completely disagree. According to "The Sparky's", Josh isn't even the best athlete at LU. Some kid who plays basketball is better. :roll:

McDougal Captures Third Pre-Nationals Title...

Posted: October 13th, 2007, 10:45 pm
by 01LUGrad
Liberty senior Josh McDougal saw his 8K course record shattered just minutes before he toed the starting line, Saturday morning at Pre-Nationals in Terre Haute, Ind. He then proceeded to reclaim the record with a school and Big South-record time of 22:56.4, winning his third-consecutive Pre-Nationals individual crown. On the women’s side, Lady Flame senior Piper Newby shaved nine seconds off her own 6K school record, at the LaVern Gibson Championship Cross Country Course.
http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 2&TeamID=8

Posted: October 14th, 2007, 1:00 pm
by prototype
01LUGrad wrote:
prototype wrote:You guys know you are having the chance to see the best runner in not only Liberty History, but one of the best in the history of college cross country. The guys has never lost an invitational. That's like the basketball team not ever losing a game until the final four - FOUR YEARS IN A ROW.

If you have a chance to see a race - go see him.
I completely disagree. According to "The Sparky's", Josh isn't even the best athlete at LU. Some kid who plays basketball is better. :roll:
Thanks 01LUGrad I forgot to look that up. I should have done more research - my bad. Maybe Josh can win a Sparky this year - are they giving them out to teams other than basketball and football?

Posted: October 14th, 2007, 4:43 pm
by Hold My Own
Josh will have to win the Pre-nationals as many times in a row as our womens basketball team won the BS



wait...thats not possible...guess he'll never win


Hmmmmm....future Gold medal or Sparky? Thats a tough one :lol:

Posted: October 15th, 2007, 12:34 am
by Sly Fox
From the Terre Haute fishwrap:
Great course, perfect weather make for fast times at Pre-Nationals

By Craig Pearson
The Tribune-Star


TERRE HAUTE — Perfect autumn weather and a dry turf at the LaVern Gibson Championship Course on Saturday equated to course records being the norm during Pre-Nationals races.

The presence of the top runners in the NCAA pushing one another certainly didn’t hurt as an individual meet record was set in all four main races.

Josh McDougal of Liberty took his own 8,000-meter record back after it was briefly taken by Lopez Lomong of Northern Arizona in the day’s first race.

Then the 2006 NCAA runner-up, junior Jenny Barringer of Colorado, followed McDougal’s lead to swipe the record set by Susan Kuijken of the Netherlands.
Click Here for Full Story

Posted: October 15th, 2007, 10:25 am
by PAmedic
props to the men on 17th and to the ladies with a very respectable 23rd

Also, CCU represented as well: CCU men were 37th and their ladies 24th.

BSOUTH looking decent on the national scene.

Posted: October 15th, 2007, 6:03 pm
by 01LUGrad
Not to be Johnny Raincloud here, but CCU at 37th place isn't much to write home about. A team consisting of Medic, Super, Smoothie, BJ, and Sly would have placed 4 spots behind them. (There were only 40 teams in the race.) Of course, that is assuming they could all cover the 5 mile course... :medic

Pre-Nats video

Posted: October 16th, 2007, 8:56 pm
by 01LUGrad
McD throws it down in the last 200! The fireworks start at about 8:30 into the video.

How many times can the guy say "Josh McDougal from Liberty!" ?

http://www.flocasts.org/flotrack/covera ... 05&id=5153