A Sea Of Red

time for the medic to open up the wallet! seriously, this looks like a nice facility. from libertyflames.com

http://libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID= ... 80&TeamID=

i have been inside the building and talked to coach pinder and it is a very nice facility.

Im probably going to open a can of worms with this one( ohh well )....but who did the budget for all the "asks"

I see 2 42" TV's and i think great idea....then i see 4 grand....Vizio gets tremendous reviews at are only $1,199 each( and there are 42" off brands cheaper than that im sure). Im wondering if these figures are including labor and such or just the equipment? Even with labor or hanging them on a wall though it seems high.

Then i see all this "office furniture" and Liberty must have had to buy TONS with all the additional offices to LCA and LU.....i guess i think we can get a lot better deal thru someone than the amount they are asking for?


Maybe im just picky i don't know, but the prices asked for seem to be a bit overinflated to me.

What type of sound system are they needing for $2000 bucks?


Plug an iPod into a Bose surround sound and you got something that sounds even better for about a quarter of the price.

Definitely a huge upgrade to our program...better facilites=better recruits. Better recruits=better chance of beating Winthrop and taking the Big South title.

the cheapest bose surround sound system is$2000, if your talking about the full surround sound w/dvd and all

I was talking about the two speaker Bose system. One on one side of the room, another on the other and bam, the best music you've ever heard.

the 321? we have that at our house. it sounds good, but i'm not sure how big of a room there putting it in.
the 321 works pretty good in a decent sized room, but i wouldn't put it in a huge room

Buy two of em. I just think $2000 is crazy. Just like the price for the tv's is.

i thought the furniture looked a little high too. maybe they're being liberal with their numbers so they don't run short

By the way, I wasn't serious about Bose, just saying we could get something nice for less than 2000 bucks.

Prices notwithstanding; I am very glad to see this type of approach to raising dinero.


This approach, along with incorporating the Stanford Model for athletic fundraising by team which is then invested along with the university general endowment by the professional investment team for the university, will be a great thing to see across the spectrum.


I posted this elsewhere, but this is exactly the tactic that the new High Point University President employed (is employing) to raise the capital for all of the campus improvements they have recently undertaking (and they are substantial, $100 Million and aesthetically very nice.)


See thread: http://flamefans.com/forums/viewtopic.p ... +president
(pics disabled, but go here for visual: http://www.highpoint.edu/construction/

My co-worker said that for each building all the way down to the furniture he has a huge notebook that he carries with him and people can donate their money to the school for the specific items/levels of construction. She mentioned that he is very much an attention to details and planning kind of guy but very accessible to the students. Also, remember that High Point is Methodist backed and actually went bankrupt in the 30's and was reconstituted.

I think a similar approach would also work well for the campus improvement and expansion for LU if LU would layout what the grand vision of the campus would look like and create a LibertyU.com--type site. People form an affinity with something they can see and also like to feel a semblance of choice as to exactly what their funds are purchasing. Being able to "buy" a chair, or a sound system, foundation joist or something makes it more personal for the benefactor and gives them a sense of payoff as they can point directly to what their donation "bought" (even if that person can only give a $100 due to their present financial situation.)


If LU can decide what the optimal campus vision layout would look like and spare no expense in the aesthetics, then they could put up an interactive map of the Liberty 20/20 Campus of Tomorrow. Potential donors could zip around the "vision" for the campus and get excited about giving toward these defined goals. (I know I would be willing to part with some dinero if they did something like this in place of only retrofits. And I was even one of those who was irked back in the day when they used to do the $1 plate pass around at convo hoping students who were already overextended would part with even more dinero.)

Create a campus vision that clearly excites the base; something the alumni can see and get on board with as an exciting path toward development...and with all due respect to the new Alumni Religion Center or whatever the name is, that's not exactly what I mean, that is more of a retrofit.


LU has the opportunity to be one of the nicest looking campuses in the state if they would actually incorporate the aesthetics into the overall growth plan. There is no reason why the campus, with the backdrop of the Blue Ridge, can't be a place that people want to walk around and enjoy the aesthetics and a superb layout. (Yes, W&M is 400 years old, quite a jump start on LU, but, even the general public loves to traverse that campus...it is very scenic, serene and collegiate. I hope LU can aspire to something similar in the near future as it expands.)

It definitely looks like a very nice facility. Can only help in recruiting. Barber has stated he wants ALL of our sports to be at the top of the Big South, and he is putting "his" money where his mouth is.

someone told me the link was not working so i am reposting it.

http://libertyflames.com/index.cfm?PID= ... 80&TeamID=

You can always tell someone "you know what, I dont need all $2,000 to go here, if you'd like let's take $800 of it for this" rather than say "I need more, this isnt enough to buy _____"


PS yes you can get a Plasma for $1,999 but PLEASE dont buy a Vizio

I figured they were shooting high, the sound system thing just looked REALLY high to me. That's why I was surprised. It's a great thing they're doing though.

SuperJon wrote:I figured they were shooting high, the sound system thing just looked REALLY high to me.

Well, an iTunes subscription is included in the price.

please tell me this isn't ceramic tile

overall looks great though!

pretty impressive- not sure why I'd want to practice anywhere else if I'm the coach

(the coach who could LIVE in that office, by the looks of it)

The Rock wrote:You can always tell someone "you know what, I dont need all $2,000 to go here, if you'd like let's take $800 of it for this" rather than say "I need more, this isnt enough to buy _____"


PS yes you can get a Plasma for $1,999 but PLEASE dont buy a Vizio

I take it you have had a bad experience because the reviews have seen from consumers and experts have been excellent....But that could have been for LCD and not plasma....they only make a few....Plus SAMS CLUB in lynchburg has 42" LCD on sale right now for $947.00 so even i overestimated.

normally when i'm shopping for a good tv, sams club isn't the first place i look. if i want a cheap one, maybe. i'm not saying that all there stuff isn't good, but if you want something thats high quality and will last along time, you get what you pay for

just hold out, if you wait long enough you'll find the TV you want at the price you want. I paid $999 for a 42 inch Panasonic.

i'm not looking. i was pointing out the fact that you shouldn't base tv prices on sams club, because they probably want something of higher quality

PAmedic wrote:please tell me this isn't ceramic tile

no it is not ceramic tile. it is a volleyball playing surface that is somewhat plastic and rubbery.

it's the same floors I saw on TV when I was watching the national championship