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By Purple Haize
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#523342
thepostman wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
thepostman wrote:Wait. You're sticking up for this guy now too?
Who me? Have you not read my earlier posts?
I havever. That's why I'm confused.
My point was this guy had raised a lot of money for Baylor and they still ran him out which isn't a good omen
The knee comment was for TDRed (which is sort of a cool rapper name)
By thepostman
#523343
Gotcha. Yeah and they also said he admitted to not reporting the sexual assault. Are they lying? Why would they lie.
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By VAGolf
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#523348
I really have tried to see the positive in this hire. I spent time trying to justify attending games and continuing the support the athletic department but I can't do this anymore. This hire doesn't reflect my feelings toward the academic department...it would be a shame to put this on them when the hire is for an athletic director.

However, I will no longer support our athletic programs. This is more than just reckless on Falwell's part, this is borderline (keyword) idolatry. We are now telling students that our athletic department will always take precedence...even if that means setting aside physical well-being. I used to long for Liberty to move to FBS, and gain national attention in sports. Now, I hope we don't receive an invite to a larger conference. I don't want the kind of attention Baylor has garnered over the past year.

With that said, I'll continue to follow the programs and hangout on FlamesFans but I will not be attending any more games until this situation is rectified.
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By BJWilliams
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thepostman wrote:Gotcha. Yeah and they also said he admitted to not reporting the sexual assault. Are they lying? Why would they lie.
Are they lying? I don't know.

Why would they? I say this as someone who was a writer for four years as well as wrote for the Champion as an undergrad...but sometimes writers will do what it takes to get the story first, instead of get the story right, so as to drive eyeballs to the print edition and clicks to the website. The writer may be 100% right here we shall see as this story bears itself out.

Anyway...I'm not a big fan of this hire given the previous circumstamces, but I'm at least more willing to a) give Mr McCaw the benefit of the doubt
... at least initially. None of us knows his heart condition or what he's done in the days and months since he was dismissed from Waco probably in disgrace. He may be a changed man from this process and want to do things the right way this time. He still will (and should) face the consequences of his actions (or rather inactions) at Baylor, but b) I will continue wearing my red, hopefully get back to Lynchburg for athletic events and support the athletics program.

I may get excoriated by many on this board for that position, but it's my position and I will own it til the day I did because I will always have the name Liberty University on the most valuable piece of paper in my life...my bachelor's degree. Those of you who are ashamed of the school can send your diplomas back if you are so inclined to do so and if you do, I will disagree with your position, but respect your willingness to take that position.
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By thepostman
#523350
I hope people stop attending all athletic events at liberty. It's disgusting.

Maybe I am more emotionally invested in this because of the hell sexual assault has been to my sister but I firmly believe that because people like Jerry Jr have overlooked it for so long it will continue.

I don't buy the conspiracy theories of some but to try to paint this as anything other than a horrible hire is simply being out of touch
By thepostman
#523351
BJWilliams wrote:
thepostman wrote:Gotcha. Yeah and they also said he admitted to not reporting the sexual assault. Are they lying? Why would they lie.
Are they lying? I don't know.

Why would they? I say this as someone who was a writer for four years as well as wrote for the Champion as an undergrad...but sometimes writers will do what it takes to get the story first, instead of get the story right, so as to drive eyeballs to the print edition and clicks to the website. The writer may be 100% right here we shall see as this story bears itself out.

Anyway...I'm not a big fan of this hire given the previous circumstamces, but I'm at least more willing to a) give Mr McCaw the benefit of the doubt
... at least initially. None of us knows his heart condition or what he's done in the days and months since he was dismissed from Waco probably in disgrace. He may be a changed man from this process and want to do things the right way this time. He still will (and should) face the consequences of his actions (or rather inactions) at Baylor, but b) I will continue wearing my red, hopefully get back to Lynchburg for athletic events and support the athletics program.

I may get excoriated by many on this board for that position, but it's my position and I will own it til the day I did because I will always have the name Liberty University on the most valuable piece of paper in my life...my bachelor's degree. Those of you who are ashamed of the school can send your diplomas back if you are so inclined to do so and if you do, I will disagree with your position, but respect your willingness to take that position.
I'm not shocked by this response. That's all I have.
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By prototype
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#523353
No wonder Liberty wanted to take their name off this site. It's not Jerry, Jr or this new AD that is giving Liberty a bad name - it's all of you judgmental hypocrites. Many on the board act like you know these guys personally and clearly know every situation in their lives to defame, slander and ridicule them, when most have never even had a single conversation with either. I get it - you don't agree with everything Jerry, Jr. does... You all have been personally burned by Jerry, Jr. and Mr. McCaw... Truth is - you have chosen to jump on board with what the Media is telling you, what you have heard happened, or maybe had some situation where Jerry fired you and it feels better to believe that it was personal and not just a business decision.

You might not like Jerry, Jr, but you have to respect the man for building a University that produces many GREAT people that will go in their adulthood better than they came in. God has used Jerry, Jr. and the Falwell's to get Liberty where it is today and God doesn't make mistakes - if Jerry, Jr. wasn't the right person - he wouldn't be leading Liberty.

You guys jumped on Jerry, Jr. for his support of Trump, like he was supporting Hitler - then come to find out that Jerry, Jr. was supporting the very person that a majority of the Nation voted for, outside the Liberal, heavy non-believer rich big cities. He didn't tell students who to vote for, he didn't throw out a Liberty endorsement, and he even brought in candidates from all sides to speak at convo to let students make up their own minds.

Now you are all ripping a man that you don't even know, because you have convinced yourself that he must somehow support rape... “How are women going to support us now?” That's a bunch of BS. Baylor is a good school, who had some bad apples on their Football team - players are responsible for their OWN actions, and coaches and AD’s can’t be responsible to know what thousands of athletes are doing 24 hours a day, outside of their practice and game times. Baylor spits out some VERY good students. How do I know? - I own a business in Dallas too and see their fruit. I called this the other day - Jerry, Jr. was going to find someone that either came from a FBS conference or a school that plays in a FBS conference, and is familiar with what we are up against, like Notre Dame. Well, guess what - we have someone from a large Baptist University that has been there. I'm not going to Judge this guy because the Media has told me he's a bad guy, and quite frankly I’m sick of hearing how awful Jerry. Jr. is. Liberty would not be where it is today without him – period.

I was almost going to spend the time to look up old post from a few years ago, when everyone was praising him for opening his home to freshman for start of the year carnivals, taking away dress codes and showing such a strong support for athletics by building facilities and spending money on good coaching, but then thought – not worth the time, because so many people on here don’t remember, or have any idea, as to where Liberty came from, but only want to judge leadership and even think they could do a better job, when you couldn’t and wouldn’t.

Jerry, Jr. – You are doing a great job. I know your job stinks many days, but I will continue to pray that God will guide you in all your decisions. And welcome aboard Mr. McCaw – I look forward to seeing how you can build upon the great foundation that Jeff Barber has left you. Hopefully you can help pull our fan base together and help us reach that goal that Jerry, Sr. set many years ago.
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By BJWilliams
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#523354
prototype wrote:No wonder Liberty wanted to take their name off this site. It's not Jerry, Jr or this new AD that is giving Liberty a bad name - it's all of you judgmental hypocrites. Many on the board act like you know these guys personally and clearly know every situation in their lives to defame, slander and ridicule them, when most have never even had a single conversation with either. I get it - you don't agree with everything Jerry, Jr. does... You all have been personally burned by Jerry, Jr. and Mr. McCaw... Truth is - you have chosen to jump on board with what the Media is telling you, what you have heard happened, or maybe had some situation where Jerry fired you and it feels better to believe that it was personal and not just a business decision.

You might not like Jerry, Jr, but you have to respect the man for building a University that produces many GREAT people that will go in their adulthood better than they came in. God has used Jerry, Jr. and the Falwell's to get Liberty where it is today and God doesn't make mistakes - if Jerry, Jr. wasn't the right person - he wouldn't be leading Liberty.

You guys jumped on Jerry, Jr. for his support of Trump, like he was supporting Hitler - then come to find out that Jerry, Jr. was supporting the very person that a majority of the Nation voted for, outside the Liberal, heavy non-believer rich big cities. He didn't tell students who to vote for, he didn't throw out a Liberty endorsement, and he even brought in candidates from all sides to speak at convo to let students make up their own minds.

Now you are all ripping a man that you don't even know, because you have convinced yourself that he must somehow support rape... “How are women going to support us now?” That's a bunch of BS. Baylor is a good school, who had some bad apples on their Football team - players are responsible for their OWN actions, and coaches and AD’s can’t be responsible to know what thousands of athletes are doing 24 hours a day, outside of their practice and game times. Baylor spits out some VERY good students. How do I know? - I own a business in Dallas too and see their fruit. I called this the other day - Jerry, Jr. was going to find someone that either came from a FBS conference or a school that plays in a FBS conference, and is familiar with what we are up against, like Notre Dame. Well, guess what - we have someone from a large Baptist University that has been there. I'm not going to Judge this guy because the Media has told me he's a bad guy, and quite frankly I’m sick of hearing how awful Jerry. Jr. is. Liberty would not be where it is today without him – period.

I was almost going to spend the time to look up old post from a few years ago, when everyone was praising him for opening his home to freshman for start of the year carnivals, taking away dress codes and showing such a strong support for athletics by building facilities and spending money on good coaching, but then thought – not worth the time, because so many people on here don’t remember, or have any idea, as to where Liberty came from, but only want to judge leadership and even think they could do a better job, when you couldn’t and wouldn’t.

Jerry, Jr. – You are doing a great job. I know your job stinks many days, but I will continue to pray that God will guide you in all your decisions. And welcome aboard Mr. McCaw – I look forward to seeing how you can build upon the great foundation that Jeff Barber has left you. Hopefully you can help pull our fan base together and help us reach that goal that Jerry, Sr. set many years ago.
Well said proto...again, I'm not a fan of the hire but well said
By JK37
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#523355
“There’s a big stack of regulations that the Department of Education created,” Falwell said, “… and in the last several years, we’ve gone to great pains to make sure we’ve complied to the letter of those recommendations.”

The beginning of the quote smacks of systemic disdain for the regulations he is discussing. Just seems like a poor choice of words.
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By Jonathan Carone
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#523357
JK37 wrote:“There’s a big stack of regulations that the Department of Education created,” Falwell said, “… and in the last several years, we’ve gone to great pains to make sure we’ve complied to the letter of those recommendations.”

The beginning of the quote smacks of systemic disdain for the regulations he is discussing. Just seems like a poor choice of words.
We already know the Trump admin is going to try to get rid of some of the Title IX regulations.
By thepostman
#523359
prototype wrote:No wonder Liberty wanted to take their name off this site. It's not Jerry, Jr or this new AD that is giving Liberty a bad name - it's all of you judgmental hypocrites. Many on the board act like you know these guys personally and clearly know every situation in their lives to defame, slander and ridicule them, when most have never even had a single conversation with either. I get it - you don't agree with everything Jerry, Jr. does... You all have been personally burned by Jerry, Jr. and Mr. McCaw... Truth is - you have chosen to jump on board with what the Media is telling you, what you have heard happened, or maybe had some situation where Jerry fired you and it feels better to believe that it was personal and not just a business decision.

You might not like Jerry, Jr, but you have to respect the man for building a University that produces many GREAT people that will go in their adulthood better than they came in. God has used Jerry, Jr. and the Falwell's to get Liberty where it is today and God doesn't make mistakes - if Jerry, Jr. wasn't the right person - he wouldn't be leading Liberty.

You guys jumped on Jerry, Jr. for his support of Trump, like he was supporting Hitler - then come to find out that Jerry, Jr. was supporting the very person that a majority of the Nation voted for, outside the Liberal, heavy non-believer rich big cities. He didn't tell students who to vote for, he didn't throw out a Liberty endorsement, and he even brought in candidates from all sides to speak at convo to let students make up their own minds.

Now you are all ripping a man that you don't even know, because you have convinced yourself that he must somehow support rape... “How are women going to support us now?” That's a bunch of BS. Baylor is a good school, who had some bad apples on their Football team - players are responsible for their OWN actions, and coaches and AD’s can’t be responsible to know what thousands of athletes are doing 24 hours a day, outside of their practice and game times. Baylor spits out some VERY good students. How do I know? - I own a business in Dallas too and see their fruit. I called this the other day - Jerry, Jr. was going to find someone that either came from a FBS conference or a school that plays in a FBS conference, and is familiar with what we are up against, like Notre Dame. Well, guess what - we have someone from a large Baptist University that has been there. I'm not going to Judge this guy because the Media has told me he's a bad guy, and quite frankly I’m sick of hearing how awful Jerry. Jr. is. Liberty would not be where it is today without him – period.

I was almost going to spend the time to look up old post from a few years ago, when everyone was praising him for opening his home to freshman for start of the year carnivals, taking away dress codes and showing such a strong support for athletics by building facilities and spending money on good coaching, but then thought – not worth the time, because so many people on here don’t remember, or have any idea, as to where Liberty came from, but only want to judge leadership and even think they could do a better job, when you couldn’t and wouldn’t.

Jerry, Jr. – You are doing a great job. I know your job stinks many days, but I will continue to pray that God will guide you in all your decisions. And welcome aboard Mr. McCaw – I look forward to seeing how you can build upon the great foundation that Jeff Barber has left you. Hopefully you can help pull our fan base together and help us reach that goal that Jerry, Sr. set many years ago.
So if an LU rival would have made the same exact hire you wouldn't be critical at all of it?

I praise Jr all the time but the past year he has made a string of decisions that have put the University I loved in questionable light. He silences anybody who disagrees and has surrounded himself with yes men.

I am so grateful for the things he has done to help grow our University but that doesn't give him a pass on bad decisions.

If this guy had been cleared of all charges before Liberty hired him I wouldn't be nearly as critical as I have been. You can't expect to maintain good disciple within the athletic department when the man that is hired to lead the department is still under investigation.

It's a bad look and to paint people like me who disagree with the hire as hypocrites is just a tactic to shut people up.

Sexual assault will always be a serious issue to me. It had singlehandedly screwed my sisters life up. This is why I am so passionate about it and I will not apologize to you or to anybody else for taking a stand against it.
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By TH Spangler
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#523361
prototype wrote:No wonder Liberty wanted to take their name off this site. It's not Jerry, Jr or this new AD that is giving Liberty a bad name - it's all of you judgmental hypocrites. Many on the board act like you know these guys personally and clearly know every situation in their lives to defame, slander and ridicule them, when most have never even had a single conversation with either. I get it - you don't agree with everything Jerry, Jr. does... You all have been personally burned by Jerry, Jr. and Mr. McCaw... Truth is - you have chosen to jump on board with what the Media is telling you, what you have heard happened, or maybe had some situation where Jerry fired you and it feels better to believe that it was personal and not just a business decision.

You might not like Jerry, Jr, but you have to respect the man for building a University that produces many GREAT people that will go in their adulthood better than they came in. God has used Jerry, Jr. and the Falwell's to get Liberty where it is today and God doesn't make mistakes - if Jerry, Jr. wasn't the right person - he wouldn't be leading Liberty.

You guys jumped on Jerry, Jr. for his support of Trump, like he was supporting Hitler - then come to find out that Jerry, Jr. was supporting the very person that a majority of the Nation voted for, outside the Liberal, heavy non-believer rich big cities. He didn't tell students who to vote for, he didn't throw out a Liberty endorsement, and he even brought in candidates from all sides to speak at convo to let students make up their own minds.

Now you are all ripping a man that you don't even know, because you have convinced yourself that he must somehow support rape... “How are women going to support us now?” That's a bunch of BS. Baylor is a good school, who had some bad apples on their Football team - players are responsible for their OWN actions, and coaches and AD’s can’t be responsible to know what thousands of athletes are doing 24 hours a day, outside of their practice and game times. Baylor spits out some VERY good students. How do I know? - I own a business in Dallas too and see their fruit. I called this the other day - Jerry, Jr. was going to find someone that either came from a FBS conference or a school that plays in a FBS conference, and is familiar with what we are up against, like Notre Dame. Well, guess what - we have someone from a large Baptist University that has been there. I'm not going to Judge this guy because the Media has told me he's a bad guy, and quite frankly I’m sick of hearing how awful Jerry. Jr. is. Liberty would not be where it is today without him – period.

I was almost going to spend the time to look up old post from a few years ago, when everyone was praising him for opening his home to freshman for start of the year carnivals, taking away dress codes and showing such a strong support for athletics by building facilities and spending money on good coaching, but then thought – not worth the time, because so many people on here don’t remember, or have any idea, as to where Liberty came from, but only want to judge leadership and even think they could do a better job, when you couldn’t and wouldn’t.

Jerry, Jr. – You are doing a great job. I know your job stinks many days, but I will continue to pray that God will guide you in all your decisions. And welcome aboard Mr. McCaw – I look forward to seeing how you can build upon the great foundation that Jeff Barber has left you. Hopefully you can help pull our fan base together and help us reach that goal that Jerry, Sr. set many years ago.

Forget about Liberty. Attaching your personal reputation to your AD position at any school in today's culture is frightening.

Here's 118 pages of why? 18 year olds :dontgetit ..... http://arrestnation.com/tag/college-football/
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By Jonathan Carone
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BuryYourDuke wrote:
Jonathan Carone wrote:
JK37 wrote:“There’s a big stack of regulations that the Department of Education created,” Falwell said, “… and in the last several years, we’ve gone to great pains to make sure we’ve complied to the letter of those recommendations.”

The beginning of the quote smacks of systemic disdain for the regulations he is discussing. Just seems like a poor choice of words.
We already know the Trump admin is going to try to get rid of some of the Title IX regulations.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I was just speaking to his disdain of the rules.
By Yacht Rock
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#523363
The point those of you that will blindly support Jerry are missing is that this dude knew about a rape and chose not to report it. That shows a HUGE lack of judgement at the very least.

This isn't about "I don't like Jerry so I won't support this..."

This is, "This hire helped create an atmosphere where sexual assault goes unreported."

That's a big deal. Very big deal. At the very least he needs to address that to Liberty students, alums, fans, and staff.

And Proto, stop saying that people don't like Jerry because of what they read in the media or because they were fired. There are plenty of folks that base their opinion of him (including myself) on personal interactions as a member of the community.
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By Purple Haize
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#523369
BJWilliams wrote:
prototype wrote:No wonder Liberty wanted to take their name off this site. It's not Jerry, Jr or this new AD that is giving Liberty a bad name - it's all of you judgmental hypocrites. Many on the board act like you know these guys personally and clearly know every situation in their lives to defame, slander and ridicule them, when most have never even had a single conversation with either. I get it - you don't agree with everything Jerry, Jr. does... You all have been personally burned by Jerry, Jr. and Mr. McCaw... Truth is - you have chosen to jump on board with what the Media is telling you, what you have heard happened, or maybe had some situation where Jerry fired you and it feels better to believe that it was personal and not just a business decision.

You might not like Jerry, Jr, but you have to respect the man for building a University that produces many GREAT people that will go in their adulthood better than they came in. God has used Jerry, Jr. and the Falwell's to get Liberty where it is today and God doesn't make mistakes - if Jerry, Jr. wasn't the right person - he wouldn't be leading Liberty.

You guys jumped on Jerry, Jr. for his support of Trump, like he was supporting Hitler - then come to find out that Jerry, Jr. was supporting the very person that a majority of the Nation voted for, outside the Liberal, heavy non-believer rich big cities. He didn't tell students who to vote for, he didn't throw out a Liberty endorsement, and he even brought in candidates from all sides to speak at convo to let students make up their own minds.

Now you are all ripping a man that you don't even know, because you have convinced yourself that he must somehow support rape... “How are women going to support us now?” That's a bunch of BS. Baylor is a good school, who had some bad apples on their Football team - players are responsible for their OWN actions, and coaches and AD’s can’t be responsible to know what thousands of athletes are doing 24 hours a day, outside of their practice and game times. Baylor spits out some VERY good students. How do I know? - I own a business in Dallas too and see their fruit. I called this the other day - Jerry, Jr. was going to find someone that either came from a FBS conference or a school that plays in a FBS conference, and is familiar with what we are up against, like Notre Dame. Well, guess what - we have someone from a large Baptist University that has been there. I'm not going to Judge this guy because the Media has told me he's a bad guy, and quite frankly I’m sick of hearing how awful Jerry. Jr. is. Liberty would not be where it is today without him – period.

I was almost going to spend the time to look up old post from a few years ago, when everyone was praising him for opening his home to freshman for start of the year carnivals, taking away dress codes and showing such a strong support for athletics by building facilities and spending money on good coaching, but then thought – not worth the time, because so many people on here don’t remember, or have any idea, as to where Liberty came from, but only want to judge leadership and even think they could do a better job, when you couldn’t and wouldn’t.

Jerry, Jr. – You are doing a great job. I know your job stinks many days, but I will continue to pray that God will guide you in all your decisions. And welcome aboard Mr. McCaw – I look forward to seeing how you can build upon the great foundation that Jeff Barber has left you. Hopefully you can help pull our fan base together and help us reach that goal that Jerry, Sr. set many years ago.
Well said proto...again, I'm not a fan of the hire but well said
I would expect nothing less from either of you.
The Trump Endorsement you can at least justify by saying it was personal as opposed to University. Not everyone was fine with it. I at least understood the game
When was the last time he had Frosh over? It was great, at the time.
I'm sorry, are you still under the impression that Baylor clings to their Baptist roots?
You just compared LU to Norte Dame. :roll:
Having someone in leadership who knew about at least 5 rapes and did the bare minimum and calling that acceptable is crazy. Why is it acceptable for LU when it wasn't for Baylor? And if you want to throw Title IX crap into the mix, the next question is:who should have made sure those mechanisms were in place?
By ballcoach15
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#523371
If Jerry jr. hired Nick Saban away from Alabama to come to LU, some people would complain. In my opinion within the past 16 years that I have been following LU closely, only one bad hire has been made, and that was in Men's basketball .
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By Purple Haize
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#523372
ballcoach15 wrote:If Jerry jr. hired Nick Saban away from Alabama to come to LU, some people would complain. In my opinion within the past 16 years that I have been following LU closely, only one bad hire has been made, and that was in Men's basketball .
There's the hyperbole we've come to know and love.

I'd only have a problem with it if he brought Lane Kiffin
By thepostman
#523375
ballcoach15 wrote:If Jerry jr. hired Nick Saban away from Alabama to come to LU, some people would complain. In my opinion within the past 16 years that I have been following LU closely, only one bad hire has been made, and that was in Men's basketball .
Saban, to my knowledge, hasn't covered up sexual assault. Completely different.
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By Jonathan Carone
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#523376
Here's another thing that must be considered:

Ian McCaw by all accounts is a great man. The statements from his coaches and colleagues are all you need to confirm that.

The disdain towards this hire is not about Ian McCaw the man, Ian McCaw the husband, Ian McCaw the Christian, or anything Ian McCaw personally. The disdain is towards Ian McCaw the Athletic Director who, while overseeing an incredible growth and success of the Baylor athletic department, at best had a massive blind spot towards sexual assault and at worst helped to cover it up. Those investigations are still going on and he has not been fully cleared of any wrong doing. We learned our lesson with Asa to wait until the unbiased legal proceedings are finished before making a decision. Had we kept Mickey as the interim for another semester and McCaw was cleared legally in that time, I would have absolutely no issues with this hire.
By thepostman
#523377
Jonathan Carone wrote:Here's another thing that must be considered:

Ian McCaw by all accounts is a great man. The statements from his coaches and colleagues are all you need to confirm that.

The disdain towards this hire is not about Ian McCaw the man, Ian McCaw the husband, Ian McCaw the Christian, or anything Ian McCaw personally. The disdain is towards Ian McCaw the Athletic Director who, while overseeing an incredible growth and success of the Baylor athletic department, at best had a massive blind spot towards sexual assault and at worst helped to cover it up. Those investigations are still going on and he has not been fully cleared of any wrong doing. We learned our lesson with Asa to wait until the unbiased legal proceedings are finished before making a decision. Had we kept Mickey as the interim for another semester and McCaw was cleared legally in that time, I would have absolutely no issues with this hire.
Agree completely with this.
By flamehunter
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#523379
Jonathan Carone wrote:Here's another thing that must be considered:

Ian McCaw by all accounts is a great man. The statements from his coaches and colleagues are all you need to confirm that.

The disdain towards this hire is not about Ian McCaw the man, Ian McCaw the husband, Ian McCaw the Christian, or anything Ian McCaw personally. The disdain is towards Ian McCaw the Athletic Director who, while overseeing an incredible growth and success of the Baylor athletic department, at best had a massive blind spot towards sexual assault and at worst helped to cover it up. Those investigations are still going on and he has not been fully cleared of any wrong doing. We learned our lesson with Asa to wait until the unbiased legal proceedings are finished before making a decision. Had we kept Mickey as the interim for another semester and McCaw was cleared legally in that time, I would have absolutely no issues with this hire.
You nailed it.
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