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By LUAlum1215
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BJWilliams wrote:He certainly has risen through the ranks quickly...and proven himself to be very competitive at every level from the K&N Series all the way up to where he is now in contention for the Xfinity Series title. With Hendrick backing him, I would not be surprised to see him becoming competitive very quickly in the Cup series


HMS always has solid equipment no doubt, but they've historically had problems maintaining 4 solid performing teams over the course of the season. Since the Chase/Playoffs were created in 2004, HMS has only put all four teams in the playoffs 3 times (12-14). In 2013, NASCAR put the 24 in the Chase as a rule change because of an on track issue at Richmond that cost him points needed to qualify for the playoffs. Even the years prior to the Chase in 2004, they never had 4 solid teams. 24/48 were usually good but the 5 was hit or miss and at the time 25 struggled.

I say that to say this- obviously I hope WB does well along with the rest of the camp. But their history paired with 2 brand new drivers in the building and 1 who has yet to win may come with some growing pains. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes him a year or two to win but he will certainly be capable of doing it sooner.
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By LUAlum1215
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oldflame wrote:For the record, while it is certainly still a huge chunk of change, the going rate for sponsorship of a cup team is quite a bit less than it was just a few years ago. The money is just not out there like it used to be. There will likely be teams trying to compete next year with as little as 10 mil. Of course they are not Hendrick Motorsports teams, but with a young driver who will work relatively "cheap", I think it's safe to say the budget for the 5 car will be a good bit less than last year.


Agreed. Sponsors are paying less money but also getting fewer races on the cars. There's really no way to know, publicly, what a race costs to sponsor but it's definitely less than in recent years. As Dale Jr said last week, the cost to operate the team has gone up so that money has to come from somewhere which is why young guys are getting better rides over proven vets- they cost less.
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By LUAlum1215
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Purple Haize wrote:I'm actually surprised LU isn't a BIGGER sponsor


Typical sponsors are trying to sell their product. The same can be said for LU but it's more of a recruitment tool for prospective students. Each branch of the military used to sponsor a car at one point in time or another. The most recent was the Ntional Guard sponsoring Dale Jr. They decided to leave for a lot of reasons but cited the fact that for the years they sponsored the car (7 years I believe) they did not have a single person who actually joined that cited the sponsorship of the team or any involvement in motor sports as having any impact on their decision to join. Several organizations have sponsored teams as recruitment strategies but with little success. Doesn't seem to be the case with Liberty.
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By Class of 20Something
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LUAlum1215 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I'm actually surprised LU isn't a BIGGER sponsor


Typical sponsors are trying to sell their product. The same can be said for LU but it's more of a recruitment tool for prospective students. Each branch of the military used to sponsor a car at one point in time or another. The most recent was the Ntional Guard sponsoring Dale Jr. They decided to leave for a lot of reasons but cited the fact that for the years they sponsored the car (7 years I believe) they did not have a single person who actually joined that cited the sponsorship of the team or any involvement in motor sports as having any impact on their decision to join. Several organizations have sponsored teams as recruitment strategies but with little success. Doesn't seem to be the case with Liberty.


Liberty is fighting for brand recognition right now. I think it might be a more subtle angle.
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By Purple Haize
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Class of 20Something wrote:
LUAlum1215 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I'm actually surprised LU isn't a BIGGER sponsor


Typical sponsors are trying to sell their product. The same can be said for LU but it's more of a recruitment tool for prospective students. Each branch of the military used to sponsor a car at one point in time or another. The most recent was the Ntional Guard sponsoring Dale Jr. They decided to leave for a lot of reasons but cited the fact that for the years they sponsored the car (7 years I believe) they did not have a single person who actually joined that cited the sponsorship of the team or any involvement in motor sports as having any impact on their decision to join. Several organizations have sponsored teams as recruitment strategies but with little success. Doesn't seem to be the case with Liberty.


Liberty is fighting for brand recognition right now. I think it might be a more subtle angle.


This. Liberty can get in front of a whole lot of eyeballs for about what they pay for Football. You might make the argument a better ROI
By ballcoach15
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ballcoach15 wrote:Kahane should be out of #5 car. A wasted seat in my opinion. With Hendricks' connection to LU, I think there's a good chance for Byron to get a Cup ride. Be good PR for LU to sponsor a Cup car, even as an associate sponsor.



I had planned to scale back following NASCAR after Earnhardt's final Talladega race in October. Now with Byron getting the 5 car, I will stick around.

I predict he will win a race in 2018.
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By Class of 20Something
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ballcoach15 wrote:Kahane should be out of #5 car. A wasted seat in my opinion. With Hendricks' connection to LU, I think there's a good chance for Byron to get a Cup ride. Be good PR for LU to sponsor a Cup car, even as an associate sponsor.


26 April 2017.

Bravo BC15. Correct on all counts.